Mockingbird
The Mockingcast
The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl, and brought to you by Mockingbird Ministries, an organization which seeks to connect the Christian faith with the realities of everyday life in fresh and down-to-earth ways. You can find out more about Mockingbird at www.mbird.com. Audio production provided by TJ Hester.
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Jun 8, 2026
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Episode 121: Cradles, Quarterbacks, and the Angel of Death 02.02.2018 38:39
Sarah, RJ and Dave talk football , motivation and self-improvement before consulting the NY Times on what suffering people really want. Also, Sarah airs her distaste for the term "Cradle Episcopalian" .
Episode 120: Humblebragging about Aziz and Atonement 19.01.2018 42:54
After not-so-humbly bragging about themselves, RJ, Sarah and Dave dive into the Aziz Ansari / #MeToo headlines, which leads into a discussion of their favorite atonement models. Also, RJ sings highlights from The Little Mermaid.
Episode 119: A New Year, Some Good Books, and an Old Church 05.01.2018 33:38
Sitting in for vacationing RJ this week, Dr. Todd Brewer joins David and Sarah to talk about the top theology book(s) of 2017, as well as hopes and fears for the new year. Together they try to answer the question, "what is church for?" Please note: we had some technical issues on this episode, which sadly made a good portion of Todd's track unusable - he had a lot of wonderful things to say!
Episode 118: Tis Better To Receive Than to Give? 15.12.2017 41:39
In our second episode after the hiatus, RJ, Sarah & Dave talk about Persistent Pirates, U2, Facebook Guilt, Exercise Cults, and Christmas. To read the review of U2's new record, click here . To watch/listen to Chamath Palihapitiya's interview about the fallout of social media, click here .[Minutes 20-30 are the most relevant.] To read Zan Romanoff's article about The Consumerist Church of Fitn...
Episode 117: The Mockingcast Rides Again! 01.12.2017 40:08
Our first "proper" episode in eight months(!), David and Sarah are joined by new co-host RJ Heijmen, as they talk Disneyland, church types, sexual harassment, male libido, Advent, and the difference between justice and revenge. Click here to read the McSweeney's list. Click here to read Stephen Marche's article about Male Libido (and David's commentary on it. Click here to read Abby Farson Pratt's...
Episode 116: Prayer and Affliction: Martin Luther on the Spiritual Roots of Theological Insight - Simeon Zahl 28.11.2017 21:18
Delivered at the 2017 American Academy of Religion conference (AARSBL) in Boston, MA on Nov. 19, 2017.
Episode 115: Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners (in the Work of John Bunyan) - Dan Horn 26.11.2017 47:29
Delivered November 19th, 2017 at All Souls Anglican Church in Wheaton, IL.
Episode 114: Grace in Luther - Matthew Milliner 26.11.2017 52:51
Delivered on October 15th, 2017 at All Souls Anglican Church in Wheaton, IL.
Episode 113: Closing Q&A with Nick Lannon, Sarah Condon, Jacob Smith and David Zahl 10.11.2017 32:46
Closing question and answer session on Saturday afternoon, October 28th, 2017, with four of the speakers at our "500 Years of Grace" event All Saints Episcopal Church in Chevy Chase, MD.
Episode 112: Can't Stop the Signal: Enduring Hope for Divided Times - David Zahl 10.11.2017 44:54
David addresses the crowd on Saturday morning, October 28th, 2017, at our "500 Years of Grace" event All Saints Episcopal Church in Chevy Chase, MD.
Episode 111: Grace, Race, and the KKK - Daryl Davis 10.11.2017 1:02:40
Daryl addresses the crowd on Saturday morning, October 28th, 2017, at our "500 Years of Grace" event All Saints Episcopal Church in Chevy Chase, MD. ( www.daryldavis.com )
Episode 110: When Katie Met Luther: A New Kind of Love - Sarah Condon 10.11.2017 26:45
Sarah addresses the crowd on Saturday morning, October 28th, 2017, at our "500 Years of Grace" event All Saints Episcopal Church in Chevy Chase, MD.
Episode 109: Robert Barnes and 500 Years of Justification by Grace Alone - Jacob Smith 10.11.2017 29:35
Jacob addresses the crowd on Saturday morning, October 28th, 2017, at our "500 Years of Grace" event All Saints Episcopal Church in Chevy Chase, MD.
Episode 108: Devotion on Ezekiel 47:1-10 - Adam Morton 09.11.2017 7:38
Adam opens the second day (October 28, 2017) of our "500 Years of Grace" event All Saints Episcopal Church in Chevy Chase, MD.
