Charles Weaver
The MSP Zone
Weekly discussion of news, events, and topics of interest to the global managed services professional community. The series will have the latest and most relevant discussions in managed services and cloud computing, featuring special guests and notable figures in the profession.
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Jun 22, 2026
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Episodes
From Reactive to Proactive: A Simplified Model for Client Transformation 04.03.2024 13:44
For a lot of MSPs, trying to convert reactive (i.e., break/fix) clients into proactive (managed services) clients can be a struggle. No matter how hard you try, those reactive clients just won't budge. Fortunately, there is a pretty effective technique you can use to begin to impress upon your reactive clientele all the benefits and reasons they would be better off as a managed services client...
Does EBITDA Matter for MSPs? 29.02.2024 14:19
Ep 276 - The term EBITDA is not something a lot of MSPs fullly understand or use regularly. As a financial tool, it is worth knowing how it is used and why. But, should you use EBITDA as a metric for managing your MSP practice? Maybe, maybe not. To answer this question, we must define EBITDA, look at how it is used within general accounting, and more specifically how it is used within MSP M&A...
The Great MSP Reset 29.02.2024 11:35
Recently, at the MSPAlliance Inspire meeting, I witnessed something I've never seen before, something I'm now calling the "great MSP reset." This reset is an accumulation of several different things happening at roughly the same time and I think it bodes well for the future of the managed services profession. Here's what I witnessed. MSPs are going through significant equity...
Revenue Categorization: Why it Matters to MSPs 20.02.2024 16:24
A lot of MSPs spend the majority of their time focused on revenue growth, and for good reason. If you're not growing, you're shrinking. But, not all revenue is the same. In fact, some revenue types may actually be harming your managed services growth. Confused? Don't be. There are some really simple metrics you can use to begin aligning your MSP practice towards a pro-growth future. ...
My advice for a growing MSP - Ep 274 14.02.2024 34:14
Recently, one of our members reached out with some questions about how to achieve growth while simultaneously addressing a sizeable break/fix client base. It's a really good question and one that I know a lot of MSPs face. First, acknowledge that break/fix customers inhibit managed services growth Second, have a plan to migrate those break/fix customers to managed services plans Third, execute...
What's in store for MSPs in 2024 30.01.2024 28:13
It's that time of year again. Time to review the past year and look to the future and predict what is likely to happen. The MSP world is changing more rapidly than ever before. Let's take a look at what 2024 has in store for the MSP profession. Ransomware Responses Changing: MSPs (and customers) have to look at ransomware in a very different way in 2024. As numerous governments worldwi...
Unmanaged vs Managed IT 02.01.2024 39:14
MSPs vs Vendor Controlled Remote Access The FBI advisory to private sector industries was released and raises some interesting questions regarding MSPs. While not specifically mentioning MSPs by name, the advisory covers general threats from ransomware and how they are being executed. Doesn't mention MSPs, but they are clearly being addressed in this notice 3rd parties and legitimate system to...
Can MSPs be more proactive? Ep 271 18.12.2023 41:43
The end of Ransomware? You may have seen some news lately about the US government working with other governments to ban ransomware payments. Well, I'm not so sure it will stop ransomware but it is an interesting topic and something we should discuss. Banning ransomware; what impact would it have? Government bans on ransomware payments will change how MSPs "manage" those clients Priva...
There is No Recession in Managed Services Ep 270 12.12.2023 32:14
There is no recession in managed services You may be watching the economic news out there and thinking to yourself, how will this impact my managed services business. It’s a good question to ask. Economic indicators seem to be pointing to some form of recession or slowdown (some call it a soft landing) in the near future. For all we know we might already be in a recession. But, does a recession...
Analysis of a Cyber Attack - Ep 269 13.11.2023 35:37
In this riveting podcast episode, join us as we delve deep into the intricate landscape of recent high-profile cyber-attacks that have sent shockwaves through the digital realm. Our seasoned guests, Shannon Wilkinson, the CEO of Tego Cyber, and Brent Watkins, the Director of Business Development at Tego Cyber, step into the MSP Zone to unravel the layers of these incidents, providing invaluable an...
Managed Services Opportunities around CMMC Ep 268 24.10.2023 32:28
How are MSPs dealing with CMMC? John Burgess, from Mainstream Technologies drops into the MSP Zone to discuss how MSPs should deal with the changes coming from CMMC, but how they can stay ahead of them as well. Regardless of where you stand on the issue, having something to say about compliance is a wise thing these days. MSPs with exposure to CMMC have a lot of revenue and trust potential, if th...
Poor MSP Growth May Not be Due to Lack of Sales Ep 267 16.10.2023 38:01
Poor MSP Growth May Not be Due to Lack of Sales Many times, I hear MSPs complain about their stagnant or lack of growth. Now, regardless of whether you have a sales team and process or if you predominantly rely on referrals, lack of growth can frequently be caused by two general issues: inefficient process, and lack of customer focus. Limited service catalog Defined customers With these two elemen...
MSP Zone Spotlight on Halo PSA - Ep 266 12.10.2023 29:21
About a year ago I started to hear MSPs talk about a new company, Halo PSA. It turns out, this company is not new, but they are doing some rather innovative things in the MSP ticketing space and being somewhat disruptive. So, we decided to reach out and invite Tim Bowers, CEO of Halo PSA to join the MSP Zone and talk about his company and what they are doing. Highlights: What is Halo PSA? Origins...
