Karen Wong

The Meaning Code

Science EN ↓ 180 episodes

Mapping the universe through discussions about physics, art, economics, philosophy, and more. The search for meaning through connections from one domain of knowledge to another. Finding the code that connects the substructures of the universe. For video recordings of these podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgp_r6WlBwDSJrP43Mz07GQ Find me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/klwong43 View my art here: https://karenwongartcom

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Karen Wong

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Sep 3, 2026

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Episodes

Wolfgang Smith and John Vervaeke: The Perpetual Promise & Inexhaustibleness of Contact with Reality 21.11.2022

John Vervaeke, Wolfgang Smith and Richard Smith begin with a discussion of relativism and what we can do about its negative aspects. Then begins a wide ranging discussion of the tripartite macrocosm and the tripartite microcosm and the overlap between John's work and Wolfgang's work. Many book recommendations included in the timestamps. Fuller bios of Dr. John Vervaeke, Dr. Wolfgang Smith and Dr....

The Physics of Life, Episode 1: A Theoretical Path through Physics and Math 18.11.2022

Karen and Glen in Episode 1 of the series which will explore the question, What is Life? Future episodes will cover Thomas Kuhn and paradigms, Complexity v. Simplicity, Landauer's Principle, and a general overview of the meaning of and interactions between Entropy, Energy and Information. Playlist for all episodes follows notes. Nima Arkani Hamed video: https://youtu.be/5aAMJNVmdoY Hamed is an alp...

Part 2 of the Measurement Problem: Agape as Observer 10.11.2022

Brad and Karen dive deeper into the implications of "measuring up" and the balance between mercy and judgment. For the full YouTube, see here: https://youtu.be/qkDWTKNMI2c We discuss the aspect of comparison, relationships between binaries, Iain McGilchrist's work on the two brain hemispheres, the role of the observer, etc. Link to Part 1 follows the timestamps. Timestamps 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:15...

Jonathan Pageau and Wolfgang Smith: Reductionism v. The Symbolism of the Cross 03.11.2022

Jonathan Pageau joins for a conversation with Dr. Wolfgang Smith and Dr. Richard Smith about icons, symbolism and our connection to the Divine. Links to books and articles mentioned will follow the timestamps. Timestamps 00:00 Opening chitchat 01:20 Intro 05:30 Wolfgang Smith’s Tripartite Cosmos icon 12:00 Jonathan’s question about the icon 20:15 Examples of 3 dimensional versions 28:50 Jonathan’s...

Discovering Origin of Life is the Deepest Scientific Rabbithole 28.10.2022

Perry Marshall, author of Evolution 2.0 and founder of the $10 million price for the origin of a spontaneously arising communication system joins Glen and Karen to discuss the fundamental nature of information, choice and the observer. Links to videos mentioned will follow timestamps. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:45 Origin of Life v. Origin of Species 05:14 Is something missing in the Intelligent De...

A Symphony of Choices Over Time: Reflections on Wolfram's Physics 24.10.2022

Karen and Glen get together for an informal review of items that have recently caught their attention relative to Stephen Wolfram's Theory of Fundamental Physics. If anyone wants to do a comment with timestamps, I will be forever grateful. At the end, Glen mentions John Walton and his reading of the first few chapters of Genesis. We talked about how great it would be to see a conversation between...

The Observer in Physics, Part 3: Science Needs a Covenant between Truth and Language 21.10.2022

In Part 3 of this discussion regarding the role of the observer, Glen weaves together ideas of robust computing (demon horde sort) and distributed intelligence. He makes the claim that it could be mathematically verified whether or not computation is fundamental, and that if it turns out to be so, then language is also fundamental, since computation and language are inextricably intertwined. We al...

Discussing the Pageau Brothers and the Symbols of Love and Sacrifice 15.10.2022

If you want to watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZUOiF0tljiw Sevilla King of A Quality Existence joins the Meaning Code to discuss recent appearances by Jonathan and Matthieu Pageau. We look at Mercy and Judgment, gathering in and cutting away. Judgment as a type of discernment, measurement, paring down, producing fittedness. Mercy as a gathering together, care, attention, choosing....

