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Oct 16, 2026

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Episodes

Bitcoin and Beyond EP7: Zero Trust Protocols with dWallet Network 12.06.2024

We're sure you've heard of zero knowledge proofs through our various pieces with industry leaders, but have you heard of zero trust protocols? From what we understand, its a newly coined term to describe the multi party computation tech utilized by the dWallet team. In today's presentation, we take a closer look at the evolution from the "castle and moat" model to zero trust....

Bitcoin and Beyond EP6: How Stacks Is Scaling Bitcoin with Muneeb Ali 11.06.2024

No one better to discuss the bull case for Bitcoin L2s than long-time Bitcoin advocate and Stacks founder, Muneeb Ali. In today's video, we explore the competitive landscape of Bitcoin L2s, highlighting Stacks’ first-mover advantage and why Muneeb is extremely bullish on Bitcoin scaling primitives. We discuss the initial use cases for Bitcoin as collateral for yield generation, Bitcoin as a pa...

Bitcoin and Beyond EP5: BitVM, OPCAT, and The Evolution of Bitcoin 10.06.2024

The Bitcoin ecosystem is leapfrogging the development trajectory put forth by the Ethereum community Today's piece focuses on how potential upgrades to the Bitcoin technologies like BitVM and OPCAT are opening up fresh possibilities for utilizing Bitcoin. Bitcoin has often been viewed as "conservative", but recent advancements suggest it could leapfrog over previous limitations, lear...

Bitcoin and Beyond EP4: CoreDAO's Native Bitcoin Staking Architecture 07.06.2024

Welcome to episode 4 of Bitcoin and Beyond. We all know Bitcoin as the original Proof of Work chain, so how does staking come into play? In today's episode we explore CoreDAO's consensus mechanism, staking offering, and technical bridging architecture. CoreDAO is aiming to separate Bitcoin’s asset value from its transactional rails, enabling higher throughput and lower cost ecosystems. Thi...

Bitcoin and Beyond EP3: Molecule is Bringing SVM To Bitcoin Scaling 06.06.2024

One of the best parts about our modular thesis is that it also applies to Bitcoin. We are seeing the same ideas of bringing next-gen VMs to Bitcoin scaling in the same way that we see with with Ethereum rollups. Notably, the tech hurdles to actually get an SVM rollup on bitcoin is much harder. Today we are specifically focusing on integrating the Solana Virtual Machine (SVM) onto Bitcoin. This ide...

Bitcoin and Beyond EP2: Build on Bitcoin's Hybrid Rollup Architecture 05.06.2024

The trajectory to achieving a "full rollup" on Bitcoin is a gradual process, similar to that of Ethereum rollups gradually implementing fraud proofs/zk technology. Build on Bitcoin (BoB) has taken the approach of building a product (on mainnet now) which resembles more of an hybrid optimistic rollup between Ethereum and Bitcoin L2. They have been quick to market and have built a strong c...

Bitcoin and Beyond EP1: Citrea's ZK Technical Design Explained 04.06.2024

Welcome to the first episode of our Bitcoin and Beyond presentation series. We aim to provide you with technical knowledge about the state of different Bitcoin scaling solutions. Are they sidechains? L2s? True rollups? For the first episode, we're diving into Citrea, a project focused on bringing ZK to Bitcoin with a true rollup design (using Bitcoin for data availability). We sat down with Or...

The Future of Modular Execution Layers 30.05.2024

If you've been following along for sometime, you've likely heard of Fluent as part of our Modular March campaign or in a previous episode. We first met Dino last year, early on in the development of their zkWasm L2, powered by a web assembly virtual machine (for execution). This has long been a part of our modular thesis, so naturally we were extremely interested in their newly launched &q...

Does the integrated thesis have legs? 29.05.2024

We are huge proponents of the modular thesis as our entire brand is centered around this. We often challenge ideas which we have a shared thesis with as part of the channel, as well as welcome new ideas to the the mix. In today's video we got the chance to understand the idea behind the integrated thesis with Movement Labs and Omni have been pushing forward. While we did spend some times talki...

Introducing Forma: Celestia's Culture Hub 28.05.2024

The modular ecosystem is still in its infancy stages. We are at the cusp of an acceleration of sovereign rollups built with Celestia underneath. This idea, while new to many, has been at the root of Celestia's roadmap since inception. In today's video we take you through everything you need to know about sovereign rollups, with a focus on Forma. We discuss how Forma has been carefully desi...

Programmable IP in the Age of AI 17.05.2024

The core properties of blockchains (immutability, transparency, trustlessness) are extremely well suited for intellectual property. Intellectual property is defined as: "A category of property that includes intangible creations of the human intellect." In today's episode, we talk with Jason Zhao, founder of Story Protocol. Story Protocol is bringing in a new way IP marketplaces are c...

What is a declarative blockchain? 16.05.2024

Blockchains, as we know them today, are imperative. This means, we interact with every application needed to achieve a certain outcome onchain…we care about the process in achieving a specified end result. The intent-centric future aims to flip this model on its head and usher in a different way of building and interacting with decentralized systems. At the heart of this shift is the evolution fro...