MSP Zone Spotlight - Travis Springer Ep 265 02.10.2023 29:57
In this MSP Zone spotlight Travis Spring, vice president of Sagiss, joins us to share his thoughts on the MSP market. We discuss a wide range of topics, from economics, labor, technical, AI, and other business issues which impact all MSPs. Economy and its impact on managed services The impact of AI on MSPs Are MSPs using AI? Labor challenges facing MSPs
Control Frameworks: Which is right for you? Ep 264 20.09.2023 39:14
Modern lead generation is a racket I receive a lot of "lead generation" cold calls and emails. When I say these solicitations are horribly bad, I am being generous. MSPs get hit up all the time to create or expand their cold calling efforts and if these same groups are soliciting them, this is crazy. Does cold calling really work for MSPs? Cold calling vs Inbound lead generation MSP content must b...
Is MSP Growth Exaggerated? Ep 263 13.09.2023 51:43
MSP Growth Exaggerated? Canalys is doing some great work in analyzing managed services. Long overdue. Disproportionate # of MSPs actually producing revenue. Hardware/software influence (more on this in the next segment) Do MSPs Impact Hardware Sales? I recently saw someone promoting a webinar on the topic of MSPs increasing hardware sales, and it caught my eye. It's not a typical subject we see...
MSPs Cautiously Optimistic about AI - Ep 262 30.08.2023 31:06
Out of the Box MSSPs This story came to us from one of our friends, Brent Watkins. At first, I thought it was a joke, but upon a second look, it wasn't. Completely serious promo from a security vendor…become an MSSP in 1 day! Unbelievable? I assure you it is not (the claim, not actually becoming an MSSP in a single day). Talk to any legitimate MSP out there and they'll tell you being an MSP take...
SEC Adopts Cyber Disclosure Rule - Ep 261 22.08.2023 45:02
SEC Adopts Cyber Disclosure Rule The securities and exchange commission recently made news with an announcement of their cybersecurity disclosure rule. While this isn't the first governmental agency to announce such a rule, it should confirm to every MSP on the planet the direction in which we are headed and offer plenty of guidance for handling privacy and security incidents. SEC rule explained P...
Is it better to be cyber secure or cyber resilient? 08.08.2023 37:46
Is it better to be cyber secure or cyber resilient? If you think this is a trick question, it isn't. There are many who believe that security is solely a matter of defense. While defensive measure are crucial to any MSP (or their customers), preparing for eventual attacks which are successful, is also crucial. So, what is an MSP to do? Here are some simple measures every MSP ought to be doing ri...
Ep 259 - MSP Innovation: Why it matters 31.07.2023 40:08
I often hear MSPs talk about innovation: but what does that mean? To get one answer, I invited an MSP CEO to join me in a conversation about the innovation that goes into being an MSP, and the impact such innovation has on the business and customers. I was able to do just that when Jimmy Puckett, CEO of SPINEN, entered the MSP Zone. Being innovative does mean customers need to come along for the r...
Ep 258 - The MSP Generation Divide 18.07.2023 34:49
The MSP Generation Divide Time changes everything. That certainly seems like an appropriate saying when examining the managed services profession. MSPs seem to be getting younger and younger every year. Or maybe we are just getting older. The point is, the generational divide amongst MSP professionals is increasing. We have older and younger members of our profession, and a lot of knowledge must b...
Ep 257: What do PE Firms Want from MSPs? 11.07.2023 50:05
What do PE Firms Want from MSPs? For the last several years MSPs have been courted by private equity firms desperate to enter the managed services space. At the risk of being obvious, what do private equity (PE) firms want from their MSP investments? It's an important question and knowing the answer can help you successfully navigate the process of working with a PE. PE vs other MSP buyers Types o...
Accounting Firms and MSPs, Master Cyber Providers, and MSP Pricing Reality Check 27.06.2023 42:17
Are Accounting Firms Squeezing MSPs? Misunderstanding MSPs in the larger IT channel discussion Why are accounting firms getting into managed services? How does the CPA community impact MSPs moving forward? Could the Master Cyber Provider Model Backfire? Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Truer words were never spoken, particularly in the IT channel. Way back when managed services...
Ep 255: Internal IT vs MSP; MSP Market is still growing; Does size matter in managed services? 20.06.2023 38:44
Internal IT vs MSP Can an MSP do everything an internal IT department can? That is the quintessential question the world has been asking for 30 years. Just because an organization has an internal IT department does not guarantee that it will be efficient. In fact, all IT departments face the same choices as IT service providers: you can be proactive or reactive. Struggles of internal IT Natural ba...
Ep 254 N-able CEO Advises MSPs on Upcoming Challenges; MDS vs MSP; Tightening Credit Markets Create Choices for MSP Channel 09.06.2023 46:15
N-able CEO Advises MSPs on Upcoming Challenges N-able held its partner conference in Prague recently and their CEO had some very interesting comments regarding the economy, compliance, security, and other "challenges" facing MSPs. Headwinds for the rest of the economy are tailwinds for MSPs, if they position themselves correctly Major "business" shift for MSPs This is a very simple adjustment for...
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