Third Wave

The Psychedelic Podcast

The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance. From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines. Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation. Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, pr...

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Third Wave

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Oct 20, 2026

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Episodes

Daniel Cleland - Building an Ayahuasca Retreat Center 03.10.2021

From an early age, Daniel Cleland knew that the cookie-cutter life was not for him. His desire for travel, entrepreneurship, and non-traditional experiences brought him to the heart of the jungle, where he overcame his fear of ayahuasca and found deep healing. Since then, he's been dedicated to sharing the restorative powers of this medicine with others, and has co-founded Soltara Healing Center t...

Allyson and Alex Grey - Creativity as Spiritual Practice 12.09.2021

What is social sculpture, and how can it uplift humanity? How does an entheogen differ from a psychedelic? What is the "universal mind lattice"? Can psychedelics save your life? In this expansive discussion, Paul Austin and legendary visionary artists Allyson and Alex Grey cover all this and much more, including the symbolic communication of the Divine.

Jeffrey Becker, M.D. The Science of Ketamine: What's Really Going on in Your Brain? 29.08.2021

As one of the earliest researchers and advocates for ketamine's use in healing pain, depression, and addiction, Jeffrey Becker, M.D., is on the forefront of harnessing ketamine's massive untapped potential. In addition to his personal functional psychiatry practice, Jeff is the co-founder and CSO of Bexson Biomedical, which has created a subcutaneous ketamine infusion pump for safe, at-home pain m...

Sean McCormick - Goodbye Industrial Capitalism, Hello Network States: Our Psychedelic Near-Future 27.06.2021

In the three years since Paul and Sean last spoke, there has been huge growth in the psychedelic space, from legal retreats and clinics to corporate interest to personal education and use. In this episode, recorded for Sean's podcast and shared here as well, Paul and Sean discuss the revolutionary changes psychedelics are bringing to mental and physical healthcare, as well as exciting upheavals in...

Michael Verbora, M.D. - Heal Thyself: Revolutionizing the Standard Medical Model 13.06.2021

We're in the early stages of a many-layered worldwide shift: The paternalistic medical model is slowly falling away as we recognize that we're our own best healers. With church affiliation dwindling, more and more of us are turning to different forms of community and spirituality. And as psychedelics continue to grow in mainstream awareness, support of their use in healing and personal growth is g...

Brandon Quittem - Decentralized Intelligence Networks: Bitcoin, Psychedelics, and Mycelium 31.05.2021

What do the ancient mysteries of psychedelics have to do with the modern technology of cryptocurrency? There are several surprising similarities, including global interconnectedness, the move toward personal freedom and sovereignty, and long-term sustainability. In this episode, Paul Austin talks with Brandon Quittem, entrepreneur and enthusiastic Bitcoiner, about the curious overlaps between psyc...

Keith Kurlander - "Breaking Our Perception": Healing Mental Illness through Psychedelics 21.05.2021

Keith Kurlander has practiced integrative psychotherapy and coaching with individuals, couples and groups for over 15 years. After years of treating highly complex patients, as well as a personal journey of overcoming trauma and mental illness, he turned toward integrative psychiatric practices as a key component to achieving mental health and understanding the healing process. In this episode, he...

Ryan Zurrer - Investing in Our Psychedelic Future 02.05.2021

After a successful career in entrepreneurship and cryptocurrency, Ryan Zurrer turned his attention to the burgeoning psychedelic space. As he continued to learn more via research, attending conferences, and speaking with others, he became concerned about what he considers the "dystopian future" of psychedelic therapies - sterile doctors' offices, $8000 treatments, synthetic drugs, no community or...

Lynn Marie Morski, M.D. - Bridging the Plant Medicine Gap 16.04.2021

When Lynn Marie Morski, M.D., was first introduced to psychedelics at age 35, she had the kind of transformative experience that she knew would greatly help her patients at the VA. But with no legal way to recommend plant medicines, she decided to turn her attention to educating doctors about the benefits of psychedelics. Unsure of where her new venture would take her, Lynn Marie quit her job, sta...

Peter Carnochan, Ph.D. - "Nothing is Static": Creating the Life You Want 05.04.2021

Psychoanalyst, executive coach, author, and Harvard-trained philosopher Peter Carnochan, Ph. D., has spent the last 30 years helping clients unknot problematic feelings, solve challenges, and develop more resilient and expansive modes of living. In this episode, Peter talks with Paul about the many ways philosophy and psychedelic experiences complement each other, the interconnectedness of everyth...

Brian Muraresku - Psychedelic Sacraments and the Roots of Modern Religion 28.03.2021

When it comes to contemplative practices, concepts of eternity, and mystical experiences, there are many similarities between ancient traditions and contemporary religions. Could psychedelics be one of those connections? In this episode, Paul Austin talks with Brian Muraresku, author of The Immortality Key: The Secret History of the Religion with No Name , about tens of thousands of years of mysti...

Mac Haddow - Building Government Frameworks for Responsible Kratom Use 22.03.2021

One of the leading advocates in the kratom industry, Mac Haddow spent years working in US government relations, including acting as Chief of Staff at the US Department of Health and Human Services. Today, he is working tirelessly to protect the rights of kratom users and vendors, traveling throughout the US to promote nationwide adoption of the Kratom Consumer Protection Act. In this episode, Mac...

Yaron Conforti - Building the Infrastructure for Our Psychedelic Future 14.03.2021

There's a growing momentum to legalize therapeutic psychedelics in the United States, with clinics nationwide already offering ketamine therapy, as well as the recent decriminalization of psilocybin in Oregon. What do today's treatment protocols look like, and what will the future bring? In this episode, Yaron Conforti, CEO and Director of Novamind, talks with Paul Austin, founder of Third Wave, a...

