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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfaremedia.org. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jul 11, 2026
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Tim Mak on The Counteroffensive 30.05.2023 49:28
Tim Mak was an NPR reporter in Kyiv since the beginning of the full-scale invasion last year. He recently stepped down and started his own Substack from the Ukrainian capital, called The Counteroffensive , and Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Tim to talk about the publication. What makes a reporter leave an established news organization like NPR to start a startup in a war zon...
Lawfare Archive: Shaun Walker on Russia's Long Hangover 29.05.2023 45:15
From January 20, 2018: This week on the Lawfare Podcast , the Guardian's Moscow correspondent Shaun Walker joined special guest host Alina Polyakova to discuss his new book " The Long Hangover: Putin's New Russia and the Ghosts of the Past ." They discussed Putin's use of Russian history as political strategy, the pulse of Russian politics as its elections approach in March, the changing lan...
Chatter: Popular Presidential Communication with Anne Pluta 28.05.2023 1:11:27
From the birth of the republic, American presidents have communicated with the public in one form or another. The frequency and exact nature of such efforts have varied quite a bit over time due to variables ranging from the extent of partisanship in the media to each commander in chief's personal preference to travel technology. Political scientist Anne Pluta has explored this history deeply, inc...
Lawfare Archive: Michelle Melton on Climate Change as a National Security Threat 27.05.2023 45:10
From April 16, 2019: Since November, Lawfare Contributor Michelle Melton has run a series on our website about Climate Change and National Security, examining the implication of the threat as well as U.S. and international responses to climate change. Melton is a student a Harvard Law school. Prior to that she was an associate fellow in the Energy and National Security Program at the C...
Roger Parloff on the Oath Keeper Sentences 26.05.2023 41:01
Thursday was sentencing day for some senior Oath Keepers, and Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff spent the day in court listening to and watching the sentencing of Elmer Stewart Rhodes III and Kelly Meggs, two Oath Keepers chieftains who were convicted of seditious conspiracy in connection with the Jan. 6 insurrection. They got a lot of time: Rhodes got 18 years; Meggs got 12. They also got a ter...
Timothy McVeigh and the Rise of Right-Wing Extremism 25.05.2023 58:06
At 9:02 a.m. on April 19, 1995, a bomb built by Timothy McVeigh exploded in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City. One hundred sixty-eight people died and hundreds more were injured in what remains the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in U.S. history. Jeffrey Toobin has a new book about the bombing and trial called, “ Homegrown: Timothy McVeigh and the Rise of...
The Big Internet Case That Wasn't 24.05.2023 43:29
The Supreme Court last week issued the biggest opinion in the history of the internet—except that it didn’t. Rather, it issued an opinion in a case involving the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) and the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act (JASTA), finding there was no cause of action and thus dismissed for further consideration the biggest case in the history of the internet. Lawfare Editor-in-Chief...
The Dark History of the Information Age 23.05.2023 1:00:53
Hacking and cybersecurity are evergreen issues, in the news and on Lawfare . Scott Shapiro, the Charles F. Southmayd Professor of Law and Professor of Philosophy at Yale Law School, has a new book on how and why hacking works and what to do about it, called “ Fancy Bear Goes Phishing: The Dark History of the Information Age, in Five Extraordinary Hacks .” Scott joined Jack Goldsmith to talk about...
Patrick Weil on ‘The Madman in the White House’ 22.05.2023 51:19
In November 1919, President Woodrow Wilson came out in opposition to a compromise that would have resulted in Senate ratification of the Versailles Treaty and thereby put the nail in the coffin of an international agreement that he had spent months negotiating and would have secured U.S. participation in one of his greatest legacies, the League of Nations. Wilson's self-defeating decision shocked...
Rational Security: The “Low Down Dirty Shane” Edition 21.05.2023 1:05:55
This week on Rational Security , Alan and Scott were joined by co-host emeritus (and Washington Post star reporter) Shane Harris to talk over the week's news! Including: “Flight of the Valkyries.” Recently leaked U.S. intelligence reports allege that Wagner Group owner Yevgeniy Prighozin—who has privately and publicly feuded with the Russian military leadership in recent weeks and even threatened...
Lawfare Archive: Cheap Fakes on the Campaign Trail 20.05.2023 44:45
From September 9, 2020: It was a big week for manipulated video and audio content. In just 36 hours, senior republicans or people associated with the Trump campaign tweeted, posted or shared manipulated audio or video on social media three times, prompting backlash from media and tech companies. Last week, Lawfare 's managing editor, Quinta Jurecic, and associate editor, Jacob Schulz, wrote&...