Where RiscZero Fits in The Modular Thesis 15.05.2024

We believe in a future of verifiable computation. The modular future cannot exist without zk. After last weeks video asking "Will ZK eat the modular stack?" and realizing its all but guaranteed, we have set out to learn more about how zkVMs and ZK will make an impact. Our focus today centers on how RiscZero utilizes zk proofs and how zkVM works. At the core of RiscZero's mission is t...

The VC Investment Thesis for Modularity 14.05.2024

VCs have been getting a lot of hate recently. The era of high FDV, low float launches may be coming to an end soon...or will it? In today's conversation we sat down with Mads Mathiesen, a long-time crypto researcher and now leading research for an elite crypto VC Maven11. He was writing about data availability and Celestia in 2019-2020, before anyone was really paying attention to modularity....

Modular Execution & VM Landscape 2024 10.05.2024

A big part of our modular thesis this year is the need for extremely high TPS blockchains which create a far better user experience, as well as a better dev experience. You may have heard the terms "altVMs or next-gen VMs" come up on X or in other videos of ours when referring to building L2s/rollups not using EVM. This brings us to the heart of today's discussion with Robert Sasu, a...

Will zk eat the modular stack? 09.05.2024

Will zk eat the modular stack? Isn’t zk an enhancer for the stack as a whole? Which parts of the stack will be disrupted by zk, and how? Today, we're diving into a thought-provoking interview with Hannes from Equilibrium Labs to get all the answers . Equilibrium Labs specializes in low-level protocol engineering, helping protocols become safer, faster, and more usable. The core idea of "W...

The Evolution of Crypto Incentives 08.05.2024

One of our core beliefs is the acceleration of experimentation in crypto. We believe that continuously testing novel incentive designs will lead to better results in the future. That being said, not every mechanism is going to work. Today, we set out to understand what will work in a sustainable way going forward from the perspective of Jordi Alexander. Jordi is the founder of a trading firm Selin...

Where Frax Fits In The Modular Thesis 06.05.2024

The modular thesis is growing week by week. We are seeing the rise of new L2s and appchains happening at a rapidly accelerating pace now. Our second podcast as a team featuring Sam Kazemian from Frax Finance is here. Frax started its journey as a decentralized stablecoin and has expanded significantly to include a broader range of DeFi tools and assets, making their modular L2 more appealing from...

How Celestine Sloths Became The Modular Community Mascot 03.05.2024

LM 💤 🥱 Did you know that Celestia was originally called LazyLedger? The idea behind this laziness stems from Celestia's minimalistic properties. By solely focusing on data availability with minimal smart contracts & execution, Celestia is able to provide cheap and secure data verification while outsourcing execution to other chains. In today's episode, we set out to understand the or...

Horizontal vs Vertical Scaling Debate 01.05.2024

Horizontal or vertical scaling...which way, western man? In today's discussion, we're taking a closer look at Nil's strategic approach to blockchain scalability, focusing on the integration of horizontal scaling for Ethereum. We discuss the core idea behind Ethereum as the ultimate arbiter of truth for L2s, ensuring that any layer that claims to be an L2 can verify its activities throu...

Where Sovereign Labs Fits In The Modular Thesis 29.04.2024

The general idea and thesis we share is that we will see 1000s of appchains and the frameworks which are building for that future are in a good spot. In addition, we also believe there will be a ton of zkVMs (as introduced to us by Cem during this video) which will power rollups going forward. This is also part of our "we don't need any more traditional EVM, general purpose L2s" thes...

Is Ethereum alignment a meme? 26.04.2024

At what point does ideological alignment affect your technological decision making? The essence of Ethereum alignment involves a commitment to its core principles — decentralization, security, permissionlessness, and scalability. This deep-rooted alignment goes beyond the technical, touching on Ethereum’s broader moral compass, which aims to question and redefine the societal and economic impacts...

We Need To Talk About Fraud Proofs with Gabriel Coutinho of Cartesi 25.04.2024

Rollups as we know them today are more centralized than we'd like. Basically, rollups operate using a secure multi-sig and centralized sequencer for transaction batching and ordering. This isn't good for a multitude of reasons, notably censorship resistance. We are trying to build resilient, long-lasting systems in crypto and to do this effectively these systems need to be sufficiently dec...

Safe Token Launch, EIP 3074, and Technical Updates with co-founder Richard Meissner 23.04.2024

Today marks a very special day for many DeFi founders, builders, and power users. Today is the launch of the transferable $SAFE token, for the safe multisig users on Ethereum mainnet. The tokens had to be claimed many months, if not years, ago. Safe has been pioneering the idea of smart accounts and has made many advancements in account abstraction technology. Our discussion with co-founder, Richa...

Celestine Sloths, Alloyed Assets, And Hyperbitcoinization with Sunny Aggarwal 22.04.2024

The evolution of the modular thesis doesn't go without saying Osmosis and the Cosmos ecosystem. Being the hub of liquidity for the modular ecosystem assets (TIA, DYM, OSMO), Osmosis plays an important role for the space. In today's interview with co-founder Sunny Aggarwal, we discuss the recent rise of Celestine Sloths and how features like the Skip API allows for seamless cross-chain tran...

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