Pioneer Institute
The Learning Curve
Join The Learning Curve every Wednesday for insight and perspective on education, learning trends, school choice, and public policy. Our hosts and guests offer a mix of provocative commentary as they interview school leaders, innovators, bestselling authors, policymakers, and more. Send any suggestions, tips, and fan mail to pioneer@pioneerinstitute.org. Listen to all episodes of The Learning Curve at Ricochet.com .
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Episodes
Emmy Winner A’Lelia Bundles on Madam C.J. Walker, First U.S. Self-Made Female Millionaire 04.02.2026 48:25
In this episode of The Learning Curve , we celebrate Black History Mont h as co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and Alisha Searcy of the Center for Strong Public Schools speak with A’Lelia Bundles , an accomplished journalist, television producer, and biographer of Madam C. J. Walker, about the life, legacy, and enduring significance of her remarkable great-great-grandmother. Ms. Bundles traces Wal...
Hedgehog Review's Jay Tolson on Walker Percy, Southern Catholic Novelist 28.01.2026 51:35
On this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and Great Hearts Academies’ Dr. Helen Baxendale speak with Jay Tolson , editor of The Hedgehog Review and author of Pilgrim in the Ruins: A Life of Walker Percy . Tolson delves into the literary legacy of Walker Percy, the celebrated 20th-century Southern Catholic novelist. He explores how Percy’s many personal hard...
Award-Winner Ruth Franklin on Anne Frank & Holocaust Remembrance 27.01.2026 50:22
To commemorate Holocaust Remembrance Day, The Learning Curve guest host Andrea Silbert, President of the Eos Foundation, speaks with Ruth Franklin, former editor of The New Republic and author of The Many Lives of Anne Frank . Ms. Franklin reflects on the enduring literary significance of Anne Frank’s diary while providing an overview of her life and the wider historical context of World War II an...
Stanford's Dr. Lerone Martin & NC State's Dr. Jason Miller on MLK's Dream & Langston Hughes’s Poetry 19.01.2026 49:53
In this Martin Luther King, Jr. Day episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and Alisha Searcy of the Center for Public Schools speak with Dr. Lerone Martin , Martin Luther King, Jr. Centennial Professor at Stanford University, and Dr. Jason Miller, Distinguished Professor of English at North Carolina State University. They explore the religious, literary, and historical f...
International Bestseller Dr. Jung Chang on Fly, Wild Swans & China's Despotism 14.01.2026 48:49
In this week's episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy and Great Hearts Academies’ Dr. Helen Baxendale interview award-winning author and biographer Dr. Jung Chang , whose international bestsellers have illuminated three generations of her family's experiences across 20th- and 21st-century China. Dr. Chang reflects on the powerful lessons drawn from...
Arizona's Katherine Haley on School Choice, Fed Ed, & State-led Reform 07.01.2026 54:24
In this week's episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy discuss state and national K-12 education reform with Katherine Haley , Founder and Partner of the Oak Rose Group and President of the Arizona State Board of Education. Haley shares her remarkable career journey from Capitol Hill—where she served as chief policy...
Julie Young, Julie Petersen, & Kay Johnson on Virtual Schools, Actual Learning 17.12.2025 1:04:22
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and Alisha Searcy of the Center for Public Schools speak with Julie Young , Julie Petersen , and Kay Johnson , co-editors of Pioneer Institute’s new book, Virtual Schools, Actual Learning: Digital Education in America . They explore the evolution of online education in the U.S., from the founding of Florida Virtual Sc...
Florida's Erika Donalds on School Choice, Edu Federalism, & K-12 Reform 10.12.2025 37:58
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Ark. Professor Albert Cheng and American Federation for Children’s Shaka Mitchell speak with Erika Donalds , America First Policy Institute’s Chair of Education Opportunity and Chair of the AFPI-Florida State Chapter. A nationally recognized education policy expert, Ms. Donalds shares the formative educational experiences that shaped her pa...
Sean Geraghty and Mike Goldstein on ADHD, Technology, & Schools 03.12.2025 36:47
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Ark. Professor Albert Cheng and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Sean Geraghty & Mike Goldstein , authors of I’ll Do It Later: Surviving School (and Renewing the Love) with Your ADHD Son . Geraghty and Goldstein reflected on the academic and personal experiences that fueled their passion to research ADHD and...
U-NM's NYT Bestseller Paul Andrew Hutton on the American Old West 26.11.2025 45:56
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and Dr. Helen Baxendale of Great Hearts Academies speak with Paul Andrew Hutton , Distinguished Professor of History Emeritus at the University of New Mexico and author of the New York Times Bestseller, The Undiscovered Country: Triumph, Tragedy, and the Shaping of the American West . Prof. Hutton discusses the cen...
Houston Supt. Mike Miles on Urban School District Reform 19.11.2025 39:53
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts Great Heart Academies’ Dr. Helen Baxendale and American Federation for Children’s Shaka Mitchell speak with Mike Miles , superintendent of the Houston Independent School District. Miles has devoted his life to public service, starting as a soldier, then as a diplomat in Poland and Russia during the Cold War before moving into K-12 education r...
