Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission
The PERColator Podcast
The PERColator podcast, hosted by the Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission, is a space where negotiation theory meets practice. The podcast will explore different themes related to collective bargaining and works to broaden the tools and resources the parties can use in that process to resolve conflicts and enhance labor-management relationships.
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Jun 23, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 27: Hot Topics in Labor Law: A Conversation with Jennifer Abruzzo and Mike Sellars 14.02.2023 1:00:15
Hear insights from Jennifer Abruzzo, General Counsel of the NLRB and Mike Sellars, Executive Director of the Washington PERC on some of the main labor law topics of the day. References: General Counsel Memos NLRB.gov PERC.wa.gov
Episode 26: Is Negotiations Like Chess? 17.01.2023 23:28
A conversations with PERC's Loyd Willaford about how negotiations is and is not like the game of chess. References: How Life Imitates Chess: Making the Right Moves, from the Board to the Boardroom by Garry Kasparov | Goodreads The Art of Negotiation: How to Improvise Agreement in a Chaotic World by Michael A. Wheeler | Goodreads
Episode 25: The State Bargaining Process and the Summer of 2022 20.12.2022 31:34
A chat with three negotiators, who were at the table this summer in the latest round of bargaining between Washington State and its bargaining units. Find out how state bargaining works, what were the major themes this recent cycle, and what we can learn from the state tables about negotiation theory.
Episode 24: Labor Reads with Marjorie Wittner 22.11.2022 32:19
A chat with Marjorie Wittner, the Chair of the Massachusetts Commonwealth Employment Relations Board, about labor relations and conflict resolution related books and popular culture. Good Labor Reads
Episode 23: PERColator Profile with Eric Nordlof 08.11.2022 29:07
Welcome to the next in our series of PERColator Profiles where we get to know an experienced labor relations professional. Today, we profile Eric Nordlof, who shares his experience as a union lawyer, employer-side labor relations consultant, and author.
Episode 22: Public Sector Labor Negotiations and Private Sector Labor Law 11.10.2022 22:23
Join special guest Amanda Clark, a shareholder with the Asher, Gittler & D’Alba, Ltd., a labor and employment law firm in Chicago and explore how understanding the National Labor Relations Act and private sector labor law benefits state and local public sector labor negotiators.
Episode 21: The Power of Apologies in Bargaining with Guest Myla Hite 13.09.2022 37:46
Join us as we explore what makes a good apology and how they can help make you a more effective negotiator while building better relationships with your labor partners. References: Why do people sue doctors? Apologies and Good Lawyering
Episode 20: PERColator Profile with Sue Bauman 30.08.2022 27:56
Welcome to the inaugural PERColator Profile! Where we get to know an experienced labor-relations professional. Today, we profile Sue Bauman who joins us to share her experience as a teacher, union leader, lawyer, elected official and labor neutral.
Episode 19: Emotions at the Bargaining Table, The Core Concerns Approach 16.08.2022 22:56
This episode details the Core Concerns Approach, a method for constructively addressing emotions at the bargaining table. Reference: Beyond Reason: Using Emotions as You Negotiate The Five Core Concerns Approach Infographic
Episode 18: Bargaining in the Age of High Inflation 02.08.2022 30:06
A panel discussion concerning how negotiators are confronting CPI amounts at historic levels and how that is impacting the bargaining process. Special Guests: Debbie Brookman, Sarah Lorenzini and Shannon Phillips
Episode 17: Liberating Structures with Guest Tom Melancon 19.07.2022 17:35
A chat with guest Tom Melançon, Strategy Officer at the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, about Liberating Structures. Liberating Structures are facilitation tools that may help negotiators in bargaining, within teams, or to improve conversations. Reference: Liberating Structures
Episode 16: ALRA Advocates' Day with Guest Sarah Cudahy 05.07.2022 21:58
Meet special guest Sarah Cudahy of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service and learn about ALRA’s program for Advocates' Day at the virtual conference being held July 25. Association of Labor Relations Agencies Twitter @laboragencies ALRA Conference Registration & Agenda Economist Jim Stanford, Director of the Centre for Future Work, Twitter @jimbostanford Federal Mediation and...
Episode 15: The Spaces We Bargain - Part 3 21.06.2022 42:04
A review of both the pros and cons of different bargaining forums, from online to in-person negotiations. References: A.K. Schneider & S. McCarthy,“Choosing Among Modes of Communication” Noam Ebner,“Negotiating via Email”
Episode 14: The Spaces We Bargain - Part 2 07.06.2022 21:44
A discussion of different criteria and questions that parties may pose in considering the merits of different bargaining forums. References: A.K. Schneider & S. McCarthy,“Choosing Among Modes of Communication” Noam Ebner,“Negotiating via Email”
Episode 13: The Spaces We Bargain - Part 1 24.05.2022 19:29
Taking stock of the world of negotiations in 2022, this episode explores the different forums now available to conduct negotiations.
Episode 12: The Extended Mind – Part 3 10.05.2022 18:42
This is Part 3 of a three-part interview with science writer Annie Murphy Paul, author of The Extended Mind. References: The Extended Mind
Episode 11: The Extended Mind – Part 2 26.04.2022 18:30
This is Part 2 of a three-part interview with science writer Annie Murphy Paul, author of The Extended Mind. References: The Extended Mind
Episode 10: The Extended Mind – Part 1 12.04.2022 23:38
This is Part 1 of a three-part interview with science writer Annie Murphy Paul, author of The Extended Mind. References: The Extended Mind
Episode 9: Northwest LERA 2022 31.03.2022 14:02
Join us for this bonus episode highlighting the work of the PERC Negotiation Project at this year's Northwest LERA conference. References: NW LERA Conference Agenda & Registration Human Element Difficult Conversations
Episode 8: Determining Bargaining Intent 29.03.2022 22:31
This episode examines the problem of determining contract intent and offers some practical tools parties may utilize to clarify and document bargaining intent. References: Keeping Track of The Action Management Housekeeping Proposal Union Work Rule Proposal
Episode 7: Interest Based Bargaining (IBB) 15.03.2022 25:20
Explore interested based bargaining, or IBB, a collaborative tool for contract negotiations. References: Interest-Based Problem Solving
Episode 6: Interests 01.03.2022 26:43
An exploration of what interests are, how to discover them, and how they can help in your negotiations. References: Interests Video Questions to Uncover Interests Video Carrie Menkel-Meadow, "The structure of problem solving"
Episode 5: The Bargaining Table 15.02.2022 18:16
How paying attention to the bargaining table setup can change the dynamic in your negotiation for the better?
Episode 4: Small Talk 01.02.2022 23:28
How can setting a positive tone through small talk be a bridge to success in your negotiations?
Episode 3: The Bargaining Room 18.01.2022 25:53
How can the physical space in which you bargain help set you up for success or serve as an impediment to resolving your next negotiation?
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