Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman

The Long and The Short Of It

What do two coaches on opposite sides of the world actually talk about when they think out loud together? For eight years and 400-plus episodes, that has been the whole of The Long and The Short Of It: a weekly conversation for thoughtful leaders, coaches, and creatives who would rather be useful than loud. Pete Shepherd is an Australian leadership coach and the former Head Coach of Seth Godin's altMBA, who has worked with leaders at Google, Toyota, Woolworths, Kraft Heinz and the Australian Navy. Jen Waldman runs her own studio in New York and has coached performers across much of Broadway. E...

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Peter Shepherd & Jen Waldman

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Education

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

35. Experiments 28.05.2019

Pete and Jen riff on framing our work, life and projects as a series of experiments. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: Framing things as experiments Unattaching ourselves from outcomes Reducing friction in our experiments Pete and Jen's Instagram experiment Macro vs micro experiments Follow us on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/thelongandtheshortofitpodcast/ To hear mo...

34. Picking Brains 21.05.2019

Jen picks Pete's brain on why we shouldn't pick brains. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: Why picking someone's brain is hiding Does it require 60min to pick someone's brain? How might we get clarity in what we're seeking Alternatives to picking someone's brain To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thel...

33. Money and Compensation 14.05.2019

Pete dares to bring up everyone's least favo(u)rite topic: money and compensation. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: Why most creatives and freelancers aren't charging enough How we might think about money What is worth? Money as a story How money creates tension To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://th...

32. Seasons 07.05.2019

Pete wraps his brain around Jen's idea of breaking down work into seasons. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: How might we think about our work in seasons? Jen's seasons Create, test, learn Pete's AHA moment To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. To a get in touch, send an...

31. Social Media 30.04.2019

Jen and Pete thrash on the topic of social media. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: What is social media for? Why it's important to think about What it takes to be 'good' at social media How we can best use it To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. To a get in touch, send...

30. Storytelling 23.04.2019

Jen gives Pete a storytelling masterclass. Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about: Why storytelling matters How storytelling applies to our work Jen's golden rules for effective storytelling What to do with said rules To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. To a get in touch, sen...

29. Favo(u)rite Things Revisited 16.04.2019

Jen and Pete discuss some of their favo(u)rite things/resources since the Favo(u)rite Things episode . Specifically, in this episode Pete and Jen talk about their favo(u)rite: Fiction book Non-fiction book Audiobook Podcast Episode Word Video Show To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. To a ge...

28. Night-time Routines 09.04.2019

Jen and Pete discuss the inverse of a Morning Routine: a Night-time Routine. Specifically, in this episode Pete and Jen talk about: What constitutes a night-time routine? How might we think about creating one? Pete's night-time routine Jen's night-time routine What is a night-time routine for? To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website...

27. Reflection Scripts 02.04.2019

Pete and Jen do a Reflection Script on the first six months of The Long and The Short Of It. Specifically, in this episode Pete and Jen talk about: What is a Reflection Script or RS? How might we use them to make our work better? Overall feelings on The Long and The Short Of It Things that have worked well so far Things that can be improved To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn mor...

26. Cold Showers 26.03.2019

Pete recently challenged Jen to take cold showers and the results are surprising. Specifically, in this two part episode Pete and Jen talk about: Why Pete takes cold showers Secrets of living into your 90's Jen's progress, or lack thereof The ideal temperature of a cold shower To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelongan...

25. Holding Space 19.03.2019

Pete relays a story to Jen having been recently reminded of the importance of holding space. Specifically, in this Episode Pete and Jen talk about: What does it mean to hold space? The lamp post effect Active listening Creating generous containers The law of diminishing returns To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelonga...

24. Authenticity vs Integrity 12.03.2019

Jen has a big break through and decides it's worthy of calling Pete by his full name. Specifically, in this Episode Pete and Jen talk about: Seth Godin's latest book: 'This is Marketing' Authenticity Emotional labor Integrity Simon Sinek's Golden Circle To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. T...

23. White Space 05.03.2019

Pete picks Jen's brain after she returns from a writing retreat. Specifically, in this Episode Pete and Jen talk about: Douglas Stone and Sheila Heen's writing retreat Creating white space Seth Godin's thoughts on writing Writing techniques To hear more Episodes, see full transcripts and learn more about Pete and Jen, visit the podcast website https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/. To a get in to...

22. Resumes 26.02.2019

Jen shares a recent rant with Pete that resumes are sunk costs on display. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpo...

21. Ask 19.02.2019

Jen's cappuccino machine sparks a conversation on the importance of asking because "you never know, unless you ask." Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episod...

20. Associative Perception‽ 12.02.2019

Jen coins a new term (in her sleep) and Pete tries to make sense of it. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodca...

19. Self-awareness 05.02.2019

Pete and Jen go on a journey from self-awareness to self-acceptance. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast....

18. Tidying Up 29.01.2019

Jen and Pete decide to unpack Marie Kondo's The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up . Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandt...

17. Sunk Costs 22.01.2019

Jen asks Pete to talk about his recent experience with Sunk Costs. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast.co...

16. Q&A (Live) 15.01.2019

Live Q&A recorded when Jen and Pete were in the same room in NYC. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodcast...

15. Sonder 08.01.2019

Pete decides it's time to do a full episode on one of his favourite concepts: Sonder. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongan...

14. Whiteboarding 01.01.2019

Jen asks Pete to describe his whiteboarding process and thrashing ensues. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpod...

13. Giving and Resolutions 25.12.2018

This week Jen comes prepared with two things to talk to Pete about: The season of giving and resolutions. Happy Holidays! Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes an...

12. Misconceptions (Live!) 18.12.2018

Pete and Jen discuss misconceptions and what happens when we compare ourselves to others (recorded in front of a live audience in NYC). Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to a...

11. Change 11.12.2018

Jen asks Pete for a soap box and decides it's time to talk about change. Website : https://www.thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/ Email : hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com More from us in your inbox. Subscribe to Box O' Goodies . A weekly email with the books, podcasts, quotes, and other noodles Jen and Pete are mulling over. Listen to all episodes and read full transcripts at thelongandtheshortpodc...

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