UK Uni. of St Andrews' Sir Hew Strachan on the First World War 12.11.2025 48:49
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Sir Hew Strachan , Professor of International Relations at the University of St Andrews, Scotland, and recipient of the 2016 Pritzker Literature Award for Lifetime Achievement in Military Writing. Prof. Sir Hew, author of numerous award-winning books,...
MA Teacher Kelley Brown on Founding Documents, U.S. History, & Civics 05.11.2025 1:04:42
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy and American Federation for Children’s Walter Blanks interview Kelley Brown , an award-winning civics and government teacher at Easthampton High School and former Massachusetts Teacher of the Year. Ms. Brown discusses her background as an educator, her work with the “We the People": The Citizen...
Harvard’s Leo Damrosch on Robert Louis Stevenson & Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde 29.10.2025 41:19
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Great Hearts Academies’ Dr. Helen Baxendale interview Leo Damrosch , Ernest Bernbaum Professor of Literature Emeritus at Harvard University, and acclaimed biographer of some of the world's greatest literary figures. Prof. Damrosch discusses his newest book Storyteller: The Life of Robert Louis Stevenson . He...
Stanford's Anna Lembke, MD, on Dopamine Nation & Addiction 22.10.2025 36:31
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Center for Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy interview Dr. Anna Lembke, MD , professor of psychiatry at the Stanford University School of Medicine, chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic, and author of the NYT bestselling book, Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence . Dr...
AZ Trinity Arch Prep's Jack Johnson Pannell on Educating Boys 15.10.2025 45:51
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Center for Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy interview Jack Johnson Pannell , founder and head of Trinity Arch Preparatory School for Boys in Phoenix. Mr. Pannell discusses his career as an educational leader, including founding a nationally recognized charter school in Baltimore, and shares how his background in...
U-Ark's Robert Maranto & BASIS Ed Texas' Sean Woytek on Academically Intensive Charter Schools 08.10.2025 33:43
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Walter Blanks of the American Federation for Children interview Prof. Robert Maranto and Sean Woytek co-authors of the Education Next piece, “ Why Academically Intensive Charter Schools Deserve Our Attention .” They explore how rigorous charter school networks like BASIS Ed have achieved exceptional outco...
U-Ark's Randall Woods on John Quincy Adams - Statesman of the Early Republic 01.10.2025 39:54
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Center for Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy interview Randall Woods , John A. Cooper Distinguished Professor of History at the University of Arkansas, and author of John Quincy Adams: A Man for the Whole People . Prof. Woods shares the life and career of American statesman John Quincy Adams, the “first so...
FEE's Kerry McDonald on Joyful Learning, Microschools, & Homeschooling 24.09.2025 40:36
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and the Center for Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy interview Kerry McDonald , Senior Education Fellow at the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE), host of the LiberatED podcast, and author of Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling (2025 ) . As a leading advocat...
Dr. Gil Troy on Theodor Herzl - Father of Zionism & Combating Antisemitism 17.09.2025 41:45
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Eos Foundation’s Andrea Silbert interview Dr. Gil Troy , senior fellow at the Jewish People Policy Institute, Distinguished Scholar in North American History at McGill University, and editor of Theodor Herzl: The Collected Zionist Writings and Addresses of Israel's Founder . He offers an overview of Herzl’s u...
UK's Dr. Kathryn Hughes on George Eliot, Middlemarch, & Victorian Novels 10.09.2025 54:25
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Great Hearts Academies’ Dr. Helen Baxendale interview Dr. Kathryn Hughes , academic historian and award-winning author of George Eliot: The Last Victorian . Dr. Hughes discusses the significance of 19th-century novelist Mary Ann Evans, better known by her pen name George Eliot, in shaping British literature a...
Florida's John Kirtley on School Choice 03.09.2025 53:21
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and American Federation for Children Senior Fellow Shaka Mitchell interview John Kirtley , Managing Partner and co-founder of Keswick Partners, and founder and Chairman of Step Up For Students, a nonprofit that manages Florida’s state-funded K-12 scholarship programs serving over half a million students. Kir...
NYT Bestseller Jane Leavy on Reforming Major League Baseball 27.08.2025 56:13
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Pioneer Senior Fellow Charlie Chieppo interview award-winning journalist and New York Times bestselling author Jane Leavy . Ms. Leavy discusses her lifelong love of baseball, and her forthcoming book, Make Me Commissioner: I Know What’s Wrong with Baseball and How to Fix It , which comes out in Septemb...
BU Law's Keith Hylton on Intellectual Property, Patents, & the Law 20.08.2025 47:15
This week on The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Ret. MN Supreme Court Justice Barry Anderson interview Prof. Keith Hylton , William Fairfield Warren Distinguished Professor and Professor of Law at Boston University. Prof. Hylton shares insights from his academic career and the book Laws of Creation: Property Rights in the World of Ideas , which he co-authored....
Pepperdine Law's Pulitzer Winner Edward Larson on 100th Anniv. of Scopes Monkey Trial 13.08.2025 55:41
This week on The Learning Curve , co-hosts U-Arkansas Prof. Albert Cheng and Ret. MN Supreme Court Justice Barry Anderson interview Pulitzer Prize-winning historian and Pepperdine Law’s, Prof. Edward Larson . Prof. Larson marks the 100th anniversary of the Scopes “Monkey Trial,” a landmark case in America’s long-running debate over science, religion, and public education. Drawing on his accla...
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