RTN Productions
The Road to Now
Bob Crawford (The Avett Brothers) & Dr. Ben Sawyer (MTSU History) share conversations with great thinkers from a variety of backgrounds – historians, artists, legal scholars, political figures and more –who help us uncover the many roads that run between past and present. For more information, visit TheRoadToNow.comIf you'd like to support our work, join us on Patreon: Patreon.com/TheRoadToNow
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Washington's Farewell Revisited w/ John Avlon 05.10.2020 34:31
This episode is a reair of RTN #48 (with an updated intro). George Washington is one of the most revered figures in American history. As Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army, Washington led his troops to one of the most unlikely and world-shaking victories in modern history, and his selection as President of both the Constitutional Convention and the new government designed that summer in Ph...
#181 More Questions than Answers 21.09.2020 45:15
2020 has been "eventful" so Bob & Ben decided to take an episode to sit back and cover what's been happening lately and answer questions from our Patrons. We discuss Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the state of politics in the US and major developments in the 2020 election. Ben also gives a rundown of the recent White House Conference on American History (read his twitter thread here) and what appears to be...
#180 The Transformation of American Policing w/ Stuart Schrader 07.09.2020 1:45:44
The confrontations between demonstrators and police that have taken place in the last few months have resulted in a national debate about law enforcement. The expanded use of Federal officers in American cities and the use of unmarked vehicles to detain citizens are concerning recent developments, but some scholars have pointed out that these tactics bear striking similarities to the strategies pu...
#179 The Pursuit of Happiness w/ Ravi Patel 24.08.2020 1:36:27
Ravi Patel has been a lot of things– an investment banker, an actor, the co-founder of an organization that benefits undernourished children– but in recent years, he's set out to find the answers to life's big questions and to share what he finds with others. In this episode, Ravi joins Bob and Ben for a conversation about family, friends and what he discovered from traveling the world for his new...
#178 The Facebook Catastrophe w/ Roger McNamee 10.08.2020 1:11:55
In 2006, Roger McNamee played a crucial role in convincing Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg not to sell his company to Yahoo!. A couple of years later, he helped bring Sheryl Sandberg in as Facebook's COO. Yet despite this personal connection, and his role as an early investor in the company, Roger now believes that Facebook has become a threat to democracy. In this episode, Bob and Ben talk with...
#177 How the South Won the Civil War w/ Heather Cox Richardson 27.07.2020 1:48:24
The military engagements of the US Civil War came to an end in 1865, but the ideology of the confederacy was not so easily defeated. In this episode we speak with Dr. Heather Cox Richardson about her new book How the South Won the Civil War: Oligarchy, Democracy, and the Continuing Fight for the Soul of America and how the worldview of antebellum southern elites came to be embraced by the "movemen...
#176 Musical Chairs w/ Joe Kwon 13.07.2020 1:20:24
Cellist Joe Kwon joins Bob & Ben to talk about his journey from aspiring classical musician to Bob's bandmate in The Avett Brothers . Joe shares his experiences as a Korean immigrant growing up in North Carolina, why he decided to become a cellist, and where he learned to play the cello standing up. Joe and Bob also discuss how they first met, Joe's first show with the band, and why Joe has such a...
I Can't Breathe: Surviving the Dual Pandemics of Racism and Covid-19 w/ Louis Woods 29.06.2020 2:00:02
As Americans grapple with the devastation wrought by the dual pandemics of racism and Covid-19, it is critically important to understand the vast racial disparities Covid-19 has exposed within the African American community (specifically), but communities of color (generally). The legacies of housing policies sponsoring residential segregation, and the associated racial gaps in wealth, educational...
#175 The Death of Expertise w/ Tom Nichols 22.06.2020 1:30:42
Tom Nichols is University Professor at the Naval War College, where he specializes in international affairs, and a respected commentator on US politics and international security. A former Republican, Tom broke from the party during the Trump administration and has since been a vocal critic of the current administration. In this episode Bob and Ben speak with Tom about the current state of America...
#174 Direction w/ Michael Bonfiglio 15.06.2020 1:21:30
Michael Bonfiglio is an award-winning filmmaker whose work as a director and producer includes May It Last: A Portrait of the Avett Brothers (2017), the ESPN 30 for 30 documentaries You Don't Know Bo: The Legend of Bo Jackson (2012) and Doc & Darryl (2016), and From the Ashes (2017). Mike joins Ben & Bob to talk about the art of making documentary films, how his work engages with the historical na...
#173 The South w/ Trae Crowder 01.06.2020 1:23:36
Since going viral with his Liberal Redneck videos in 2016, comedian Trae Crowder has become well-known for sharing a perspective that is southern in origin, but not quite what most people expect. In this episode, Trae joins Bob and Ben for a conversation about southern culture, the south's bizarre embrace of Donald Trump, and how his work helped a lot of southerners with less conservative viewpoin...
#172 Fourth Anniversary Party 18.05.2020 58:21
There was a lot happening when Bob and Ben launched the first episode of The Road to Now on May 19th, 2016. It was the year of a Presidential election, there was an intense feeling of partisanship in the air, and people were everywhere- at concerts, in classes, on the sidewalk…. Four years later, Bob and Ben are still going strong, so we decided to make this year's anniversary episode a party and...
