Lynette Wong & Shann Biglione
The Overthinkers
From big strategy questions to everyday marketing life realities, The Overthinkers is a weekly conversation between two strategists: Lynette Wong (Brand consultant and ex-Head of Strategy at Ogilvy NY) and Shann Biglione (co-founder and product lead + ex CSO at Publicis). It is for those who like to (over)think about business, marketing and strategic planning, with delightful guests occasionally joining. PS: you might have followed us of heard of us when the podcast was co-hosted by Rachel Mercer! She will keep joining us occasionally, as we continue overthinking with Lynette and Shann. Availa...
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Nov 3, 2026
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Episodes
Is AI Going To Kill Your Marketing Job? 29.04.2026 23:36
Anthropic's latest report says 65% of marketing tasks are headed for AI replacement — making us the fifth most disrupted profession out of 800. Lynette came in hot with a confession: she literally built her own AI replacement in her last role at Ogilvy. Shann came in skeptical of the "AI won't replace you, someone using AI will" line — and called it, diplomatically, a bit of a myth. We get into wh...
How To Transition Out Of An Advertising Career? With Rachel and Lynette 22.04.2026 39:42
Nearly 200 episodes in, The Overthinkers is turning a page. This is Rachel Mercer's final episode as co-host — and the debut of Lynette, a former global strategy lead at Ogilvy, ethnographic researcher, insect farm co-founder, and current Vermont transplant who consults for small businesses at what she calls her "community rate" (sometimes paid in sausage). To mark the moment, the three of us tack...
When Do You Say "Enough"? With Rob Campbell 16.04.2026 46:01
This wonderful episode was recorded over a year ago with the legendary Rob Campbell, CSO at Colenso in Auckland. Rachel and Shann were planning to publish this as part of a last series of guests, but for a variety of reasons couldn't get to it. Together with Rob, they explore what satiety can look and feel like in a project (or your career). It ventures into some very personal stories for our gues...
Can 1st Party Data Save Digital Advertising? 20.09.2023 24:34
With the demise of the cookie monster and the supreme reign of a few internet giants, a lot of brands placed their bets on building first party data. Is that really the way of the future, and can brands sustainably grow without a strong 1st party data strategy anymore?
Are CMOs A Dying Breed? 12.09.2023 22:02
“You’re Dead In 18 Months Or Less” - Scott Galloway's ominous predictions for CMOs last week brought about a slight disturbance in the force. In this episode, we discuss the argument made against CMOs as we know them, as well as arguments for their possible redemption.
Can We Stop The Industry From Advertising Fossil Fuel Companies? With Joe Cole 29.08.2023 43:38
As global consciousness of the world's climate challenges rises, the role of advertising is being increasingly scrutinized. With large fossil fuel companies still using our services to project a greener image, the reality is that decades of deception have made them questionable clients to support. In an effort to stop the support provided by advertising to the industry, Clean Creatives has been ra...
Can Social Media Platforms Outlive The Generation That Defined Them? 22.08.2023 22:48
Social Media platforms are often put on the map by (young) generations, but ageing with them seems to prove a difficult exercise. Does that generational gap make it harder, and what might allow them more trans-generational success?
Is Strategy A Creative Or Rational Process? 15.08.2023 21:55
Strategic planning inevitably requires the ability to rationalize information, but does great strategy require the ability to think creatively about it?
How Would You Launch A New Agency Today? 08.08.2023 25:15
If you had to launch an agency from scratch today, how would you do it? What strategy or approach would you use? How would you stand out from competitors? Would you try to stay small and niche, or try to create the next WPP? This week's question is courtesy of listener Ian Barnard.
Is Rebranding Ever A Good Idea? With Jessica Lehmann Ash 01.08.2023 43:23
On the heels of Twitter's catastrophic rebranding, we are joined by Co:Collective's Snr Strategy Director, Jessica Lehmann Ash, to discuss not only what went wrong there, but how and when to potentially get it right. Rebranding (or even renaming) should never be taken lightly, often costing valuable equity to companies, but as you'll hear on this episode, it doesn't mean there aren't valuable mome...
Can Marketers Be Good At All Forms Of Advertising? 18.07.2023 21:00
Brand, performance, social, programmatic, CRM, influencer, sponsoring, media, creative... There is a myriad of specialties in the world of advertising, and marketers are increasingly expected to be able to navigate any of them. Is it possible for them to be good at both the long and the short of it?