Episode 107: No, Actually I Don't Work Out - Nick Lannon 06.11.2017 44:11
Nick opens Mockingbird's "500 Years of Grace" Event in DC.
Episode 106: Freedom in Christ, or, How We Can Do What You Do on the Dance Floor 01.08.2017 9:30
Drew discusses how Christ keeps our feet moving.
Episode 105: Liars and Madmen and You: The Art of Narrative - CJ Green 26.07.2017 35:58
Most people will recognize Stephen King’s It as the one about the killer clown. Which it is. But at 1100 pages, it has to be more than that, you know? In his dedication King writes: “Fiction is the truth inside the lie”—which, I’ll admit, I still don’t fully get—but that’s nevertheless a good place to begin investigating one of It’s running themes: extracting the truth from the lies, particularly...
Episode 104: Exploring the Oddball World of Leftfield Christian Music 1973-87, Pt. 2 - John Zahl 17.07.2017 1:00:29
At last year’s NY Conference we mined deep, but there’s a ton more to share. In this breakout, we will continue to explore the world of obscure Christian funk and electronic music from yesteryear. We will learn about why early Christian hip-hop floundered so after its inception (hint: the reason is theological). And we’ll remember how radical it is to introduce a Moog into your worship band, in 19...
Episode 103: The Word of the Cross - Jim McNeely 10.07.2017 1:00:18
The time for the most wondrous conference – the Mockingbird NYC spring conference – has rolled around again, and the powers-that-be have condescended to let me come and do a breakout session! I’m going to talk about a book I’ve been writing for 3 years now called “The Word of the Cross.” I’m very excited about this material! The Cross is our Solution? The Corinthian church was a mess. There were d...
Episode 102: How to Have (Just) One God - Adam Morton 03.07.2017 41:30
Perhaps the most basic piece of information about the Christian faith — so basic that in the West it is more assumed than taught, even to the unchurched — is that there is one God. We don’t have to think much about this. When somebody says they are religious, we assume that they believe in one God and not many. People might ask, “Do you believe in God?” or say, “I don’t believe in God,” but the qu...
Episode 101: Saving Paul From the Academy - Todd Brewer 30.06.2017 34:46
“The Academy” is a term used by both insiders and outsiders to speak about the world of biblical scholarship. It is a term meant to ascribe prestige and importance to one’s profession and life work. To be a card-carrying member of “the guild” – to use another term of esteem – is to be part of an elite club of professionals trapped by the perpetual need to justify their significance. But to most pe...
Episode 100: Greetings From the Upside Down - Stephanie Phillips 20.06.2017 27:08
Kendall Jenner once said, “The ache for home lives in all of us, the safe place where we can go as we are and not be questioned.” Just kidding! It was Maya Angelou who said that. But now that I have your attention, do you agree? Because I’ve had to give this topic A LOT of thought lately. My family was recently uprooted from Atlanta to Sydney, Australia because #grace, and the fallout has been…a b...
Episode 99: The Reformation Today - Jacob Smith 20.06.2017 41:00
This breakout is entitled “The Reformation Today” because “Is the Reformation Over?” has already been taken by everyone writing at First Things or The Gospel Coalition. Also, because at Mockingbird we believe the answer to that question is a resounding “NO.” In order to make my pitch, I believe the shake up at the burger chain Carl’s Jr and Hardee’s has a lot to to say. For seventeen years, Carl’s...
Episode 98: Science is From Mars, Theology is From Venus: Perspectives from Psychology and Faith - Bonnie Poon Zahl and Bethany Sollereder 13.06.2017 47:50
According to the Pew Research Center (see here and here), over half of American adults who were sampled (59%) believe that, in general, science is often in conflict with religion. But “conflict” is only one way of seeing how science and religion might relate. Other possibilities include “independent”, “competition”, “dialogue”, “discussion”, “engagement”, “partnership”, “collaboration”, among othe...
Episode 97: Multiple Marriages to the Same Spouse - Debbie and Ellis Brazeal 13.06.2017 43:17
Nietzsche said that he would only believe in a “God who dances.” As Mockingbird devotees, and survivors of three marriages, Debbie and I have come to believe in a dancing God. Yet, this view of God only came after years, many years, in which we didn’t. A romantic courtship, with breathless excitement and anticipation of an American-dream marriage, quickly turned into a marriage of unmet expectatio...
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