Toni Hohlbein & Raul Porojan

The Revenue Formula

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This podcast is about scaling tech startups. Hosted by Toni Hohlbein & Raul Porojan, together they look at the full funnel. With a combined 20 years of experience in B2B SaaS and 3 exits, they discuss growing pains, challenges and opportunities they’ve faced. Whether you're working in RevOps, sales, operations, finance or marketing - if you care about revenue, you'll care about this podcast. If there’s one thing they hate, it’s talk. We know, it’s a bit of an oxymoron. But execution and focus is the key - that’s why each episode is designed to give 1-2 very concrete takeaways.

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Toni Hohlbein & Raul Porojan

Category

Business

Podcast website

revenueformula.substack.com

Latest episode

Nov 25, 2025

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Episodes

Don't create a category, do this instead (with Kyle Coleman) 07.11.2024

Kyle is back on the show - this time we grill him on category creation, and finding a problem to market instead. He should know, he saw a category and problem get created at Clari, and is running the playbook again at Copy.ai. (00:00) - Introduction (02:45) - The TLDR of Kyle's presentation at Exit5 (03:27) - Are you differentiated? (06:44) - How are you going to get the sale funded? (09:42) - The...

3 Career Hacks You Should Know About 05.11.2024

Here's two guys without a job doling out their top 3 career hacks. Don't worry, they had jobs when they used the hacks - and some of them they just observed. But they had one thing in common: They worked. Give it a listen and use it to guide your teams or your own career trajectory. (00:00) - Introduction (03:52) - 1: Chaos is a ladder (10:47) - 2: He who controls the spice controls the universe (...

AI in Action: GTM use cases that work (with Andy Mowat) 31.10.2024

Do you need an AI strategy? Do AI SDRs work? And if they don’t, what does? This and more we talk about with Andy Mowat (00:00) - Introduction (05:47) - RevOps vs GTM Ops and retitling (11:10) - AI Usecases in the GTM (12:18) - The main sales usecase (14:15) - AI SDRs: Efficiency vs. Conversion (19:02) - AI that actually works in sales (23:06) - AI and data (26:08) - Generative AI and Data Normaliz...

Growblocks is shutting down: here's what we've learned 29.10.2024

Growblocks is done, but we're continuing the podcast - so we thought we'd share some of the things we've learned along the way in this episode. (00:00) - Introduction (02:43) - Growblocks shutting down (03:36) - Why it didn't work (04:36) - The people we were selling to (07:56) - Internal Selling and Champion Challenges (13:16) - Category Creation and Market Positioning (15:50) - Impact of SaaS an...

Here are two simple ways to reduce burn 15.10.2024

Need to be more efficient in your GTM? Then it's time to get serious about your burn rate. In this episode, Mikkel and Toni break down some tactics you can start now to get your finances in line. (00:00) - Introduction (02:42) - Reducing Burn (09:02) - Mastering Payment Terms for Cashflow (12:07) - Strategic Pay Raises and Salary Bands (14:32) - Effective Use of SPIFFs (16:31) - Navigating Budget...

Are warrants a scam? Here’s what you need to know 08.10.2024

Between bad leaver clauses, dilution and liquidation preferences, we're willing to bet most folks out there don't understand their warrants. And who can blame them? In this episode, we break down the complexities of warrants in compensation packages and answer the question: Are they worth it? Or are they just a scam? (00:00) - Introduction (02:13) - Understanding Warrants: A Potential Scam? (04:22...

7 GTM problems everyone has, and how to fix them (with Eddie Reynolds) 03.10.2024

What if we told you there are 7 simple mistakes companies make over and over again? From the misalignment between sales and marketing to the mishandling of inbound leads, Eddie Reynolds joins us to shed light on why these mistakes happen, and how to avoid them. (00:00) - Introduction (04:16) - Transition to SaaS Companies Discussion (05:10) - The Importance of a True Revenue Leader (06:56) - Chall...

