Harry Jones and MW Welman
The Lekker Rugby Pod!
The ever-curious MW Welman and globetrotting rugby poet Harry Jones explore the people, ideas and moments shaping South African rugby and the world game. From in-depth discussions about the Springboks to detailed match analysis, this podcast offers expert previews and reviews of both local and international matches. We also explore the wider world of rugby, covering everything from player stories to the latest news and trends. Whether you're a seasoned rugby enthusiast or just discovering the sport, there's something here for everyone. Tune in and enjoy engaging conversations that celebrate th
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Harry Jones and MW Welman
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Jun 28, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 19: How the Springboks snatched victory from the jaws of defeat against a determined All Blacks! 02.09.2024 57:05
MW and Harry went to Ellis Park. Listen to their individual experiences of the monumental Springbok Test win over an excellent but ultimately limited All Black team. Some stood up. Some stepped down. The conversation travels through theme and topic and the triumph! Join the growing audience for this deep Bok dive pod! Harry's X (Twitter) account: https://x.com/haribaldijones
Episode 18: Is there a bigger rivalry in rugby? The Springboks take on the All Blacks in a World Cup rematch! 29.08.2024 1:07:27
The most intriguing rivalry in rugby has always been as much about mind games as physical mismatches. With both the Boks and All Blacks turning the page on the 2023 World Cup, the battle at Ellis Park will set the tone. Also, the naming of Aphelele Fassi at fullback creates a dozen key questions: all are explored. MW and Harry fathom what might and could and will happen. Join the growing audience...
Episode 17: The Boks have a full-blown crisis at lock! What will Rassie do? PLUS: Our Springbok squad! 29.08.2024 1:10:36
The old enemy invades Ellis Park with Springbok supremacy on the line. Split the series and the All Blacks leave feeling (too) good. The Boks are better, brainier and faster, but remain underdogs until they show they can handle the mantle of world’s best. A hiccup: lock stocks are battered! Hear Harry reveal inside info to MW real time and the guys ponder with North brain and South madness how to ...
Episode 16: We have a theory why Rassie picked Nico Janse van Rensburg! PLUS: We rate each coach's performance! 23.08.2024 1:17:53
Beyond benches and burpees: what traits make a Bok in Rassie’s world? What is the one thing most valued by coaches like Daan Human and Tony Brown? Which players need to have more caps than their age? Why did Razor cut his attack coach? MW and Harry dig into the Championship thus far and take on the topics nobody else will. Join the growing audience for this deep Bok dive pod!
Episode 15: Why Rassie wants brains as well as brawn in the Springboks! Our Perthfontein deep dive! @Springboks 19.08.2024 1:12:46
Everybody knows the Boks are hard, big, tough and stubborn. But are they now the smartest team in The Rugby Championship? Brainier than the All Blacks? MW and Harry explore these and other rugby heresies on this deep dive review. Join the growing audience for this deep Bok dive pod!
Episode 14: Why Rassie isn't really bothered about the Rugby Championship! PLUS: Perth Preview! @Springboks 15.08.2024 1:09:07
The Springboks have controversially named one of the least capped starting teams in recent memory to maintain their lead in the Rugby Championship. MW and Harry debate how much that championship really matters in Rassie’s grand scheme! Perth will provide a few more answers than Brisbane! Join the growing audience for this deep Bok dive pod!
Episode 13: So what exactly happened? We dive deep into the Springboks v Australia and All Blacks v Pumas games! 12.08.2024 1:09:07
Much hype for Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu and he showed why! But what about that high school third team industrial engineer late bloomer from Maties with the buttoned up jersey and major attitude? MW and Harry dig deep into one of the best Bok blindside run on debuts in history, and also cover Razor’s sharp pain in Wellington caused by the Pumas’ claws. Visit Harry's X (Twitter) account here: ht...
Episode 12: Your BLOCKBUSTER preview of the Springbok/Wallabies Test! It's the Rugby Championship! 08.08.2024 1:04:29
Wondering who’s who and what’s what in the Wallabies as the Springboks try to lift the Brisbane curse? MW asked Harry all the questions he could about the matchup, lineups, philosophies, rivalry, and what is at stake for Sacha and the boys!