Threads Is Out... So What? With Grace Freeman 11.07.2023 41:12
Threads has taken the world of social media by storm last week, growing in ways we'd never seen before. To discuss the platform's launch, its impact on marketers (and on Meta's product teams!), we're joined by Grace Freeman, Strategy Director and social media expert at Barbarian. The chance to share our hopes and fears for a platform that is breaking all sorts of records.
Is Barbie Revolutionizing Movie Marketing? With Moshe Isaacian 04.07.2023 41:54
Barbie has been taking the film industry by storm - and the marketing community has noticed! This week we're joined by Moshe Isaacian, Brand Strategist, to talk about what's great about this campaign, and how it may rekindle a flame that has been somewhat lost in entertainment marketing.
Does Advertising Even Work At All? 27.06.2023 19:56
A couple of years ago, Freakonomics discussed research that show zero to negative correlation between advertising and market effects. Apparently, marketers have been wasting all this money for nothing. During this episode, Rachel and Shann discuss the merits of the findings, and whether it approached the question in a way that does (or does not) capture the value of advertising for brands.
How Can Young Marketers Find Their Voice Alongside Veterans? With John Lyons 20.06.2023 39:02
Between the loud voices of our industry and the stress of being judged for what you say, finding your voice on public forums can be intimidating for younger marketers. We're joined by John Lyons, Business Director at Gasp! to discuss how new voices can emerge, whether it be on their own or the support of more seasoned marketers.
Who put client services in charge?! With Marina Biglione 13.06.2023 40:46
We often talk about strategy and creative, yet client services are often the ones running the show and taking the top leadership position. To discuss what it takes to be an account leader, and whether it's right for them to take those business leadership roles, we are joined by Marina Biglione, Managing Director at Ogilvy NY.
Can Ad Agencies Still Build Differentiated Cultures? 06.06.2023 23:17
As talent ebbs and flows in incestuous fashion between agencies that are increasingly large in size and geographic footprint, establishing an agency culture seems like a rare oddity. How are agency cultures established, and how can they be built in this day and age?
Have The Rules Of Loyalty Changed? 31.05.2023 22:11
The debate over acquisition vs loyalty has rocked the marketing industry over the past 10 years. While loyalty is everywhere, how it is managed has raised a lot of question. But as we see the rise of digital ecosystems, are the rules changing?
Ad-Supported Or Subscription Model, Which Will Win? 23.05.2023 18:33
For a while, subscription models were all the rage. Now, ad-supported is making a comeback. Is one better than the other, and what considerations should businesses take before going for one or the other (or, both)?
How Is Generative AI Impacting Advertising? 09.05.2023 24:46
Generative AI is this year's buzzword. But unlike those who preceded it, the applications are wide and many, capturing a lot of people's imagination. This week, we discuss how the technology might change the way we work and do business in the world of advertising.
Is Parenting Compatible With A Career In Advertising? 02.05.2023 24:50
Advertising is increasingly a young person's game. Are the hardships of parenting one of the reasons why? And could advertising agencies approach this differently? Rachel and Shann share their thoughts as two new parents facing the reality of mother and fatherhood.
Will Calls To Boycott Hurt Bud Light? 25.04.2023 25:54
Bud Light experienced pretty severe backlash after putting the face of influencer Dylan Mulvaney on its cans (and on TikTok). As the brand tried to explore its new identity away from what it called "fratty humor", did they make a strategic mistake or were they just not prepared enough for what happened afterwards?
Are Marketers More Prone To Grifters? 18.04.2023 24:11
Snake oil salesmen, grifters, poseurs... There doesn't seem to be a shortage of people abusing our aspiration for what's shiny and new and our disdain for what's established ("everything has changed! Listen to my miracle solution!"). Is that really an issue in marketing, and are we, as a profession, more prone to it?
What Went Wrong With Twitter Blue? 11.04.2023 21:16
Twitter Blue has not been the success Elon Musk needed to defend the value of the social media giant - at least not yet. What has been plaguing it, and does it have a path forward?
If Change Is A Constant, Why Do Most Transformations Fail? 21.03.2023 19:51
We know how important business transformation is in consulting circles - it's on everyone's lips and every 10K filling. Considering how much change happens around us, it seems it would be a natural state of being, and yet, most times it's just a failure. Why is it so hard to transform when change is the norm? Note: apologies for Shann's audio track, it seems something went a little wrong during th...
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