Doug and Drew
The Next Trip - An Aviation and Travel Podcast
The Next Trip is a weekly, internationally acclaimed podcast with aviation insiders Doug and Drew, who together bring more than 40 years of industry experience as a professional pilot and a hub operations manager at a major airline. Join them, and their frequent guests, as they create a network for other AvGeeks and travel enthusiasts to obsess about all things aviation. Doug and Drew discuss today’s aviation news, share personal operational stories, regale listeners with trip reviews, and engage in friendly AvGeek banter. All thoughts and opinions are their own. Visit us at www.nexttripnetwor...
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Jul 6, 2026
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Boarding Pass 319: Superpower 12.01.2026 53:57
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from another transpacific flight to Taipei and Drew conducted airport movement area training for firefighters. This will will be the first episode we’ve taped in 2026 and we’re officially on a (takeoff) roll! We discuss: How good were our 2025 predictions? Military action in Venezuela disrupts Caribbean flights Avelo reduces flying and staff Alaska orders over 100 air...
Boarding Pass 318: A Fresh Start 05.01.2026 57:33
Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew look back at our travel for 2025 with friend of the show and world traveler, Ian. We discuss: Global roundup for 2025 (most delayed airlines and busiest routes) Jetway jesus Gate allocation Listener feedback 2026 look-ahead Join the Network! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
Extra Section 5: Oscar Munoz 30.12.2025 1:02:36
Send us Fan Mail Aired on December 29, 2025 Doug and Drew are taking a week off. Enjoy this class episode from August 15, 2023 with Oscar Munoz of United Airlines. Doug and Drew interview Oscar Munoz, recent CEO and Chairman of United Airlines. Oscar talks about how he turned around a major US airline and put it on a path to success. We talk about his new book “Turnaround Time” which chronicles h...
Boarding Pass 317: Spirit's Holiday Lifeline and other Christmas Gifts 22.12.2025 1:00:24
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from Auckland and Denver and Drew is managing the busy pre-Christmas rush. We discuss: Christmas passenger traffic US government admits fault in January midair collision near DC Spirit Airlines gets a lifeline Barry Biffle is out as CEO of Frontier An update on the 737-7 and 737-10 US Customs Preclearance in foreign countries Listener comments Join the Network! Links...
Boarding Pass 316: Boeing Goes In-House 15.12.2025 58:18
Send us Fan Mail Doug trains new pilots on touch and go landings in the KC46 and Drew is preparing for a Winter Ops event. We discuss: More Airline Lounges for the new golden age of travel India’s Indigo airlines struggles under new pilot rest rules FAA administrator’s conflict of interest Boeing buys back Spirit AeroSystems California’s 79th Air Refueling Squadron Listener comments Join The Netw...
Boarding Pass 315: Record Breaking Travel... Again 08.12.2025 52:17
Send us Fan Mail Drew is back from 3 days in Dublin and Doug is back from Osaka. Drew just had his first airport winter ops event. We discuss: Our travels Early season snow Thanksgiving travel numbers and 2026 travel trends Unexpected growth at a major airport Impact of the government shutdown comes into focus The FAA is investigating airlines after the shutdown Listener feedback Join The Networ...
Boarding Pass 314: The Golden Age of Travel Starts With You 01.12.2025 43:28
Send us Fan Mail Doug is celebrating Thanksgiving weekend in Chicago and Drew managed to escape from work in time for Thanksgiving dinner in Richmond. How does Doug plan on getting home on the busiest travel day and how does Drew plan to get to Ireland for Christmas Markets?. We discuss: Airbus A320 ELAC emergency software update New Pacific Airlines shuts down The Boeing 767 lives on with new or...
Boarding Pass 313: Dubai Airshow 24.11.2025 1:00:02
Send us Fan Mail Doug tapes during another trip to Taipei and Drew finishes his airport scavenger hunt. We discuss: Orders pour in from Dubai Airbus teases a new model An Alaska pilot is sentenced from his 2023 fire handle incident Update on UPS 2976 Aircraft lights Listener feedback Join the network! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
Boarding Pass 312: Aviation Recovers 17.11.2025 49:30
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from London and Drew lost a fight with a windsock. We discuss our weeks in flight and airport ops as well as the latest aviation news: Aurora Borealis wows pilots and passengers Government shutdown ends and aviation recovers 2 airlines serving the UK, Eastern Airways and Blue Islands, shut down FAA extends MD11 grounding to its predecessor, the DC10 Windsocks - what...
Boarding Pass 311: UPS 2976 10.11.2025 1:00:37
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from Taipei and Drew has a busy week at airport ops. We discuss: More nonrev adventures Thanksgiving travel numbers and a way too early weather forecast More government shutdown issues impacting aviation Security scare in DC UPS Flight 2976 Engine failures Links from this episode: Doug’s Taipei whisky tasting place: Style Liquor and Whisky FAA MD11 Emergency Airwort...
Boarding Pass 310: Hawaiian (Airlines) Sunset 03.11.2025 55:03
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from a whirlwind nonrev trip to Germany with his dad. We remember the history of Hawaiian Airlines as its airline code and operating certificate are laid to rest. We discuss: Doug and Dale’s amazing, and fast, nonrev adventure Good bye Hawaiian Airlines Creeping 777-9 certification delays ATC controllers not getting paid as shutdown drags on The COMAC 919 gains tract...
Boarding Pass 309: Weather Balloons 27.10.2025 1:01:12
Send us Fan Mail Drew is back from a weekend in Quebec City and Doug is preparing for a nonrev adventure with his dad. We discuss: Birds on approach path Travelers Aid people are interesting Engine shortages EK9788 - ACT Airlines 747-400BCF crash in Hong Kong American Airlines 3rd quarter numbers United flight 1093 severely damaged at 36,000ft What are weather balloons? Listener feedback Join Th...
