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Oct 16, 2026

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Episodes

Why No One Wants To Be A Shared Sequencer Anymore 06.09.2024

A few weeks back, Andy put out a tweet saying "no one wants to be branded as a shared sequencer anymore" and it triggered quite a few people. The "loss of revenue" is the biggest, ongoing misconception of why shared sequencing isn't the best option for rollups. Today were tackling that notion head on with Noah Pravecek from NodeKit and their shift from shared sequencing to...

Is AggLayer The Solution To The Modular Fragmentation Problem? 05.09.2024

In today’s piece, we’re taking a close look at one of the latest innovations in the modular ecosystem: AggLayer, the new interoperability layer stemming from the Polygon team. As Ethereum scaling solutions continue to evolve, AggLayer offers a new approach to making cross-chain interactions smoother, more secure, and more scalable. But, is this the solution we are looking for? Is AggLayer competit...

What Are The Ideological & Product Implications of A Chain Abstracted Future? 04.09.2024

Joins us for a discussion about the Ideological & product implications of a chain abstracted future with: Asad Ahmed from Okto Dave from Particle Network Arjun from Jumper Exchange Griffin Dunaif from Halliday Consensus128 from Lava Network Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www....

How MegaETH enables real-time apps on Ethereum 04.09.2024

One of the core ideas that we shared in this podcast and throughout the NYC sessions was creating more optimizations for Ethereum L2s which currently don't exist today. It feels like we've settled in to the current standards of 2 second block times and a standard of TPS which has been normal. MegaETH is trying to flip this model on its head. Centralized block production via a beefy sequenc...

Are Based Rollups The Solution To Ethereum's Long-Term Value Capture? 03.09.2024

Based rollups are a really interesting design because they offer MEV to the L1 (which acts as the sequencer) rather than accruing the value to the rollup operator. This has been the biggest argument for L2s being parasitic to the L1. We think based rollups change that for the better. The core issue still remains, however: Current rollups likely will not opt-in to based designs because they will lo...

How To Build A Cult-Like Community in Crypto with XION 03.09.2024

This was one of the wildest interviews we've ever done. From the attire of our guest, to the level of entertainment, technical detail, and insights on community building -- this is one of those conversations that has everything. We originally sought out to ask Burnt about his strategies of growing his community (cult), how XION has nailed down collaborations with some of the world's larges...

Where Is The Demand for Data Availability? With EigenDA 02.09.2024

Today, we’re diving into a topic that's crucial for the future of Ethereum and the broader modular ecosystem: Data Availability. Recently, there's been chatter on X about DA being commoditized to zero and the only value accrual in the modular stack being in execution. Is this true? Where is the current demand for DA? Are modular DA providers competing with Ethereum? In our latest conversat...

ZKVMs and Proof Verification 30.08.2024

Join us for a discussion about ZKVMs and Proof Verification with ZKVProtocol, RiscZero, ProjectZKM and Aligned Layer. Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our TG gr...

Why SolverFi Is The Next Big Trend In Crypto 29.08.2024

We've been studying the chain abstraction stack pretty heavily recently. Over the last few months, we've developed a thesis that our optimal outcome in the more immediate future is to have a frontend UX powered by a wallet abstraction provider which allows for all your crypto balances across all chains to be aggregated in one place. Then, when you interact across various different dApps in...

What is a ZK coprocessor and what onchain apps do they enable? 28.08.2024

Join us for a discussion about ZK coprocessor and what onchain apps do they enable. Participants: Ismael Hishon-Rezaizadeh from Lagrange Mo from Brevis Felipe Argento from Cartesi Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollu...

How To Navigate The Volatile Crypto Markets 28.08.2024

A bit of a different vibe from our typical technical content as we dive into the perspective of one of the most well known crypto funds, built by Arthur Hayes, ex-CEO of BitMEX. If you've been in the space for a while, you know that market swings are extremely frequent and can be quite volatile. The key to thriving in this environment isn’t about trying to predict the next big move but about u...

DeFi on High TPS Modular Appchains 23.08.2024

Join us for a discussion about DeFi on High TPS Modular Appchains with Simon Jones of Reya and Cedo Salah of StorkOracle. Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/robbie_rollup Follow Andy on X: https://www.x.com/ayyyeandy Join our T...

A Friendly Debate About Bitcoin Scaling 23.08.2024

When we originally drew this piece up, we were thinking to make it solely about Bitcoin blockspace (as shown in the thumbnail), but this debate stretched a vast number of topics. In today's piece, we’re diving into the nuanced evolution of Bitcoin, from its foundational role as digital gold to its potential as a robust platform for onchain applications. Bitcoin’s narrative is shifting, but its...

