Chris Barkley & Nicholas Buggs
The MAKE IT Podcast
The MAKE IT podcast salutes the Indie Film Creative. Join us for candid conversations with seasoned pros who share advice, knowledge, and industry insights to fast-track the journey of aspiring film professionals. Discover inspiration and guidance tailored for your cinematic path. Enjoy the journey? Dive deeper at www.themakeitpodcast.com and follow us on Instagram and X @_makeitpodcast.
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Chris Barkley & Nicholas Buggs
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
225 - Indie Film Isn't Bad, But There Are Bad People In It (Indie Talk) 23.11.2021 48:28
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk about the people that give the Indie Film Industry a bad name, how to spot them and stop them, and what it takes to be one of the good guys. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love the MAKE IT Podca...
224 - Chris Haley - Swallow Your Pride, Be The Real You, and Stop Judging Yourself 18.11.2021 1:52:09
Hello, Indie Film Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with the Documentarian, Author, Poet, and Nephew of ‘Roots’ author, Alex Haley, Chris Haley. We talk about John Brown’s place in history, how his life changed after Roots premiered on television, the trials of growing up related to Alex Haley, his documentary ‘Unmarked,’ his poem books ‘Obsessions’ and ‘Until the Right One Comes...
223 - Adam Schartoff - How to Learn from the Greats in Film and the Making of an Indie Film Show Host 09.11.2021 1:14:39
Hello, Indie Film Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with Filmwax Radio and Filmwax TV host Adam Schartoff. We talk about how to keep your cool when you're working with colleagues that are more notable than you, how his career shifted from working at Sony Music to podcasting and film, when and why to start a podcast and the best use of $5K in a film marketing budget. Enjoy! Lis...
222 - How to Get $100K for Your Short Film and What Facebook's Change to Meta Means for Indie Creators (Indie Talk) 02.11.2021 51:34
Hello, Indie Film Creatives! In this edition of Indie Talk, Chris and Nick share a few opinions on the "Rust" saga, Lena Waithe's Hillman Rising Voices Program, should a short cost $100K, and what Facebook's change to Meta means for Indie Creators. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://l...
221 - Alex Schmider - LGBTQ Representation in Film & Media 26.10.2021 1:14:00
Hello, Indie Film Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with Filmmaker and Activist Alex Schmider. We talk about the impact of his Netflix film 'Disclosure' and Hulu film 'Changing the Game,' his work with GLAAD, Hollywood's mythicizing of LGBTQ people, how he funded his films, and how to create a more equitable film set. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questio...
220 - Panel Talk: Knoxville Film Festival 2021 w/ Ava Leigh Stewart (Festival Bonus) 25.10.2021 1:13:53
Hello, Indie Film Creatives! In this special episode, Chris joins fellow filmmaker and Women In Film & Television (WIFT) board member Ava Leigh Stewart on a panel talk at the Knoxville Film Festival. We talk about Network Effect, the power of "Why," the state of Indie Film, and what filmmakers can do to attract investors. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reac...
219 - Bored Apes, Indie NFT's, AppleTV's Secret Strategy, and What Indies Can Learn From The Squid Game (Indie Talk) 20.10.2021 1:04:39
Hello, Indie Film Creatives! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk about the film, television, and gaming future of NFT company Bored Ape Yacht Club, Apple's competitive differentiators, and why they are the most relieved by the IATSE/AMPTP deal, and the data game that Netflix plays with top shows like The Squid Game. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at...
218 - Knox Shelton & Miriam Bale - How to Be a Courageous and Compassionate Filmmaker 12.10.2021 1:23:58
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with the Executive and Artistic Directors of the Indie Memphis Film Festival, Knox Shelton and Miriam Bale. We talk about why Festivals around the country are taking more COVID precautions than theaters and sporting venues, what sacrifices they look for in serious filmmakers, how festivals can create more opportunity and remove barrie...
217 - Alex Ferrari - How to Make Profitable Indie Films as a Filmtrepreneur 05.10.2021 1:16:58
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with Filmmaker, Entrepreneur, and Podcaster Alex Ferrari. In addition to his best-selling books, 'Shooting for the Mob' and 'Rise of the Filmtrepreneur,' we talk about his latest film 'On the Corner of Ego and Desire,' his childhood growing up in Jamaica Queens, NY, where and how he developed his "Hustle...
216 - What It's All About - (Film Investment Series) 03.10.2021 2:26
Hello, Indie Producers & Investors! In this final episode of the Film Investment Series, Chris and Jason talk about when to use your gut and when to use the investment playbook, and why investing in your brand is a win-win, even if you're not profitable. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://li...
215 - Forbidden Festival Knowledge, Addison Rae, and the Irony of the IATSE Protests (Indie Talk) 28.09.2021 55:37
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, Chris and Nick talk about the stacked deck experience for Indie Filmmakers at most Festivals, Addison Rae's Netflix deal and how Indie actors can best respond, and why stronger unions might prevent IATSE members from getting their protest demands. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on so...