To prevent burnout, this could be the answer 01.10.2024

Do you recognize this in yourself or someone else: You're working hard. More than what's required. You're rxtremely busy, but at the end of the week, you're just not sure what you actually got done. Yes, that really hurts. And eventually, you'll burn out. The solution? Getting productive as F... (00:00) - Introduction (02:29) - Stress, burnout and productivity (08:06) - Keeping an inventory (08:26...

Starting a new job? Do these 3 things 24.09.2024

Whether you're a new CRO, VP of Marketing, or RevOps, if you want to earn your title, you'll want to onboard quickly and drive results early. But that's usually easier said than done. In this episode, we give you 3 things you should do when starting a new organization to bring value from day 1. (00:00) - Introduction (01:09) - How to onboard yourself (03:16) - Importance of Pre-Start Research (04:...

Do we have a tenure problem in tech? 17.09.2024

Yes. Tenure for tech is relatively bad when comparing to other industries. But is that a problem? And if so, how do we fix it?  This and more we get into in todays episode (00:00) - Introduction (02:41) - After 3 years, half your team has moved one (07:02) - Boomers, millenials and different tenures (12:18) - The problem short tenure creates (13:10) - Employee Acquisition Costs (14:23) - The Hidde...

How to build & replicate stellar sales teams (With Collin Cadmus) 12.09.2024

What does it take to build a succesful salesteam? And what does it take to replicate it? That's what we talk with Collin Cadmus about. (00:00) - Introduction (04:08) - Sales Success and Product Quality (09:28) - Identifying a Great Product (14:54) - Building a Strong Sales Team (20:55) - Replicating Successful Sales Teams (21:36) - Setting Attainable Quotas (22:12) - Incentivizing High Performance...

Is it time to merge inbound and outbound? 10.09.2024

When folks run outbound, they eventually also run inbound. But should those motions really be separate? What would happen if they were merged? And what problems would it resolve? This and more we discuss in todays episode (00:00) - Introduction (00:42) - Hunting Challenges and Reflections (02:43) - Transition to Business Discussion (02:59) - Outbound vs Inbound Marketing Debate (03:42) - Month-End...

Does your data have credibility issues? (With Lindsay Cordell) 05.09.2024

That's not the number I have. How did you calculate it? What field did you use!!?. Data promises amazing insights and great decision making. But more often than not, we tend to not trust the data. That's why we talk about data trust with Lindsay. (00:00) - Introduction (02:24) - Data Trust Issues (03:56) - Common Data Quality Problems (11:27) - Impact of Data Issues on Business (14:57) - Manual Da...

Customer Success isn't a profit center - here's why 03.09.2024

Yes, customer success should be a profit center. But for many companies, it's just not. In this episode, we discuss why that's the case - and why it's not just a quick fix. We do share some tips to make it a profit center though. (00:00) - Introduction (03:01) - Challenges in Customer Success (05:18) - The Reality of Upselling (08:22) - Cultural Differences in Sales (11:37) - Strategies for Effect...

Creating a growth model for SaaS (with Anthony Enrico) 29.08.2024

The fastest growing companies use growth models. You probably already have one - but is it fully built out? Does it really work? In this episode, we talk with Anthony who's build quite a few. (00:00) - Introduction (02:43) - Diving into Growth Modeling (11:39) - Challenges and Pitfalls in Growth Modeling (16:08) - Understanding Pipeline Needs (17:35) - Challenges in Planning and Execution (19:49)...

GTM Inflation & the cost of doing nothing 27.08.2024

Yes, inflation can be boring. No, you can't ignore it even in the GTM teams. We discuss what problems inflation is creating - and what to do about it. (00:00) - Introduction (01:20) - SaaS and GTM inflation (06:18) - Rising Costs and Business Adjustments (09:57) - Understanding Value Pricing in SaaS (11:00) - Check your T&Cs (13:50) - Using Price Increase Wisely (18:54) - Communicating Price I...