Tim Sae Koo - The Psychedelic Ecosystem: Consciousness, Community, and Connection 07.03.2021

After building and selling a successful software startup, Tim Sae Koo had a psychedelic experience and vision that revealed his true life's purpose. Today, he devotes himself to 1heart, a home for change makers, creative innovators, and soul seekers who feel called to co-create a collective future as one tribe. In this episode, Tim and Paul reflect on their friendship, and discuss elevating consci...

James Fadiman, Ph.D. - The Genesis of Microdosing: Creativity, Problem-Solving, and Other Feats of Mental Magic 28.02.2021

James Fadiman Ph. D. almost needs no introduction. An early pioneer of psychedelic research, a lifelong proponent of microdosing, and a prolific writer and educator, Jim played a pivotal role in reigniting the conversation around psychedelics in the US and beyond with the publication of his 2011 book, The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide . In this wide-ranging podcast, Jim chats candidly with Paul Aus...

Kat Coder, Ph.D. - Open Heart, Open Mind: Healing Through Connection 21.02.2021

Dr. Katherine Coder was on her way to a career on Wall Street when a psychedelic experience changed the course of her life. Now a counselor and coach, her mission is to help her clients reclaim their birthright and unfold their essential nature into the world. In this episode, Kat and Paul discuss the power of community, connecting to spirit, and pharmaceutical vs. shamanic approaches to healing t...

Amanda Eilian - In Search of Community and Meaning: The Rise of Psychedelic Investment 14.02.2021

Amanda Eilian has been actively investing in early stage consumer companies for the last decade, drawing on her experience as an institutional investor and entrepreneur. Her focus today is on companies that make the daily lives of consumers healthier, happier, and more meaningful. In this episode, Amanda and Paul discuss narrowing the wellness gap and investing in psychedelics for long-term soluti...

Charley Wininger - Listening to Ecstasy: MDMA as the Chemical of Connection 07.02.2021

A psychotherapist since 1989, Charley Wininger is also a licensed psychoanalyst and a mental health counselor who specializes in relationships and communication skills. His recent book, Listening To Ecstasy , tracks his personal experience with MDMA as a way to enhance his life and strengthen his marriage. In this podcast, he and Paul chat about the power of MDMA to solidify relationships, redisco...

Craig Heacock, M.D. - Staunching Spiritual Wounds: New Hope Through New Modalities 01.02.2021

Dr. Craig Heacock, psychiatrist and ketamine treatment provider, offers a counterpoint to a previous guest's view on mental illness and psychiatric medications. While his goal is always to have patients on as few medications as possible, Craig stresses the importance of correctly understanding the nuances of mental health and mental health treatments instead of painting with a broad brush. He and...

Nisha Khanna, M.D. - Disconnection as Disease: Ayurveda and the Return to Balance 24.01.2021

Dr. Nisha Khanna blends Western medicine with the ancient practice of Ayurveda to create holistic health — emotional, mental, physical, and spiritual. Her focus is on getting to the root cause of disease and correcting imbalance, not just covering up the symptoms. In this episode, Nisha and Paul discuss recognizing your higher self, disconnection as disease, and the role of psychedelics in whole-b...

Nik Vassev - Building a Meta-Modern Matrix: A New Take on Capitalism and Consciousness 17.01.2021

After several years in high-pressure technology jobs he didn't enjoy, Nik Vassev had his first psychedelic experience and realized he had full power to transform his life. Less than 18 months later, he had expanded his psychedelic use and created Mindleap, the world's first tele-health platform for therapeutic integration. In this episode, Nik and Paul discuss changing your life through psychedeli...

Natasja Pelgrom - 5-MEO-DMT, Integration, and Connecting With the Divine 10.01.2021

After years spent running an Amsterdam nightclub, Natasja Pelgrom had refined the art of "sex and drugs and rock and roll". At 33, however, she had an epiphany — and spent the next several years releasing her co-dependencies, healing childhood trauma, and rediscovering how to welcome sacredness back into her life. Today, Natasja is a sacred medicine woman, mystic, devotional creative, and visionar...

Timothy Ko - DMT and Addiction: Uncovering the Root Cause of Trauma 03.01.2021

Timothy Ko came to the psychedelic space as a result of his deeply personal connections with depression, anxiety, and addiction. As the CEO of Entheon Biomedical, an organization working on a legal IV DMT protocol, Timothy is dedicated to providing an effective and scalable therapy that will serve as a vital resource for those afflicted with a substance-use disorder, and who are wanting to reclaim...

Mendel Kaelen, Ph.D. - Music and Psychedelic Medicine: Healing Through Sound 27.12.2020

While a PhD researcher at Imperial College London, Mendel Kaelen investigated the brain mechanisms of classic psychedelic drugs and their effects on music-perception and music-evoked emotion. After a year off spent integrating his ayahuasca experiences in the Amazon, Mendel completed his Master's Degree before founding Wavepaths, an algorithmic music system that unifies immersive arts, psychothera...

Danny Motyka - Chemistry, Biosynthetics, and the Promise of Novel Psychedelic Medicines 20.12.2020

With a decades-long commitment to psychedelic advocacy and research, a firsthand knowledge of the life-changing benefits of plant medicine, and his role as CEO of Psygen Labs, Danny Motyka brings a unique perspective to the future of psychedelics. In this episode, he and Paul discuss the differences between the cannabis and psychedelic industries, the role of plant medicines as preventative treatm...

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