Boarding Pass 308: PanAm 20.10.2025 53:13
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from his narrow body style trip to NYC and Hawaii, via Denver, and Drew is loving runway inspections between flights (literally) and helping lost pigeons in the terminal. We discuss: A Pan Am rebirth? Boeing delivery news Another U.S. airline posts great Q3 numbers Lots of great contributor feedback Join The Network! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
Boarding Pass 307: FAA Staffing and Aircraft Maintenance Checks 13.10.2025 58:01
Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew are back from trips over the Pacific to Taipei and Honolulu. Our buddy Patrick returns to the show to talk about dragging aircraft around the airport and Drew around Oahu on a packed 2-day trip. We discuss: Getting to Taiwan around a typhoon Nonreving to Hawaii and back Questions on moving aircraft The government shutdown starts affecting ATC United announces 6 new r...
Boarding Pass 306: Boeing's New Design 06.10.2025 45:40
Send us Fan Mail Drew has to check the runway after a bird strike report and Doug is getting ready to go back to Taipei. We discuss: Passengers grabbing bags in emergencies No more PLAYtime Lufthansa Group announces long-haul fleet plans Amsterdam backtracks on fee hikes Big, BIG news from Boeing Runway lights Join The Network! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
Boarding Pass 305: Big Cans on Narrow Bodies 29.09.2025 51:54
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from flying the 777 to Frankfurt and Drew finished his first week on PM shift in airport operations. Fresh croissants from Germany, elevators out of service, runway inspections, and 767 crew resource management - this episode is packed!. We discuss: Winter schedule routes Spirit lays off 1,800 flight attendants The Embraer E2 gets more love - this time from LATAM Hug...
Boarding Pass 304: Future of ULCCs and Southwest First Class 22.09.2025 59:06
Send us Fan Mail Drew escorts a 737 and Doug is back from Zurich and New York. We discuss: The difference between the airport operations area and the movement area Helping an AvGeek with trip routing An update on Southwest’s long-haul ambitions Delta/AeroMexico joint venture in jeopardy Is the ultra low-cost airline model dead? Join The Network! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
Boarding Pass 303: The Embraer 195 "E2" Gets Some Love 15.09.2025 1:04:09
Send us Fan Mail Doug is back from Amsterdam and Drew is done with airport ops manager training. We discuss: Airport Restrooms Top 10 airports according to AirHelp The Embraer 195-E2 finally gets some love What is a sterile cockpit? EMAS to the rescue again…and again Aircraft type retirements and pilot assignments Contributor comments Join the Network! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
Boarding Pass 302: Cockpit Barriers, Westjet 787s, and Lost Baggage 08.09.2025 57:51
Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew fight sleep deprivation after late night and overnight shifts, respectively. Doug was on late night 767 simulator training flights and Drew was watching overnight airport ops in DC. We stay awake to discuss: Remembering 9/11 New cockpit barriers coming to an airline near you Spirit’s second bankruptcy Another big Boeing order Delta settles a lawsuit A checked bag...
Boarding Pass 301: Open Aviation Jobs 01.09.2025 59:44
Send us Fan Mail Happy Labor Day to all the aviation workers for getting where we need to be, safely, this summer. Doug and Drew talk about their aviation work weeks including Doug’s trip to Tokyo and Drew going back to airport ops midnight shift. We discuss: Aviation job opportunities Korean Air orders 103 Boeing planes Frontier encroaches on struggling Spirit routes What is an airline focus cit...
Boarding Pass 300: Vote on Delta's New Route 25.08.2025 54:01
Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew talk about their exciting (not by choice) flights home on standby during a busy week. Drew also does his airfield runway inspections solo and is free to roam about the airport. Doug is back from his old love-hate work destination - London. We discuss: Celebrating our 300th episode! Passengers sue Delta and United Southwest finally admits it has hubs Air Canada resume...
Boarding Pass 299: Air Canada Winds Down 18.08.2025 58:06
Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew are doing their final summer nonrev trips which promise to be exciting - not in a good way. We discuss: Who is Chester, the eskimo on the Alaska tails? Is Atmos the name of Alaska/Hawaiian’s new frequent flier program? Is it the name of a combined airline (Drew, calm down) Hawaiian cancels the current longest US domestic flight Spirit says it may have to shut down i...
Boarding Pass 298: Alaska Airlines Modernizes 11.08.2025 1:04:40
Send us Fan Mail Drew responds to a bird strike and gets to learn more about snarge - it ain’t pretty. Doug is living a nonrev drama trying to get his family home from Denver. Both of us live vicariously through Drew’s husband Robbie who is flying to Turkey. We discuss: How are the travel numbers looking so far this summer? Alaska announces a big change How some of the smaller airlines are doing...
Boarding Pass 297: DCA NTSB Hearing Takeaways 04.08.2025 1:04:58
Send us Fan Mail Doug is with family in Colorado after just making it there and Drew is having to change from airline radio lingo to airport lingo. Its, “roger”… copy? We condense days of NTSB hearings on the DCA crash into 3 main takeaways. Also on this episode: So long SeatGuru! Blue Sky gets the Green Light American Airlines finds a new partner More bad news at Spirit DCA crash NTSB hearings up...
Boarding Pass 296: Barcelona and Bozeman 28.07.2025 59:57
Send us Fan Mail Drew is back from tubing, hiking, and a road trip between Denver and Montana and Doug is back from his new commuter station - Barcelona. We discuss: European LCCs Update on the JejuAir crash Southwest sets a date for its major changes American’s Q2 results Major airspace closures Listener feedback Join the conversation! https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/
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