Doug and Drew

The Next Trip - An Aviation and Travel Podcast

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The Next Trip is a weekly, internationally acclaimed podcast with aviation insiders Doug and Drew, who together bring more than 40 years of industry experience as a professional pilot and a hub operations manager at a major airline. Join them, and their frequent guests, as they create a network for other AvGeeks and travel enthusiasts to obsess about all things aviation. Doug and Drew discuss today’s aviation news, share personal operational stories, regale listeners with trip reviews, and engage in friendly AvGeek banter. All thoughts and opinions are their own. Visit us at www.nexttripnetwor...

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Doug and Drew

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Leisure

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www.nexttripnetwork.com

Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Boarding Pass 095: The Guppy Mill and LAX Dorkfest 20.09.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode Doug and Drew discuss: Doug getting his 737 certification Drew caters HNL with schnitzel and strudel? Drew's routing to Dorkfest  LAX traffic volumes rising  Sustainable fuels are coming  JFK or LAX, what's better for spotting  Join the conversation at: https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/ https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

Boarding Pass 094: Bold Predictions 13.09.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode we discuss: Doug getting his 737 type rating  Neeleman and his non-737 airline Breeze 787 deliveries delayed due to FAA inspections  Ryanair walks away from 737 Max order American and Alaska end pay protections for unvaxed staff  Next Trip air travel volume predictions https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/ https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

Boarding Pass 093: Upset Recoveries 06.09.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Doug and Drew discuss the following:  Upset recoveries  AvGeek bubble baths in Burlingame, CA  Airports named after a city they're not located in (or near) Cargo CRJ-200 Philippine Airlines bankruptcy Gulfstream's new G700 Grounded PW4000 powered 777s are getting new paint - hopefully flying soon Would you rather fly the first 777 delivered or a swanky n...

Boarding Pass 092: Welcome to America 30.08.2021

Send us Fan Mail In this episode we discuss: Afghanistan CRAF charters  Will holograms replace travel? Escape Lounges opening  Southwest running it hard Ryanair traffic and leaving Belfast  https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/ https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

Boarding Pass 091: CRAF, USTRANSCOM, AMC & ACARS 23.08.2021

Send us Fan Mail Topics discussed on this episode: ACARS air to ground communications  ITA replaces Alitalia  CRAF is activated to move US citizens and Afghans out of Kabul Doug and Drew on how to get into an aviation career You know you work for an airline when... https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/ https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

Boarding Pass 090: World's Top Airports 16.08.2021

Send us Fan Mail Drew continues to run the operation hard this week while Doug flies the 737 simulator and takes a 777 joy ride to visit Houston which was voted the top US airport.   Topics discussed:  Load factors are decreasing to more sustainable/manageable levels 737 landings More jumpseating and more chicken orzo Delta variant is hurting Southwest's bookings Business travel slowly reboun...

Boarding Pass 089: Jumpseats, Meltdowns, and Fort Myers? 09.08.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Doug and Drew discuss the following: Doug's jumpseat observation rides Newark, NJ as a destination Nonrev troubles Spirit and American cancel thousands of flights United to require vaccinations for all employees GE CF-6 engine celebrates 50 years Listener feedback Join the conversation  https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/ https://www.nexttripnetwork.com/

Boarding Pass 088: Fat Little Ugly Fellow? 02.08.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Doug and Drew discuss the following topics: Managerial training (Drew lets someone else drive the bus for a few days) Doug is leaving the 737 aka Guppy/FLUF/Whistling Sh!tcan already?! Checking to see if you were listening Ironman is back at LAX Western U.S. fuel shortage Condor replaces its aging 767s Airbus launches the A350 freighter Would you take a middle sea...

Boarding Pass 087: Southern Comfort 26.07.2021

Send us Fan Mail Doug jumps out of a plane (or a mockup of one) and Drew avgeeks with previous Next Trip guest Matt this weekend. A commemorative coin from Matt celebrating Piedmont Airlines is an inspiration for our topics today.  On this episode, Doug and Drew discuss: Experiencing an airplane escape slide Cocktails, Thai food,  and A319s Billionaires in Space World airline rankings Positive qua...

Boarding Pass 086: Same Day Service 20.07.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Doug and Drew discuss the following: Why the episode is late (and why it might continue to be late in the future now) Pilot shortage and why it matters Doug's new job and why that relates to late episodes (and possibly extra sections - BONUS eps!) Listener engagement Airlines need LOTS of new employees Electric regional props? Airlines now turning a profit......

Boarding Pass 085: Dust Storm! 12.07.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Doug and Drew discuss the following: Doug's last week as a "civilian" Drew's flights to PHX Listener Ian's multiple "round the world" flights Airliners International trade show Lufthansa brings back all of its routes Singapore positions itself for regional dominance Flying into a sandstorm Be sure to check out www.nexttripnetwork...

Boarding Pass 084: Jailbreak! 05.07.2021

Send us Fan Mail Jailbreak? Yes, from COVID19 and cabin fever. Americans are well into revenge travel with TSA numbers higher than pre-pandemic 2019 levels last week. Europe joined the exodus recently and international flights are resuming with heavy passenger bookings. Doug and Drew will be doing their own trips with Doug going to training in Denver for his new pilot job and Drew heading to Phoen...

Boarding Pass 083: Airliners International 28.06.2021

Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew’s AvGeek credentials are vetted on this episode as we welcome card-carrying AvGeek Chris Slimmer. Chris organizes the upcoming Airliners International Conference, the largest airline collectibles show in the country! He regales us with his stories of jumpseating on the Concorde and many other amazing aviation stories over the last several decades. Plus he gives us hi...