Episode 11: The Springboks need to dominate this Rugby Championship! Or do they? MW and Harry cross swords! 05.08.2024 1:09:01
Springbok fans want it all: blood new players like the lekkerbacks to mesh with 75-cap veteran winners so we win every World Cup but also stay on top by using continuity and finally win a bloody Rugby Championship with 1000 caps in first and second XVs! MW and Harry debate how Rassie & Co may approach the rest of this year, when and how Siya Kolisi and Willie le Roux will ride into the sunset,...
Episode 10: What is wily Rassie Erasmus cooking up at the Springboks? 04.08.2024 47:52
Success is intoxicating. But it holds risks: where can Rassie go next? What kind of empire can he build? What sport offers a model? MW and Harry explore gridiron analogies and the mental games coaches play.
Episode 9: Can we really say Antoine Dupont is the Rugby GOAT? Is he even the greatest scrumhalf we've seen? 02.08.2024 34:19
How do we know a GOAT? When can we see it? What’s the basis? Is it technical or in service of a team style? How many GOATs are in action at one time? Is rugby conducive to GOATism? Join rugby skeptics MW and Harry as they delve deeper.
Episode 8: Is Sacha now ahead of Manie in the pecking order? Is there really depth to the Springboks? 24.07.2024 1:08:22
How deep is the Boks' depth? Join MW and Harry as they ponder how a runaway 10-try win in Bloemfontein reveals true Test qualities. The precise Pretorian and the wayward Capetonian measure the merit of (mostly hyphenated) players and come up with quite a few surprises!
Episode 7: Outsmarted And Outplayed: How Ireland Stunned South Africa! 18.07.2024 55:44
Bok business is still unfinished. No tries at Kings Park for the Tony Brown attack scheme and a series of calamities ended in last minute heartbreak for Saffa fans desperate to shush resilient Ireland. MW Welman and Harry Jones take all the sentiment out of it and weigh how bad it was, what should have been done, and what can be done next.
Episode 6: Rassie's Boks unveil a brand spanking new style with Tony Brown, but is it really Springbok rugby? 08.07.2024 1:02:03
Episode 6: Time to reflect after a weekend of helter skelter Test Rugby action! MW and Harry review the major internationals, and do a deep dive into the Springboks' new game plan. Is it working, will it continue to work, and most importantly, is it really Springbok rugby? Read Harry's article on Saturday's test here: https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/07/08/s-t-just-got-real-inside-rugby...
Episode 5: It's war! Is Rassie in their heads already or will Ireland simply shrug off his needling? 01.07.2024 1:04:00
MW and Harry rip into rectification (SA-Ireland), recreation (France-Argentina), revenge (Wales-Australia) and a rectal exam (England-New Zealand). They differ most on the last one: MW sees a Pom upset; whilst Harry thinks the All Blacks will horse collar the Sweet Chariot. Plus, the final installment of the Harry Index. Jump into Test rugby and hear about the first Lekker Rugby Pod event ever!
Episode 4: Bulls beaten at Loftus, Boks thumping Wales and the penultimate Harry's Index! 25.06.2024 1:04:34
MW and Harry talk about lekkerbacks - those uniquely South African scrumcapped swivelhipped pintsized wing who keep coming. But thoroughly dissect the unlekker Bulls’ miserable second half in the URC final. A deep dive. Also up for discussion is the Springboks whipping Wales at Twickenham and the penultimate Harry's Index where the best club team in the world will be crowned next week after th...
Episode 3: From how wily Jake played everyone like a fiddle to Boks for the Wales test! 17.06.2024 1:03:23
Podcasts can keep you sane after your team loses. But when your team wins, podcasts are just the right amount of fanatic insanity. The Bulls knocked off mighty Test-laden Leinster and the sober Pretorian MW Welman cannot hide his giddy glee. Stormers tragic Harry Jones joins MW to break down every facet on how this famous victory happened.
Episode 2: Is Manie still the favourite to take over as the Springbok number 10? 10.06.2024 51:15
Episode 2: Podcasts help us moan when we lose and groan about how we won. Join the lekker North-South rugby odd-fellows MW Welman and Harry Jones as they rip into why the Stormers’ season ended too soon and why the Bulls’ campaign might as well. A no holds barred grapple into Saffa rugby around the globe, nerves on the tee, Bok depth charts, league power rankings, and the Welsh Test.
Episode 1: Ranking the top Rugby clubs in the world! 03.06.2024 54:48
MW and Harry work through the top rugby leagues to fathom who is on top and who is near. They also examine why some South African coaches and players rise so far when they join the diaspora rather than stay close to home.
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