Here's how AI is changing sales (With Kyle Coleman) 22.08.2024

Will AI replace your sales team? Can it? Should it? What is AI even? This and much more, we talk with Kyle Coleman about. He's CMO at copy.ai , so he knows a thing or two about AI. (00:00) - Introduction (02:38) - AI in Sales: Initial Thoughts (03:26) - What's AI changing right now? (04:30) - Challenges with AI SDRs (07:24) - Future of AI in Sales (14:07) - Account strategy plans with AI (17:34) -...

Challenger brands: Forcing people to pick a side 20.08.2024

What does a SaaS company, an airline and an oatmilk company have in common? They're challenger brands. And it can be a pretty powerful strategy you can take as a brand. We run through real examples and much more (00:00) - Introduction (02:10) - Challenger Brands... what is it? (03:50) - Salesforce vs. Siebel: The Ultimate Challenger Brand (09:55) - Salesforce's Guerrilla Marketing Tactics (13:22)...

The New GTM Playbook (With Sid Kumar) 15.08.2024

The majority of revenue comes after the initial sales. A 5% lift in retention can lead to a 20-95% increase in revenue. But most companies neglect the customer side - so we need a new playbook. That's exactly what we talked about with Sid Kumar, VP of GTM Strategy & Planning at Databricks.   (00:00) - Introduction (02:23) - Meet Sid (03:05) - The Need for a New Go-to-Market Playbook (03:17) -...

4 Reasons customers aren't expanding 13.08.2024

If you're north of $5M ARR, 40% of new revenue should come from existing customers. Are you seeing enough revenue from expansion? Even if you're getting expansion, maybe you can get more - we talk about a few ways to achieve it. (00:00) - Introduction (02:34) - Why does expansion matter? (05:45) - Challenges with Expansion (08:19) - Strategies for Effective Expansion (10:28) - Do you get the right...

Can RevOps lead sales? Well, this person does (with Ryan Milligan) 08.08.2024

Thought experiment: What would happen if you put RevOps in charge in sales? Well, we spoke Ryan from QuotaPath who started in RevOps, and now also runs sales. And there's a few interesting learnings you shouldn't miss (00:00) - Introduction (01:30) - Meet Ryan (02:02) - Transition from RevOps to Sales Leadership (03:52) - What we think sales is and what it actually is (06:35) - RevOps and Sales Al...

The plan that kill teams 06.08.2024

It's planning season again. The most agonizing process for GTM teams needing to plan their targets. We discuss how b2b SaaS teams should go about it. (00:00) - Introduction (01:34) - The Annual Plan: A Recipe for Disaster (02:37) - The CFO owns it (07:43) - The most important plan (12:43) - Multi year planning (18:30) - Resource Allocation: Balancing Headcount and Budget (20:04) - Commercial &...

Why PLG suck, and how to fix it (with Wes Bush) 01.08.2024

PLG sucks. Especially if you don't know what you're doing. Too many people assume you just turn on the self-serve button and watch the money roll in. And they couldn't be more wrong. In this episode, we talk with Wes Bush , Founder of ProductLed.com, about everything you need to know about PLG and what you need to do to run it right. (00:00) - Introduction (02:18) - Introducing the Guest: Wes Bush...

Do this before accepting a new job 30.07.2024

Are you "on the bench" looking for a new job in b2b SaaS?. Not sure how to know if the next place is a fit for you? We share a few things to ask, analyze and get in the process. (00:00) - Introduction (01:02) - Navigating the Job Market (02:29) - People on the bench (06:26) - The first thing to think about (09:02) - Pressure test the stats (12:36) - Employer-Employee Fit (16:05) - When is an impac...

3 Reasons reps don't make quota 23.07.2024

Plenty of reps aren't making quota - but there are some very simple reasons why we see again and again and again. We talk about the three reasons - and the best part? You can fix them. (00:00) - Introduction (03:03) - Sales Challenges and Observations (05:18) - Problem 1: Lots of MQLs that go no where (16:21) - Problem 2: Wrong meetings booked (19:42) - Defining Your Ideal Customer Profile (ICP) (...

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