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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfaremedia.org. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Dangerous Mess at a Defense Tech Startup 27.12.2022 34:19
Founded in 2019, Rebellion Defense emerged as a darling of the defense startup industry, backed by powerful Pentagon insiders and high-profile investors like former Google CEO Eric Schmidt. But now, three years later, the company is beginning to look less like Apple and more like Theranos, according to a recent story in Vox . Lawfare managing editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Vox senior for...
Lawfare Archive: Jonathan Gould on Codifying Constitutional Norms 26.12.2022 40:49
From March 23, 2021: Our constitutional system involves the written document, plus two and a half centuries of judicial decisions interpreting it. But these two things only scratch the surface. It also involves our constitutional norms, the unwritten rules that govern how actors in our political system behave. For decades, commentators have observed the steady erosion of many of these norms, and i...
Chatter: Presidents Who Lose and Run Again with Troy Senik 25.12.2022 1:22:10
Donald Trump is trying to do something rare—very rare—in American history: lose a presidential election, run again, and get elected to a second term. Only one president, the underappreciated Grover Cleveland, has ever accomplished that feat. Yet his story remains largely unknown. David Priess invited Troy Senik, author of a new biography of Grover Cleveland called, “ A Man of Iron: The Turbul...
Emergency Edition: The Jan. 6 Committee's Final Report 24.12.2022 1:20:53
The Jan. 6 committee issued its final report Thursday night, and the team at Lawfare spent Friday reading through it and formulating some initial thoughts, observations, bewilderments, and questions. To give you an overview and some analysis, Lawfare editor-in-chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett, and Lawfare senior editors Scott R. Anderson, Quinta Jurecic,...
What to Make of the 2023 NDAA and Consolidated Appropriations Act 23.12.2022 1:04:06
Over the past few weeks, Congress has slowly brought two of its biggest pieces of annual omnibus legislation to the finish line: the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, and the Consolidated Appropriations Act. Both annual endeavors play central complementary roles in our political system and often become vehicles for an array of otherwise unrelated provisions, including many related to na...
Tom Wheeler and Dave Simpson on Making 5G Secure 22.12.2022 41:30
Fifth generation, or 5G technology, promises to bring high-speed, low-latency wireless infrastructure necessary for the smart era. But moving from the promise of 5G to a reality where 5G networks will deliver amazing and important new capabilities and services will require those networks to be secure. To talk about 5G cybersecurity challenges, Lawfare senior editor Stephanie Pell sat down with Tom...
The Beginning of the End of the Jan. 6 Committee 21.12.2022 54:57
On Monday afternoon, the House Select Committee to investigate the Jan. 6 attack on the United States Capitol, better known as the Jan. 6 committee, held its final public event. It summarized its key findings and voted to approve its final report. And as most commentators are focusing on, the committee also voted to recommend to the Department of Justice that it charge Donald Trump and others with...
The Political Crisis in Peru 20.12.2022 54:25
On December 7, Peruvian president Pedro Castillo attempted to dissolve Peru’s Congress and implement a state of emergency. His dictatorship lasted only a few hours before he was impeached by Congress and arrested—making him the fifth president to leave office in Peru in five years. Since Castillo’s arrest, Peru’s crisis has spiraled further, with protests in the streets and a violent response by t...
Chris Slobogin on Virtual Searches 19.12.2022 55:19
When we think about government surveillance, we often imagine something physical, like a police officer executing a search warrant on a house or car. But increasingly, government surveillance, including the everyday work of police departments across the country, involves remote electronic monitoring or the analysis of massive amounts of digital information. A leading analyst of this transformation...
Chatter: Reassessing Reagan's Foreign Policy with Will Inboden 18.12.2022 1:20:05
Ronald Reagan stands among the most consequential national security presidents in United States history, not least of which because his policies helped to end the Cold War without a direct war between the superpowers. Reagan's vision for ending the Cold War evolved during his presidency, but followed clear principles he brought with him to the office. Will Inboden, a historian and former policymak...
Lawfare Archive: Trump's Money and National Security 17.12.2022 1:00:23
From September 30, 2020: On Sunday, September 27, the New York Times dropped bombshell new reporting on nearly two decades of Donald Trump's tax return data. The story has attracted enormous attention and paints a dismal picture. Donald Trump paid no personal income taxes for 11 of the past 18 years, he uses tax deductions aggressively, and last year he paid only $750 in federal income...
Ralph Bunche, the United Nations, and the Fight to End Empire 16.12.2022 1:00:52
Ralph Bunche, one of the most prominent Black Americans of the 20th century, was a legendary diplomat, who from his perch at the United Nations was a central player in the decolonization movement after World War II. To discuss Bunche and his accomplishments, Lawfare founding editor and Harvard Law professor Jack Goldsmith sat down with Kal Raustiala, the Promise Institute Distinguished Professor o...