#171 Baseball in Context w/ Jayson Stark 11.05.2020 1:34:54
Baseball is part of America's cultural fabric, and few people know the game and its place in society as well as Jayson Stark. As a celebrated sportswriter, Jayson has witnessed baseball's transformation for more than four decades, and has had a front-row seat to some of the biggest moments in the sport's history. In this episode, Bob & Ben talk with Jayson about baseball's place in American cultur...
#170 Soviet Soldiers and the Red Army in World War II w/ Brandon Schechter 04.05.2020 1:02:17
On June 22, 1941, Nazi Germany launched an attack on the USSR that caught Soviet leaders completely off guard. Over the next four years, the Red Army was transformed, as were the lives of more than 34 million men and women who served in its ranks. In this episode, Ben speaks with Brandon Schechter about his new book The Stuff of Soldiers: A History of the Red Army in World War II Through Objects (...
# 169 The Kinks: Songs of the Semi-Detached w/ Mark Doyle 27.04.2020 1:00:22
The Kinks are one of the great rock bands of the 20th century, and like all artists, they reflect the times and places they've inhabited. In this episode, we speak with Mark Doyle about his excellent new book The Kinks: Songs of the Semi-Detached (Reaktion Books, 2020) and how the band, their origins, and Ray Davies' lyrics can teach us a lot about both the real and imagined spaces of mid-20th Cen...
Technology and the Mind w/ Nicholas Carr 20.04.2020 42:08
This is a rebroadcast of an episode that originally aired on March 20, 2017 Note: Given that we are relying more than ever on technology to communicate and work during this epidemic, we thought it was a good time to share our interview w/ Nicholas Carr. The internet has revolutionized the human experience in the 21st century. Our ability to communicate with others, find locations in unfamiliar pla...
#168 Breaking Down the 5G Conspiracy w/ Stacy Wood 13.04.2020 56:04
As people try to make sense of the Coronavirus epidemic, some have unfortunately turned to conspiracy theories linking Covid-19 to the installation of 5G networks. In this episode, Bob and Ben speak with Stacy Wood about her research on conspiracy theories, the past conspiracy theories that have converged in the 5G theory, and the reasons some people are willing to accept these explanations of the...
#167 The Outbreak Narrative w/ Priscilla Wald 06.04.2020 51:45
When we think of epidemics, we often imagine the central struggle as between microbe and epidemiologist. But as the coronavirus outbreak has reminded us, our individual actions can compound in ways that have a very real implications for any epidemic. The narrative we adopt to understand these events- ie the story we tell ourselves about who is responsible, who can save us, and what power we have i...
#166 Everything's Going To Be Okay 30.03.2020 43:45
Based on what you've told us on social media, it's time for a break from the outbreak. So in this episode, Bob and Ben talk about the French Revolution, nationalism and colonization (aka the books assigned for Bob's Graduate European History Seminar). They also talk about the art of teaching and Ben's approach to transitioning to teaching his history classes online (which he recently had to do for...
#165 Saving America's Cities w/ Lizabeth Cohen 23.03.2020 1:05:26
Note: Bob and Ben start off talking about the Covid-19 outbreak and plans for upcoming episodes of this podcast. We shift to our discussion with Dr. Cohen at about 10:30. The suburbanization of the American landscape after World War II left the country's older urban centers in crisis. Revitalizing cities was no easy task, and many of the most inspiring plans for reconstructing America's urban spac...
#164 What('s) A Disaster 16.03.2020 33:11
Disasters abound, and what comes next is all about making good decisions. Ben talks about the Nashville tornado of 1998, the Nashville tornado of 2020, and the coronavirus, and Dr. Andy Bruno shares his expertise on the origins of natural disasters and what we can learn from studying them in history.
The History of Coal w/ Chuck Keeney 09.03.2020 36:56
Bob and Ben speak with Dr. Chuck Keeney about the history of coal in the United States. Chuck explains the ways that the coal industry has shaped not only the physical landscape of mining towns, but also, through lobbying efforts and information campaigns, the way we understand our nation's history. Chuck is uniquely qualified to tell the story of coal; not only does he hold a PhD in history from...
#163 The Avett Brothers Archive w/ Tim Mossberger 24.02.2020 49:14
For many years now, Tim Mossberger has been building an incredible collection of material objects, music, and information on Bob's band The Avett Brothers . In this episode, Bob and Ben talk with Tim about how he became the Avett Archivist, where he gets his rare items, and how he processes, preserves, and organizes the massive amount of material he's acquired over the years. Bob and Tim also talk...
#162 The Presidents' Day Rundown 17.02.2020 43:22
The Road to Now is celebrating our fourth Presidents' Day by launching our first Presidents' Day episode! To mark this momentous occasion, Bob and Ben both sat down with a list of three significant moments in presidential history and discussed how they changed the country. Are there Roosevelts? Yes. Are there presidents born in three different centuries? Yes. Should you listen instead of asking an...
#161 Food in the Era of Adulteration w/ Benjamin Cohen 10.02.2020 55:59
When it comes to food, knowing what you're getting can be tricky. On the surface, words such as "pure" and "natural" seem straightforward, yet defining them in the modern world has required experts, laws, and administrative structures. In this episode, Bob & Ben speak with Lafayette College's Benjamin Cohen about the pure food crusades of the late nineteenth century, the origins of the Pure Food A...
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