Boarding Pass 082: Are you Ready for Single-Pilot Cockpits? 21.06.2021

Send us Fan Mail Are you ready for single pilot flightdecks? Cathay Pacific and Airbus are working on a project that may make it a reality.  Doug describes pilot workload on a long range flight and if this may be feasible. We discuss your thoughts and ours from a spreadsheet and human perspective.  Other topics on this episode: Happy 50th birthday Southwest! The Boeing 737 Max10 takes flight Emira...

Boarding Pass 081: Jack of All Trades Chooses Aviation 14.06.2021

Send us Fan Mail We welcome Drew’s buddy and coworker Steven, who’s worked as a photographer, bartender, electrician, etc…, before choosing Aviation as his career. We talk about Steven’s path to the airlines and how he’s worked his way from customer service agent to operations manager and to now developing tools to help us run the airline better. Steven is also an avid traveler and gives us some g...

Boarding Pass 080: Moving Fast 07.06.2021

Send us Fan Mail On this episode, Doug and Drew begin by laughing about turbulence definitions. Have you ever felt "definite strain" against your seatbelt? If so, you've experienced moderate "chop!" They also discuss the following topics: U.S. downgrades Mexico's safety rating Airbus eyes quicker recovery than analysts predict United places order for supersonic airlin...

Boarding Pass 079: Cabin Etiquette and Exclusive Waitlists 31.05.2021

Send us Fan Mail Our fringe AvGeek buddy and airline brat, Matt, joins us again to rant (and rave) about Milk Runs of yore, airplane nicknames, and cabin etiquette.  Doug is getting ready for his last flight at his current job and we hope touch and go’s in Reno are on the flight plan. Drew and Matt talk about the crazy busy airports this week and how it seems like a normal start to the summer trav...

Boarding Pass 078: The Travel Surge is HERE 24.05.2021

Send us Fan Mail We’ve been saying for over a year that we are “one week closer to this crisis being over,” and here we are - at least in the US. Passenger volumes are back with a vengeance as Americans crowd airports and head to leisure destinations after enduring COVID cabin fever.  Doug regales us with his fabulous last business trip at his current job. Spoiler alert, he won’t get miles at his...

Boarding Pass 077: Cathay Pacific Senior VP Americas, Chris van den Hooven 17.05.2021

Send us Fan Mail Cathay Pacific Senior VP Americas, Chris van den Hooven, joins us to talk about how his airline is managing through the pandemic. Travel to Hong Kong, Cathay’s base, is still depressed due to international travel restrictions. Chris explains how the the airline is leaning on cargo, mainland China flights, and a few international routes in the interim. Doug and Drew confirm Chris’...

Northern fLights Extra Section 13.05.2021

Send us Fan Mail Doug and Drew and over a dozen of our AMAZING listeners attended the first Northern fLights event in Anchorage! Listen to our recap of the Alaska Airlines milk run (flight 65) from Seattle to Anchorage via Ketchikan, Wrangell, Petersburg, and Juneau. Plus, we talk about the main event - spotting late into the night at one of the busiest cargo hubs in the world.  https://www.nexttr...

Boarding Pass 076: On the Road Again! 10.05.2021

Send us Fan Mail Aired on May 10, 2021 Doug and Drew are on the way to Alaska and their Northern fLights listener meet-up. We stop at an LAX lounge to tape this week's episode. Sorry not sorry for the ambient airport noises and both of us interrupting the taping when a 777 lands. Topics discussed  Passenger volume increases  The age of premium economy? Airlines refer unruly passengers to the...

Boarding Pass 075: The Aviation 03.05.2021

Send us Fan Mail Aired on May 3, 2021 Doug and Drew are joined by Andy, a former airline employee and  lifelong fringe avgeek who also makes a mean Aviation (the drink).  Will our Old Fashioned’s be replaced by Aviations as our signature Next Trip cocktail? Andy and Drew reminisce about their final 747 flight and then Doug regales us with his white knuckle touch and go landings in the DC10 simulat...

Boarding Pass 074: Next Trip Crystal Ball 26.04.2021

Send us Fan Mail Aired on April 25, 2021 Doug and Drew looked into our Avgeek cyrstal ball a year ago and forecast that we’d be at 75% of 2019 capacity by the summer of 2020. American Airlines announced that they would be at 80% this summer so we were close! Not so much on our forecast of travel bubbles which look to be overtaken by “Green” destinations.  Topics covered: EVA Air repaints its Hello...

Boarding Pass 073: Tail Strikes and Go Arounds 20.04.2021

Send us Fan Mail Doug is on his way home from DC where he met Drew at work for the first time. We talk about the visit as well as Doug flying Southwest and experiencing a “violent” go-around in Denver. We get way too AvGeeky on tail strikes and tail skids and we have some details on our trip to Alaska in May.  Other topics on this episode: Is Southwest an LCC (low cost carrier)? The continued rise...

Boarding Pass 072: Low-Cost Long-Haul... It's Bound to (Finally) Succeed, Right? 12.04.2021

Send us Fan Mail Aired on April 12, 2021 Will Norse Atlantic succeed where Norwegian didn’t with the same planes and leadership? Doug and Drew discuss low cost long haul and ideas to create a succeesful business model with a product attractive to business travelers. Doug is on a another business trip of his own on the episode but we take a moment to talk about how we would use expiring frequent fl...

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