Rick Hasen and Nate Persily on Replatforming Trump on Social Media 15.12.2022 43:46
On November 19, Twitter’s new owner Elon Musk announced that he would be reinstating former President Donald Trump’s account on the platform—though so far, Trump hasn’t taken Musk up on the offer, preferring instead to stay on his bespoke website Truth Social. Meanwhile, Meta’s Oversight Board has set a January 2023 deadline for the platform to decide whether or not to return Trump to Facebook fol...
Riana Pfefferkorn on End-to-End Encryption for iPhone Backups to iCloud 14.12.2022 53:08
Last week, Apple made an announcement about some new security features it would be offering to users. One of those features involves users' ability to opt in to encryption for iPhone backups to iCloud. While this new feature will enhance data privacy and security for those users who choose to opt in, it may create additional challenges for law enforcement to obtain evidence in criminal investigati...
“Corrupt Obstruction” Before the D.C. Circuit 13.12.2022 35:45
On Monday, the D.C. Circuit heard oral argument in the case United States v Fischer —one of the most important cases we've seen in a while relating to criminal prosecutions for the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. The case is about a previously obscure statute, at least in this context, that criminalizes corrupt obstruction of an official proceeding, and it’s a charge that DOJ has brought against hun...
A Member of Meta’s Oversight Board Discusses the Board’s New Decision 12.12.2022 46:13
When Facebook whistleblower Frances Haugen shared a trove of internal company documents to the Wall Street Journal in 2021, some of the most dramatic revelations concerned the company’s use of a so-called “cross-check” system that, according to the Journal, essentially exempted certain high-profile users from the platform’s usual rules. After the Journal published its report, Facebook—which has si...
Rational Security 2.0: The “Dork at 4pm” Edition 11.12.2022 1:11:13
This week on Rational Security 2.0 , Alan, Quinta, and Scott were reunited after a few weeks apart to talk through the week's big national security news, including: “In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is Still Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy.” The jury in the Oath Keepers trial came back last week, convicting every defendant of at least one criminal offense—including the controversial charg...
Lawfare Archive: Identifying and Exploiting the Weaknesses of White Supremacist Groups 10.12.2022 42:46
From April 14, 2021: A lot of people are expressing anxiety about white supremacist violent terrorism, yet in a new Brookings paper entitled " Identifying and Exploiting the Weaknesses of the White Supremacist Movement ," Daniel Byman, Lawfare 's foreign policy editor and a senior fellow at the Brookings Center for Middle East Policy, and Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Cente...
Alan Rozenshtein Says the Slope Isn’t That Slippery 09.12.2022 37:13
The DC Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday heard oral arguments in the case of Blassingame v. Trump , an appeal from a civil lawsuit against the former president over Jan. 6. The question before the appeals court is: Does a president have immunity from lawsuit even when he's accused of stirring up a mob against a coordinate branch of government engaged in a function constitutionally entrusted to...
Dissecting the Oral Arguments in Moore v. Harper 08.12.2022 51:16
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in what may be the biggest case of the term: Moore v. Harper . In that case, North Carolina’s state legislature is arguing that the state Supreme Court lacks the legal authority to review the heavily gerrymandered congressional districts it has enacted, on the grounds that the Constitution's elections clause gives that authority exclusively to t...
Regulating AI with Alex Engler 07.12.2022 43:44
Earlier this fall, the Biden administration released what it called a “ Blueprint for an AI Bill of Rights ,” a policy document that lays out a five-pillar strategy for how the United States intends to wrestle with and regulate the challenges arising from the increasingly common use of artificial intelligence. In recent weeks, the European Union has been wrestling with its own AI regulation challe...
J. Edgar Hoover and the Making of the American Century 06.12.2022 57:18
J. Edgar Hoover served as director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation for 48 years, from 1924 until 1972. Since his death, Hoover has become one of the most reviled figures in American history due to FBI operations under his leadership to spy on Americans, including government officials, in order to manipulate democratic politics. To discuss Hoover's extraordinary role in American politics in...
An 11th Circuit Mar-a-Lago Debrief 05.12.2022 48:47
On Thursday afternoon, the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling in the amusingly captioned case Trump v. United States of America . The three-judge panel vacated District Judge Aileen Cannon's order appointing a special master to review the material seized at Mar-a-Lago by the Justice Department, and it ruled in scathing language that she had no authority to entertain the case at all ...
Chatter: Pandemics and Political Violence with Brian Michael Jenkins 04.12.2022 1:25:14
Plagues periodically exact a heavy toll on human life—and much more. They devastate economies, exacerbate social disorder, shock governance systems, provide fodder for political violence, and interact in surprising ways with terrorism. In this episode of Chatter , David Priess and longtime RAND Corporation terrorism expert Brian Michael Jenkins talk about the long nature of pandemics, the history...
Lawfare Archive: Sophia Yan Reports from Quarantine in Beijing 03.12.2022 33:56
From April 28, 2020: Sophia Yan, a correspondent for the London Telegraph, joined Benjamin Wittes from Beijing where she is in coronavirus lockdown after traveling to Wuhan, China, to see how it was recovering from being the coronavirus epidemic center earlier in the year. They talked about what Wuhan looks like these days, what quarantine means in China, and how close the surveillance is. And the...
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