214 - Bet on Story, Invest In Founder Filmmakers (Film Investment Series) 26.09.2021 1:33
Hello, Indie Investors and Producers! In this episode, Chris and Jason highlight the importance of all of the "Why Questions" and what they reveal about the temperament of the Founder Filmmaker. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love the MAKE IT Pod...
213 - Lee Abrams - How to Succeed with Great Programming 21.09.2021 1:05:45
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with the Co-Founder of XM Radio and Media Innovator and Legend, Lee Abrams. We discuss why he created the Album-Oriented Rock format for radio, the concept of making people into fans, not users, his latest innovation 'News Movies,' his forthcoming book 'Solutions for a Creatively Starved Planet,' his forthcoming docum...
212 - Helping Your Film Succeed Beyond Investment (Film Investment Series) 19.09.2021 2:31
Hello, Indie Investors and Producers! In this episode, Chris and Jason talk about what investors can do to help their films be financially successful beyond the check you wrote for development. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love the MAKE IT Podcast? Beco...
211 - Scilla Andreen - How to Get Creative, Address Your Audience, and Make Money as a Filmmaker 14.09.2021 1:34:58
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with the Co-Founder and CEO of IndieFlix, Scilla Andreen. We discuss how a chance catering job transformed into a career in film, her time working on the Wonder Years, her platform for Indie Creatives, IndieFlix, her new film 'Race,' her new book 'The Creative Coping Toolkit', and the future of streaming and distributi...
210 - Which Investment Strategy Is Best - Unicorn or Slate (Film Investment Series) 12.09.2021 2:43
Hello, Indie Creatives and Producers! In this episode, Chris and Jason talk about the upsides and risks of investing in a slate versus a single film project and break down the meaning of a Pseudo-Indie Film. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love the MAKE I...
209 - Market Your Film Like Ryan Reynolds (Indie Talk) 07.09.2021 47:50
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this Indie Talk, Chris and Nick talk about the self-directed marketing initiatives deployed by actor Ryan Reynolds on his recently released feature film, 'Free Guy,' the new world of storytelling through tech, and the new "talent stack" in Indie Film. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on...
208 - Trust Games Increase Deal Flow (Film Investment Series) 05.09.2021 2:13
Hello, Indie Investors and Producers! In this episode, Chris and Jason discuss "trust games", examples of trust games, and why they are so invaluable to an investors risk mitigation and deal flow. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love the MAKE IT Po...
207 - Julius Ritter - How To Harness Pain Into Creativity and Appreciate the Filmmaking Journey 31.08.2021 1:07:33
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with former Actor and current Writer and Director, Julius Ritter. We discuss growing up in Hollywood as a bi-racial actor and model, how to harness pain into creative writing, his upcoming film 'Sock And Buskin', Unconscious Bias in Casting, and so much more. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out...
206 - Trust Is An Observance of Patterns (Film Investment Series) 29.08.2021 1:41
Hello, Indie Investors and Producers! In this episode, Chris and Jason discuss trust patterns to look for in your filmmakers and what are the three behaviors and beliefs every investor should employ to be successful. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love t...
205 - DEFYing Expectations In Film - Live From The DEFY Film Festival (Festival Bonus) 28.08.2021 51:50
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this week's episode, Chris is live at the Defy Film Festival where he was tasked with asking one question: How would you define defiant cinema? He also conducts sit-down interviews with filmmakers Jaclyn Bethany (Highway One), Evan Sorlien (Bakersfield), and Christopher Ryan Laughter (Demon Cooler) and many more. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comm...
204 - Jasmine Kenya - How to Harness the Power of Animation To Forge A Better World 24.08.2021 49:33
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, we have a conversation with 2D Animator Jasmine Kenya. We talk about her Netflix short film 'Cops & Robbers', her five-star book 'Hair As Big As My Dreams,' why being likable is better than a strong resume in the short run, why drawing well isn't the most critical factor in a career in Animation, what role creatives play in creating...
203 - Investors Need To Travel To Lower Risk (Film Investment Series) 22.08.2021 1:31
Hello, Indie Investor and Producers! In this episode, Chris and Jason talk about why it's critical to travel to the proximity of your investments and deal flows as an outside investor. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love the MAKE IT Podcast? Become a...
202 - How Theaters Can Thrive After COVID-19 & a PSA on Marvel's Shang-Chi (Indie Talk) 17.08.2021 55:09
Hello, Indie Creatives! In this episode, Executive Producers Chris Barkley and Nick Buggs talk about what the theater business will be like after COVID-19, what else could change forever, and why the Indie Film community shouldn't fall for the Shang-Chi "We are not experiments" issue. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or o...
201 - Why Investors Flock To Film Investment (Film Investment Series) 15.08.2021 2:26
Hello, Indie Investors and Producers! In this episode, Chris and Jason discuss why investments in Film continue to get made despite the high risk and time commitment. Enjoy! Listen+Subscribe+Rate = Love Questions or Comments? Reach out to us at contact@bonsai.film or on social and the web at https://linktr.ee/BonsaiCreative Love Indie Film? Love the MAKE IT Podcast? Become a True Fan! www.bonsai....
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