The Progression Project

Cliffy and Erik break down the design and testing process for the Evolution foils that just released. They discuss how the design game has changed in the last two years, what precision is now needed in the prototype process and how UniFoil changed their process to accurately test more refined foils, and the addition of an F1 areo engineer to the team for CFD analysis.

Ziggy Alberts is an Australian musician and lifelong waterman with a love foiling and twin-fins. In this episode we explore the relationship between music and surfing, the feelings foiling and playing huge crowds, tour life, foil board design, foil design evolution and so much more. For those of you who haven't heard Ziggy's music, I've included a personal favorite song, Runaway, right after the i...

Zeke Lau (@zekelau) is a professional surfer from Hawaii. He's a 2x Sunset Pro champ and won the US Open of Surfing and The Ultimate Surfer. In 2018 Zeke started prone foiling and then this year he's taken on downwind. This is a wide ranging conversation covering the struggles of the dw journey, differences in flow states between surfing and foiling and competition, his approach to learning and wh...

Edo Tanas (@whoedo) is the current world champ in downwind foiling winning both the M2O and M2M this year. This episode is an inside look at what creates a champion, his olympic wind surfing goals, transition to foiling, spending his teen years in Hong Kong, and his move to Hawaii.

Andrew Sayre is a Hood River based foiler who describes himself as jack of all trades, professional at none. From Rhode Island, a sailor, surfer and backcountry skier who made his way to the Gorge via an extended stint in Jackson Hole, he now calls Hood River home. A KT team rider and SUP foiling addict, he logs 200+ days on the water with the local group of riders all pushing the sport forward. O...

Cash Berzolla is an 18-year-old waterman from Maui who is currently leading progression in wing foiling. He's recently released "Cash" a short film showcasing his foiling in South Africa. In this podcast we discuss his early start in surfing, approach to learning and progression, the J-Bay experiment and filming Cash and his new found love of music. Enjoy!

Living legend Dave Kalama returns to discuss his current mindset, how downwind as a sport is progressing, how good ideas can be missed, the evolution of design and his battle to love high aspect foils.

Steve Tobis returns to discuss the race scene in maui and the upcoming M2M and M20, foil design and testing we've been doing with UniFoil, board design trends and training for downwind.

Charles Dasher, also known as Dasher (@dasherfilms), runs a wing foil camp in Bonaire. With a lifelong passion for chasing wind, he has a background in windsurfing and is an early adopter of wing foiling. He is also a videographer.

Josh Waitzkin embodies this podcast's core themes of living a life guided by passion, deliberate practice and the art of learning, in fact, he actually wrote the book on it. Josh is an 8x US Chess Champion 2x, Tai Chi Push Hands World Champion, and a Brazilian Jui Jitzu Black Belt under Marcelo Garcia. He was the first guest on this podcast and is a dear friend and training/thought partner. He rar...

Albert Matheny (@promix) is the founder of Promix Nutrition and the Soho Strength Lab. He comes on the show to discuss the specific nutrition and training demands for foiling. Albert holds a Master of Science degree in Human Performance, Bachelor of Science degrees in Exercise Physiology and Food Science/Human Nutrition, and is licensed as a Registered Dietitian. Albert was an athlete at the Unive...

Stacy Peralta (@stacyperalta) is a pioneer in skateboarding but defines himself as a surfer... one who is now foil brained! Stacy recounts his journey from professional athlete, to team manager, how he spotted and nurtured talent like Tony Hawk, why he moved on from stakeboarding into film making, his anti-mentors, and maybe the best definition of flow states I've yet heard. This episode is a pers...

Armie Armstrong is the founder of Armstrong Foils and has been at the forefront of foil design and innovation from the early days. This is a wide ranging conversation, from the design process changes that lead to the new HA line, to recounting the struggles of getting their first foils to market. Enjoy

130 - Paul Cooper by Erik Antonson

Greg is a waterman, engineer and co-founder of Omen Foils. He spent 9 years in the Canadian Military including 4 years in the Special Forces, eventually moving to the coast to pursue his dream of advancing kitesurfing through science and engineering. Greg started working with Ocean Rodeo as the lead on the project which has become known as Aluula Composites. Greg comes on the show to discuss his m...

Josh Ku comes on to talk about some big changes in his foiling life and his recent dive into foildrive and hybrid foiling. Josh is legend and I couldn't be more stoked for him! No intro on this podcast, but it was recorded a few weeks ago so I hadn't ridden the drive yet when we recorded.

Pedigo and Erik dive into the last 6 months of foiling... Florida's bad winter, surf pro's entry to the game, the Midlength revolution and scary moments in an airplane.

Dominic Hoskyns (@dominichoskyns) is the head of FoilDrive Europe. He's a full-on foil frother who pioneered the ladder start to pump and wake thieving. He's recently taken the leap from being a high school teacher to join FoilDrive. Enjoy.

Simeon (@simboogy) and Kahi (@instakahi) come on the show to announce the Voyager Downwind Camps happening this summer on Oahu and talk all things foiling.

Jason Breen (@jasonthejaw) was hit by a humpback whale while wing foiling in Australia. You've seen the clips, but now hear the whole story, the media frenzy, and what it takes to process an encounter of that magnitude.

Matt Davies (@hazmatt1976) is an Australian waterman laying siege to the world records of big wave and flatwater speed on foil. We discuss what foils do as you get over 35mph, how he tunes his gear, his approach to safety and why he's on this mission.

Oskar Johansson (@oskar_foil) has skyrocketed to the top of the foil world. He holds the record for time on foil in the surf, is a consistent top finisher in downwind races, and one of the best prone and tow. Enjoy!

Balz Müller (@radiculo) is a Swiss waterman who has been at the forefront of wing foiling since its inception. While his impressive riding skills are what initially set him apart, it's his infectious enthusiasm and positive mentality that make him a true standout. In this episode, Balz delves into the creative process behind developing new maneuvers, highlighting the importance of dedication and v...

Steve Tobis is a Maui-based waterman who's all about downwind racing and pushing the limits of foil surfing. When he's not sending he's building jet skis for heavy water and designing foil-related gear. With a background in mechanical engineering, he brings a precision-focused approach to the world of foiling

Jeremy Wilmotte (@oceanpixels) returns to recount his trips to Hood River and Namotu, where he saved a life, and his recent move to Armstrong Foils. Jeremy sends it as hard as anyone in the sport and is constantly pushing the boundaries of what's possible on foil, especially in heavy surf.