Where digital assets meet capital markets. Hosted by Robbie & Andy

The Rollup

Where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Website: https://therollup.co/

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Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Crypto Privacy Shifts, Sovereign's stack, and Reviewing The Signal with Sid Gandhi, Preston Evans, and Shiv Shankar 09.08.2025

The Rollup TV is brought to you by: Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/ AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/ Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/ Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/ Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/ Summer: https://summer.fi/ Join The Rollup Family: Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: h...

How Austin Barack Separates Signal From Noise in DeFi 06.08.2025

It looks like the gap between DeFi hype and sustainable revenue is finally starting to close. In today's episode, we sit down with Austin Barack, founder of Relayer Capital, to explore how smart money separates signal from noise in DeFi. Austin has backed some of the current most exciting protocols like GTE and Vedae. We cover how to identify genuine product-market fit versus token momentum, why s...

The New Era Of Distribution with Ram Kumar & Eowyn Chen 04.08.2025

In today's episode, we explore AI and crypto wallets with Ram Kumar from Open Ledger and Eowyn from Trust Wallet. As AI reshapes wallet interfaces, we discuss the "fat wallet thesis" and more:-How Trust Wallet Plans to Integrate AI Without Compromising Self-Custody-The Security Risks of AI-Powered Wallets-OpenLedger's Vision for Rewarding Data Contributors-Why Generic AI Will Nev...

Why 2025 Is DeFi's Institutional Breakout Year with Corey Caplan from Dolomite 01.08.2025

DeFi is getting its second wind, and this time it's different. Revenue sharing, buybacks, and actual value accrual are replacing the empty promises of DeFi summer. In today's episode, we sit down with Corey from Dolomite to explore how money markets are evolving into full-service prime brokerages and why protocols need unique efficiencies to survive. We also dive into Dolomite and their di...

I founded WonderFi Then Built A Crypto Treasury Vehicle - Karia Samaroo 30.07.2025

In today's episode, we sit down with Karia Samaroo, founder of WonderFi, which Robinhood is in the process of acquiring. He now has founded xTAO, to explore how AI tokens can bridge retail hype and institutional adoption. After WonderFi, Karia is tackling Bittensor's mainstream potential. Let's get into it. The Rollup ------ Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify....

Macro Moves, Bittensor, Chains and Rollups with Kyle Reidhead, Karia Samaroo and Matt Katz 30.07.2025

The Rollup TV is brought to you by: Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/ AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/ Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/ Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/ Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/ Summer: https://summer.fi/ Join The Rollup Family: Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: h...

The 9-Figure EtherFi Revenue Machine with Mike Silagadze 25.07.2025

More infrastructure won’t bring everyday users into crypto. Apps that actually matter to people will. In this episode, we chat with Mike Silagadze, CEO of Ether.fi, about how he raised funds for infrastructure and then pivoted to focus on building consumer-facing apps. Ether.fi is looking to become a DeFi bank where developers can build tools like auto-saving widgets, cashback lottery systems and...

The Real Story Behind Everclear's Growth with Arjun Bhuptani 24.07.2025

ETH treasury companies are quietly driving billions in cross-chain volume, and most people are missing it. In today's episode, we sit down with Arjun Bhuptani, founder of Everclear, to explore how institutional ETH flows are creating massive opportunities in cross-chain infrastructure. We cover how Everclear crossed a billion dollars in volume by becoming the clearing layer for cross-chain ETH...

John Adler On Proof Of Goverance, TIA Staking, and New Tokenomics 23.07.2025

Proof of stake might not be the endgame we thought it was. In today's episode, we sit down with John Adler from Celestia to explore his controversial "proof of governance" proposal that's been ruffling feathers in crypto Twitter. John argues staking creates fake yield through inflation while creating unfair validator economics. His solution? Skip staking entirely and move to gove...

Proof Of Governance, Storm on Ownership and Institutional Adoption with Arjun Bhuptani, John Adler and JJ 23.07.2025

The Rollup TV is brought to you by:Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/Summer: https://summer.fi/ Join The Rollup Family:Website: https://therollup.co/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd..Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcastFollow us on X: https://www...

The Monad Thesis With James Hunsaker 21.07.2025

High-frequency trading is meeting blockchain reality, but the result isn't what you think. In today's episode, we sit down with James Hunsaker from Monad to cut through the throughput hype. While everyone debates TPS numbers, James explains why latency and economic incentives are the real bottlenecks holding back crypto adoption. This conversation challenges assumptions about what high-performance...

How Wall Street Learned To Love Tokenization with Michael Sonnenshein 18.07.2025

The tokenized RWA market just hit $25B. Is this institutional adoption or just hype dressed up in compliance theater? In today's episode, we sit down with Michael Sonnenshein, COO of Securitize, to explore what's really happening. With nearly $4B in tokenized assets and partnerships with BlackRock and Apollo, Securitize is leading the charge. We dive into why Wall Street is embracing token...

The Signal, Boundless Mainnet Launch, Wormhole’s RWA Focus, New Chief AI Officer at Story Protocol with Tomer Weller, Shiv Shankar, Sreeram Kannan, Robinson Burkey, Declan Fox & Michał Zając 18.07.2025

The Rollup TV is brought to you by: Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/ AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/ Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/ Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/ Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/ Summer: https://summer.fi/ Join The Rollup Family: Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: h...

