The Property Management Show
The Property Management Show
The goal of the Property Management Show podcast is to deconstruct business success into its key components and invite subject matter experts to help you improve every facet of your property management business. The topics covered here range from property management marketing, industry innovations, success stories, all the way to general best practices on how to run a successful business enterprise. The podcast creators are Brittany Jones and Marie Liamzon-Tepman from Fourandhalf, Inc – a marketing company that works exclusively with fee-based Property Management companies. Fourandhalf Marketi...
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Oct 9, 2025
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State of the Podcast Address by Marie and Brittany 15.08.2023 4:03
Hello to all our loyal listeners and property management enthusiasts! You must be wondering about what’s going on with The Property Management Show podcast. We’re here to give you the scoop! We’ve been busy with pre-production for our upcoming season. After a brief hiatus, Brittany is back with a bang! Yes, that’s right! Our beloved co-host will be making her return next se...
Building a Rock Solid Property Management Company: Advice from Business Consultant Deb Newell 11.05.2023 29:02
Our guest on The Property Management Show today is the legendary Deb Newell, of Real Time Consulting Services . She has a lot of experience as a consultant and a property management business owner, so we wanted to get her thoughts on the state of the industry and what property management companies need to do to prepare themselves for the future. Deb Newell: A Background Deb began renovating homes...
What Matthew Kaddatz Learned Running a Property Management Company Through the ’08 Recession 04.05.2023 18:06
The Property Management Show is pleased to welcome Matthew Kaddatz onto the podcast. He’s the senior director of product at Appfolio , and before joining Appfolio, he co-founded a property management company in 2006, right before a major recession. We’ve been talking to property management experts about how they moved through that recession and what they’re planning for the potential new recession...
2024 Property Management Outlook with Jeff Hacker 27.04.2023 29:30
We’re talking to one of our long-time clients, Jeff Hacker, who runs Bayside Management and Leasing . He was on The Property Management Show three years ago , and we love talking with him because he’s been in the property management industry for 20 years. He was with Bayside during the great financial meltdown between 2007 and 2009, and we asked him to come back and share with us some of what he...
Entrepreneurial Lessons from the ’08 Recession with MaryAnn Hoffman & Andrew Dougill 20.04.2023 24:40
We’re welcoming MaryAnn Hoffman and Andrew Dougill back on The Property Management Show. They are the couple behind Hoffman Realty in Tampa, Florida, and they were with us on a previous podcast , where they discussed how they got started in the property management industry as a husband and wife team. One of the things they said during that discussion was how scary it was to have all their eggs i...
How to Market a Property Management Company with Marie Tepman 13.04.2023 45:25
Kathleen Richards recently interviewed Marie for her PM Tribe coaching group . They talked about the importance of marketing for property management companies, when it makes sense to seek professional help, and the current trends in the property management industry. There was lots of good information during that interview, and we want to share it with property managers today on The Property Manag...
3 Blue Ocean Strategies for Growing Property Management Companies with Scott Brady 06.04.2023 31:21
Scott Brady from Progressive Property Management , a successful property management company in southern California, is back on The Property Management Show, talking to us about an updated Blue Ocean Strategy that a property management company can use for the current market. You might remember that he joined us in 2015, when he introduced the Blue Ocean Strategy and how it pertains to property mana...
Weathering the Storm: How to Recession-Proof A Property Management Business w/ Kim & Scott Hampton 30.03.2023 30:49
The current economic climate is a double-edged sword for property management companies. On the one hand, we are seeing increasingly high demand for rental property as people look to downsize and move away from homeownership. On the other hand, with reduced job security and income levels, tenants may find themselves unable to pay rent or in search of lower cost housing options. This means that prop...
How to Set a Property Management Marketing Budget According to Greg Crabtree, CPA 23.03.2023 1:05:55
Greg Crabtree, CPA is back on The Property Management Show to talk about marketing spends and the return on investment (ROI) that property management companies should expect to see on marketing budgets. If you’re not already familiar with Greg, he’s an accomplished entrepreneur, financial expert, and the author of Simple Numbers, a book that every business owner should have read by now. When we fi...
Creating Customers for Life 09.03.2023 39:47
Dave Gorham is back as our guest on The Property Management Show. He is a co-founder of Realty Solutions in New Jersey, and we’re diving into his philosophy around customers for life , and how it’s important to align a business with the idea that you’re going to serve your customers in some capacity for as long as you can. Dialing into Customer Lifetime as a Business Model Customer lifetime is an...
Lifetime Value vs. Transactional Value 23.02.2023 37:25
On The Property Management Show today, we’re speaking with Andrew Smallwood, who is the Chief Customer Officer (CCO) at Second Nature and the host of the Triple Win podcast . We’re diving into the difference between lifetime value and transactional value and how understanding that difference will help you have a successful property management business. Building Customer Lifetime Value versus Trans...
The Power of Purpose-Driven Property Management 09.02.2023 35:23
Andrea Hardaway from First Property Management is blazing a path of success as she has published her book, Property Management Freedom , and recently gave an inspiring talk on the topic of market consolidation at PM Grow Summit 2022 . Despite hefty acquisition offers by larger management companies coming in their direction, Andrea and company remain determined to move forward with independent oper...