Data In The Modular Stack 21.08.2024

Join us for an indepth discussion about Data In The Modular Stack with: Ganesh Swami from Covalent Kimura Yu from Sunrise Ram from Openledger Kenny from Manta Network Kyle Rojas from Avail Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://www.x.com/rob...

Why Galxe Is Launching Their Own Chain 20.08.2024

We've been discussing chain abstraction as the next logical step for the modular ecosystem for some time now. Today, Gravity, the new chain launched by Galxe, is ready to take this challenge on as well. By integrating over 35 different chains, Galxe has long been a key player in the ecosystem, but with Gravity, they are launching their modular appchain. This new Layer 2 solution, which aims to...

WTF is MEV? Pre-Confs & MEV Commit Explained 19.08.2024

MEV is how some VCs value Layer 1 blockchains, its how "sandwich attacks" happen onchain, and its sometimes toxic. Although, we've found that "toxic flow" is really just profitable user trading onchain...that's a conversation for another day though. MEV has evolved from its early days as "Miner Extractable Value," a term that felt relevant in a proof-of-work w...

How To Connect Ethereum's Rollup Clusters 16.08.2024

Following yesterday's podcast detailing the "Why" we should care about building a connected future for Ethereum, we decided to follow it up with a detailed, technical video on the "How" it will be accomplished. Rollup clusters offer a promising way forward, and in this piece, we’re breaking down exactly how they work and which interoperability solutions are best suited for...

Why We Should Care About Ethereum's Future 15.08.2024

Ethereum's early marketing was focused on building an infinite garden. An open space, for experimentation and innovation of any kind. No walled gardens. No closed systems. No incentive misalignment. That has changed, and its time to talk about how we can adjust our course as a community. Ethereum’s shift towards a rollup-centric roadmap has been imperative for scaling. It’s led to the emergenc...

Chain Abstraction Ecosystem Discussion 14.08.2024

Chain abstraction is pivotal in shaping the blockchain ecosystem, akin to the early internet's revolutionary HTTP. We explore its role in enhancing interoperability and UX, discussing components like messaging protocols, solvers, and netting processes. We also highlight the potential for seamless coexistence among thousands of blockchains, driven by robust incentives and efficient coordination...

The Importance of Chain Signatures & Atomicity 13.08.2024

Just a few days after we dropped the chain abstraction market map, we come to you with an in-depth podcast about NEAR's chain signatures, which they recently announced as well. As the crypto space continues to grow, so does the need for better ways to connect different blockchains. Proximity, a project born from the NEAR ecosystem, has been working on a solution that could help simplify these...

What Are Epheremal Rollups? 12.08.2024

Welcome back to another technical deep dive, this time about ephemeral rollups. This idea was originally presented to us a few months back with an idea of "building a chain, launching it, then shutting it down when you're done with it", which was pretty interesting. These 'ephemeral rollups' are designed to be temporary, existing just long enough to handle specific tasks befo...

How To Unify The Ethereum Community 07.08.2024

Ethereum is as divided and fragmented as it has ever been. Between rollups, MEV debates, and the lack of performance at the base layer, we are seeing a lot of discourse around abrupt changes. However, is this really something the community can't rally around and form a solution? We think it is. So, in today's pod we dive into an often-overlooked aspect of Ethereum—its marketing and communi...

Improving UX in The Modular Ecosystem 07.08.2024

Exploring the next steps for creating a better user experience for the rollup-centric roadmap and modular ecosystem. 𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦...

Modular Ecosystem Roadmap 2024-2025 07.08.2024

In this livestream we dive into the evolution of the modular blockchain ecosystem, focusing on data availability sampling, high TPS chains, and the rise of Celestia. The discussion explores the future of the modular stack, the push for gigabyte blocks, and the need for better user experience and infrastructure. It also highlights the potential of chain abstraction, rollup clusters, and the critica...

The New Era of Bitcoin Powered By Starknet 06.08.2024

Starknet is coming to Bitcoin with one of the biggest breakthroughs in Bitcoin scaling: STARK verifiers natively on Bitcoin. In a recent conversation with Eli Ben-Sasson from StarkWare, we got a closer look at how they’re working to bring STARK verifiers to Bitcoin, something that hasn’t been possible until now. Our discussion was centered around giving the Bitcoin network new capabilities, thanks...

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