Why You Should Question Proof-of-Stake As The Default with Jon Charbonneau 16.07.2025

lockchain architecture is far from as settled as we’ve been told. In today's episode, we sit down with Jon Charbonneau, co-founder of DBA, live from Permissionless to challenge some of crypto's most accepted design decisions. Jon questions whether Proof-of-Stake should remain the default consensus mechanism and explores where Proof-of-Governance fits into the future. . We also talk about t...

Dormant BTC Whale Offloading Billions, Tokenization Mania, Ethereum Goes All-In on ZK and Songcoins with Karel Kubat, Michael Sonnenshein and Cooper Turley 16.07.2025

The Rollup TV is brought to you by: Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/ AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/ Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/ Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/ Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/ Summer: https://summer.fi/ Join The Rollup Family: Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: h...

How Blockchain Fixes AI's Biggest Problem with Anand Iyer 14.07.2025

What if the future of AGI isn't owned by a handful of tech giants? In today's episode, we sit down with an Anand Iyer, a prominent AI crypto investor who's been living in the trenches of both worlds to explore how $300 billion has flowed into centralized AI versus just $1 billion into decentralized AI and why this disparity creates the biggest opportunity. We dig into the push to give AI ownership...

How Programmable IP Could Save Creators From Big Tech with S.Y. Lee 11.07.2025

The intellectual property market is worth an estimated $70 trillion. But with AI endlessly creating new variations and evolving on its own, the question of "who owns what?" has never been more complex. This week, we’re sitting down with S.Y. Lee, co-founder of Story Protocol, to dive into what programmable IP really unlocks and the biggest misconceptions about digital ownership. As AI ge...

The Case for a New Bitcoin Execution Layer with Eli Ben-Sasson 10.07.2025

The future of decentralization is about true self-ownership, not just removing middlemen. In today's episode, we sit down with Eli Ben-Sasson, co-founder of StarkWare, to explore his bold 2025 prediction: Starknet becoming Bitcoin's execution layer. We dive into why ZK technology that isn't live in production doesn't scale, how blockchain is becoming the new diplomacy channel, and...

Why Ethereum Won Argentina's Digital Identity Battle with Diego Fernandez and RJ 08.07.2025

Real-world crypto adoption won’t happen with just infrastructure, it needs to actually solve the problems that institutions are facing. In today's episode, we sit down with Diego Fernandez, former Secretary of Innovation for Buenos Aires, and RJ from Aligned to explore how 700,000 citizens now carry their government documents in crypto wallets through QuarkID. We dive into why governments choo...

How Stablecoins and DePIN Will Disrupt Everything with Santiago Santos 07.07.2025

Banks have been making money off your deposits while giving you nothing in return. Meanwhile, DePIN networks are building infrastructure that could make these outdated institutions obsolete. All at a fraction of the cost. In today's episode, we sit down with Santiago Roel Santos, founder of Inversion, to explore how stablecoins and decentralized infrastructure are changing everything from bank...

Why AI Agents Need Better Blockchain Data with Marcel Fohrmann 04.07.2025

AI agents need data to function, but who actually controls the flow of that data? In this episode, we chat with Marcel from SQD about how decentralized data infrastructure could change the game for the AI agent economy. SQD is building what they call "the Airbnb of databases", a decentralized network of over 3,000 nodes providing data without vendor lock-ins. We dive into why traditional...

Tarun Chitra on AI x Crypto, His AI ‘Daily Drivers’, and Staking Landscape 02.07.2025

Tarun Chitra digs into how the AI stack is fracturing, and that might be exactly what we need. In today's episode, we chat with Tarun and explore how AI models are becoming specialized tools. He breaks down why O3 excels at reasoning but fails at coding, while Claude handles debugging and Gemini maintains consistency. We dive into AI model management, which sees users becoming managers of spec...

Haseeb Qureshi on Proof Of Stake, Revenue, and Stablecoins 01.07.2025

We sat with Haseeb at Permissionless and delve into the complexities of today's crypto market. The conversation explores nominal yields, inflation dynamics, and the stablecoin landscape. We discuss how payment systems are shifting, the growing intersection between crypto and TradFi, and emerging investment trends across the space. The discussion also touches on AI's role in shaping crypto&...

Kled AI & Accusations, The Staking Landscape, Texas BTC Reserve, CLOB Wars Debate, AI Agents & AutoFi with Avi Patel, Will Clemente, Brian Crain, Nick White, Douglas Colkitt and Sean Li 24.06.2025

The Rollup TV is brought to you by: Boundless: https://beboundless.xyz/ AltLayer: https://www.altlayer.io/ Mantle: https://www.mantle.xyz/ Vertex: https://vertexprotocol.com/ Subsquid: https://www.sqd.ai/ Summer: https://summer.fi/ Join The Rollup Family: Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd.. Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: h...

Which Stablecoin Will Rule the Next Decade? with Sid Powell 22.06.2025

DeFi is finally growing up, but is it becoming something completely different in the process? In today's episode, we sit down with Sid Powell, CEO and Co-Founder of Maple, to explore how institutional capital is reshaping decentralized finance. We dive into the stablecoin wars, who's actually tokenizing real assets versus just doing PR, and whether permissioned DeFi is the inevitable future of cap...

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