Margaret Allen, author of Gracious Living: Creating a Culture of Honor 06.10.2022

For Youtube version: https://youtu.be/G8cAwts0ZZg Margaret Allen tells her story of being raised in an aggressively atheist household and yet learning of the better way, and opens her heart about the process of writing her book. Lot of resources available on Margaret's website, https://margaretallen.org Be sure to look at the page of Declarations. A great encouragement! Gracious Living: Creating a...

Part 1 of the Measurement Problem: The Ideal as a Judge, Gauge Blocks and the Requirement to Measure Up to The Master 29.09.2022

Brad Bilski, a designer of testing equipment, joins The Meaning Code for a discussion of the measurement problem and the need for a covenant between language and truth. Timestamps 00:00 Intro (reading from Paul Feyerabend's 1975 book, Against Method 04:00 Can facts exist outside of a narrative? A response to John Vervaeke 11:25 Gauge block: "We call it a Master." ANSI 19:45 Calibrations differ; er...

Michael Levin and John Vervaeke, Part 2 - Free Will, Constraints and Causal Relevance 27.09.2022

A meeting of two great minds moving from considerations of choice and agency to free will and wisdom. Books and authors mentioned follow timestamps. Timestamps 00:00 Intro 03:30 Decision making and competent behavior do not imply high level cognition 05:20 The value of higher levels is context-dependent 06:30 Be careful not to all into patterns that lead to collectivism 07:07 Composite agents harn...

Drewsicology on Music: the Artform of Time Par Excellence 22.09.2022

Drew is a music teacher at the International School in Tunis in Northern Africa. With a Master's in Ethnomusicology, Drew is able to consider music as an art form within and across cultures, considering the harmonious interplay of patterns and the musicality of intelligibility. We hear Drew's life story and then consider various aspects of music as communication, music as an aesthetic form and mus...

John Vervaeke & Wolfgang Smith: a Dialogos on Science Grounded in Platonism 15.09.2022

00:00 Intro 03:19 The difference between physical and corporeal, the solution to the quantum enigma 07:25 The corporeal enters into the measurement problem through the measuring device 08:50 John describes relevance realization, the 4 P’s of knowing, emanation and emergence 13:45 Reality is structured with things emerging (returning to the One) and emanating (coming from the One 15:50 If the corpo...

Science Needs a Covenant between Truth and Language: Glen on the Role of the Observer Part 3 09.09.2022

In Part 3 of this discussion regarding the role of the observer, Glen weaves together ideas of robust computing (demon horde sort) and distributed intelligence. He makes the claim that it could be mathematically verified whether or not computation is fundamental, and that if it turns out to be so, then language is also fundamental, since computation and language are inextricably intertwined. We al...

The Role of the Observer Part 2: How the Observer as Computational Entity intersects with Maxwell's Demon and the Demon Horde Sort 02.09.2022

Is the universe fundamentally computational? What is the observer? What is the role of the observer? A deep dive. Timestamps 0:00. Intro 2:00 Analyzing 2 different delayed choice quantum eraser experiments: Kim, et al and John Wheeler (Gedanken) 13:43 We never talk about what the observer is (we need to include the physics of the observer) 14:14 Maxwell's demon and the observer (a sequence of choi...

The Observer in Physics, Part 1: History and Background of the Measurement Problem 25.08.2022

Glen, physicist, mathematician and computer scientist, joins for an exploration of the role of the Observer in Physics. The history of the move from classical to quantum physics. If you want to do some homework before Part 2, links to everything are in the description to the YouTube version of this conversation: https://youtu.be/A5xtyRkp6HE In the world of Alice in Wonderland, the role of the obse...

Mark Solms and Mark Levin on Building an Artificial Consciousness 05.08.2022

For a complete intro of these two guests, see their previous conversation. https://youtu.be/2vYfcotRRjk Timestamps 00:00 Musical Intro Affect is fundamental Unless we can make a conscious machine, we have not solved the hard problem Cognitive systems as predictive of the outside world 02:00 Mark Solms describes his project to create an artificial consciousness 04:15. The quest to find a neural cor...