Retention in the Face of Acquisition – Part 2 26.01.2023 32:51
We’re back on The Property Management Show with Kathleen Richards. In Part I , she shared her story about buying and selling a property management business, and how she introduced herself to her new employees and clients. We ended the chat talking about toxic owners and how to deal with them while acquiring a business. Property Management and Customer Service Giving bad owners permission to leave...
Retention in the Face of Acquisition – Part 1 12.01.2023 28:50
The prospect of acquiring a property management business is very exciting. The hard part comes when the deal is done. How can you handle the baggage that comes with a book of business? How do you protect yourself from the potential loss of owners and employees? Our guest on today’s podcast has personal experience with this. We are welcoming Kathleen Richards, also known as The Property Management...
Retaining Employees and Clients in a Way that’s Purposeful and Profitable 29.12.2022 35:40
Retaining Employees and Clients in a Way that’s Purposeful and Profitable: A Chat with Jan Leasure from Monterey Bay Property Management Wouldn’t it be nice if you had a team who was in it for the long haul? How do you define the long haul in property management? Is it 10 years or maybe 20 years? What about 30 years? Is it possible? It is. We’re talking to Jan Leasure, the owner of Monterey Bay Pr...
Managing Properties in One of the Country’s Toughest Places Without People-Pleasing 15.12.2022 42:05
Managing Properties in One of the Country’s Toughest Places What does it take to get an amazing reputation, not just on Google, but also on Yelp? Our guests on the podcast today are from R.E.M. Residential . It’s one of the highest-rated residential property management companies in all of New York. They have not had a negative review, not even on Yelp, since 2017. How can they manage in one of the...
Balancing Profit, People, & Customer Experience 01.12.2022 36:07
Note: The names in the video are swapped. The first guest shown is Tommy Chambers and the second is Chris Harold. We welcome you back to the Property Management Show with your hosts, Marie Tepman and Brittany Stephens. In Part 1 of our conversation with Chris and Tommy of Chambers Theory , we talked about how they used data and innovation to expand their customer lifetime value amidst area-specifi...
Expanding Customer Lifetime 17.11.2022 15:08
Note: The names in the video are swapped. The first guest shown is Chris Harold and the second is Tommy Chambers. The Property Management Show is back with Marie Tepman and Brittany Stephens from Fourandhalf, and today we’re talking about customer lifetime value . When we think about customer lifetime value, the biggest variable that comes to mind is the length of time a customer stays with your...
Customer Lifetime Insights and Marketing with Marie 03.11.2022 14:47
Customer Lifetime Insights and Marketing Let me ask you a question. When was the last time you made a big purchase? Imagine you realize that you need a new car. What would you do next? If you’re like most people, you would probably head over to Google or your preferred search engine. What would you type in that search bar? What results would you get back? Most of us would get some ads on top and t...
Customer Analytics with Aurelie Lemmens 20.10.2022 26:00
Customer Analytics with Aurelie Lemmens Today’s guest on The Property Management Show is Aurelie Lemmens, an Associate Professor of Marketing at the Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University in The Netherlands, and Academic Director of the Expert Practice on Customer Analytics at the Erasmus Center for Data Analytics. Dr. Lemmens is an expert on the topic of customer churn and has written...
How to Deal with Owner Churn 06.10.2022 31:12
Welcome back to The Property Management Show. If you joined us on Part 1 of this podcast with Ray Hespen, you learned about why it’s important for property management business owners to pay attention to churn. You need to do more than pay attention – you need to measure it. We’re back to talk about how you can prevent owners from leaving in the first place. Measuring Owner Churn If you’re no...
What Factors Affect Owner Churn? with Ray Hespen 22.09.2022 29:54
On The Property Management Show today, we’re talking with Ray Hespen, who has been here before to talk about maintenance, data, his company PropertyMeld , and the dangers of ghost maintenance requests. Today, we asked him to discuss what some of his recent data has been telling him about customer churn in the property management industry. How Can We Describe Owner Churn? When we think about churn,...
Why Customer Churn is a Silent Killer with Daniel Craig 08.09.2022 35:29
Daniel Craig on Why Customer Churn is a Silent Killer Daniel Craig from ProfitCoach is joining us on The Property Management Show today to discuss the problem of churn and the value of retention. Walk down memory lane with us for a bit, and you’ll remember that Daniel’s first benchmarking study led to the NARPM Accounting Standards and a new focus on property management profitability . On our podc...
Podcast Sneak Peek: Owner Churn with Ray Hespen 08.08.2022 2:06
Meet Ray Hespen! He is the CEO and Co-founder of Property Meld. You might recognize him if you attended PM Grow Summit 2022, where he spoke about maintenance as an owner retention tool. He’ll be on the podcast talking about Owner Churn. The post Podcast Sneak Peek: Owner Churn with Ray Hespen appeared first on Fourandhalf Marketing Agency for Property Managers .
Podcast Sneak Peek: Customer Churn with Aurelie Lemmens 04.08.2022 2:48
Meet Aurelie Lemmens! She is the Academic Director of the Expert Practice on Customer Analytics at the Erasmus Center for Data Analytics in The Netherlands. She’ll be on the podcast talking about Customer Churn. Check out the video for a sneak peek of our interview with her. The post Podcast Sneak Peek: Customer Churn with Aurelie Lemmens appeared first on Fourandhalf Marketing Agency for Pr...
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