What is Potential? Jordan Peterson & Chaos, Molinism v. Open Theism, Arminianism, Calvinism, with Shari Suter & Esther O’Reilly 29.07.2022

Is the Path Not Taken visible to God? The narrative of the Garden as it relates to potential. Plan A or Plan B? Does everyone want to be healed? Saved? Looking at Jesus’ work in our lives through the story of Judas. George MacDonald, “Our God is a consuming fire, and His fire is His love.” https://www.amazon.ca/Beautiful-Constraint-Transform-Limitations-Advantages/dp/1118899016 Amazon link https:/...

John Vervaeke and Michael Levin Dialogos on Causal Structures, Consciousness, Platonic forms, and Placebo 26.07.2022

Dr. Michael Levin and Dr. John Vervaeke discuss findings on cognition, consciousness and placebo. Where is the line? Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:30 “How do you define and differentiate cognition, intelligence, consciousness” 05:40 Mike 08:10 Can there be relevance realization at the cellular level? 14:00 The realization of the gradual development from oocyte to adult mind. Amazing plasticity...

Dr. Wolfgang Smith, Eminent Physicist and Philosopher, on Vertical Causation, Irreducible Wholeness and Meaning 19.07.2022

I had the privilege to speak with Dr. Wolfgang Smith about his solution to the Quantum Enigma and the tripartite structure of the cosmos. Great resource on Dr. Smith's work: https://philos-sophia.org/ Author of Vertical Ascent, Ancient Wisdom and Modern Misconceptions, Cosmos and Transcendence: Breaking through the Barrier of Scientistic Belief , The Quantum Enigma: Finding the Hidden Key, Theisti...

God's fidelity, Suffering and Consciousness, Quantum Field Theory with Michael 16.07.2022

There is so much information in pain. The Lord says, "I have engraved you on the palms of my hand." John Stott quote paraphrased, In this world of pain and suffering, I could not believe in a God who had not experienced it for Himself. God is Good and is big enough to make good on His promise. Adam Smith paraphrased, Men want not only to be loved but to be lovely. Brene Brown research on shame. Jo...

Paul Vanderklay & John Vervaeke, God's generosity and the Rest of the Story with Mary Kochan 13.07.2022

Mary and I discuss the conversation John Vervaeke and Paul Vanderklay had re: Paul’s argument from personhood for the existence of God. In the process, we covered some aspects of quantum mechanics, philosophy, theology and the nature of reality. Regarding God's completeness and the essence of potential and actuality, we also looked at Jordan Peterson's theories about order and chaos, value, and th...

Dr. Michael Clarage on Levels, Cosmic Triples, Principles and Meaning in Physics, Chemistry and Biology 11.07.2022

Karen's guest is Dr Michael Clarage who gained his PhD in physics from Brandeis University, studying the biological and statistical behavior of proteins. We discuss the nature of light, the levels of reality, the triples of physics and the electric universe. Links follow the notes: The path of the photon Holograms Complete 3-D maps Particles and their trajectories. The line of time according to Ne...

The Data Compression Lens, Tokens, Propaganda, Information Entropy and Meaning with Michael 09.07.2022

Michael and Karen discuss data compression and cybersecurity as a lens to view language, memory, relationship and consciousness, and in the process stumble upon C. S. Lewis, Jordan Peterson's Maps of Meaning, and Owen Barfield. Propaganda 1) as a false dichotomy 2) as a Zip Bomb or a destroyer of worlds The Mandelbrot Set as a picture of the limits of stability, the border between order and chaos...

Interview with Esther O’Reilly (aka Bethel McGrew): Reality Rules, Boethius, Jordan Peterson and the Heroic Thesis 06.07.2022

Homo Sapiens’ unique heroic thesis according to Jordan Peterson: “The nature of experience can be altered for the better by voluntary alteration of action and thought.” Greg Boyd and Open Theism Boethius, The Consolation of Philosophy Molinism “Reality is that which governs.” Paul VanderKlay Your beliefs are exposed by your behavior. We say one thing and do another, and come up against our own hyp...

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