Alex Iftimie on DOJ’s Recent Cyber Disruption Efforts 19.05.2023 42:11
Over the past two weeks, the Department of Justice has issued two press releases announcing disruption efforts it has taken against malicious cyber actors. One operation involved the disruption of Russia’s so-called Snake Malware Network, and the other involved the indictment of a Russian national for ransomware attacks on critical infrastructure. To talk about these disruption efforts, Lawf...
Chatter: ‘Special Military Operations’ Against the Russians with Benjamin Wittes 18.05.2023 1:20:28
On April 13, 2022, in the wake of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes conducted his first “special military operation” at the Russian embassy in Washington, DC. It involved 14 theater stage lights that Wittes and other activists used to project images of the Ukrainian flag onto embassy walls. Since then, Wittes’s special military operations have garnered increa...
Crack-Up Capitalism with Quinn Slobodian 18.05.2023 57:09
Think about the world. You might be picturing a globe in a classroom, with its patchwork of multi-colored nations. Or perhaps you have an image of a 2-D map in your head, the famous Mercator projection, a static jigsaw puzzle of borders and countries. From elementary school classrooms to the Olympic stage, the globe and the map tell a story of how the world works, one in which state sovereignty re...
Inside the Capitol Police’s Intelligence Dysfunction 17.05.2023 51:19
The House’s select committee on Jan. 6 may have wound down its work at the end of December 2022, but questions about why law enforcement, including the U.S. Capitol Police, were unprepared for the possibility of an insurrection remain. A new report from the Project on Government Oversight sheds some light on the role that dysfunction in the department’s intelligence division played in leaving the...
The Shadow Docket 16.05.2023 1:07:40
In recent years, the Supreme Court's non-merits “shadow docket” has become a topic of contestation and controversy, especially the Court's emergency orders rulings on issues ranging from immigration to abortion to Covid-19 restrictions. To discuss these issues, Jack Goldsmith sat down with Stephen Vladeck, the Charles Alan Wright Chair in Federal Courts at the University of Texas School of Law, wh...
The Law of the Sea in the Age of Climate Change 15.05.2023 49:52
Though the threat of climate change has come sharply into focus in recent decades, humans have long endeavored to shape and reshape the natural world, carving it up and making sense of it through technological innovations. In just one example, projects of reclamation have increased Singapore’s total land area by 25 percent. The Changi airport sits on land that was once ocean. As Surabhi Rang...
Chatter: Politicians and White House Plumbers with Olivia Nuzzi 14.05.2023 1:06:22
Olivia Nuzzi gets Washington in a way many journalists don’t. As the Washington correspondent for New York magazine, she has written perceptive, piercing, and enduring portraits of Donald Trump and the bizarre characters in his orbit. Now she’s turning her reporter’s eye to history, hosting a companion podcast to HBO's “White House Plumbers,” a five-part series that imagines the Watergate scandal...
Lawfare Archive: Dara Lind on Immigration and the Southern Border 13.05.2023 53:01
From May 7, 2021: Over its first 100 days in office, the Biden administration has faced a difficult set of policy challenges at America's southern border, ranging from new waves of individuals driven to try to cross the border by the effects of the global pandemic, to the often difficult legacy left by some of his predecessor's draconian immigration policies. As a candidate, Biden channeled Democr...
Brian Fishman on Violent Extremism and Platform Liability 12.05.2023 1:04:21
Earlier this year, Brian Fishman published a fantastic paper with Brookings thinking through how technology platforms grapple with terrorism and extremism, and how any reform to Section 230 must allow those platforms space to continue doing that work. That’s the short description, but the paper is really about so much more—about how the work of content moderation actually takes place, how contempo...
Fionnuala Ní Aoláin on Regulating Spyware 11.05.2023 51:16
The term “spyware” refers to software that's designed to infiltrate, monitor, and extract sensitive information from a user's device without their knowledge or consent. Perhaps the most infamous example of the harm that spyware can do is the 2018 killing of Saudi dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi by Saudi government operatives, who used spyware to track Khashoggi before luring him to the Saudi...
Ali Breland on Germany’s Neo-Nazi Resurgence 10.05.2023 43:21
Since 2012, Germany has accepted more refugees than any other country in Europe aside from Turkey. The German government has dispersed these asylum seekers and other immigrants throughout the country, a policy roundly celebrated by refugee activists and governments alike. But as reporter Ali Breland recently wrote in the New Republic, “[T]hese seemingly well-intentioned policies have created dange...
El Salvador’s President Cracks Down on Gangs—and Democracy 09.05.2023 1:05:01
Since March 2022, El Salvador has been under a state of exception as its President Nayib Bukele seeks to crack down on the country’s powerful gangs. Bukele, who once described himself on Twitter as the “world’s coolest dictator,” has engaged in a prolonged attack on El Salvador’s democratic institutions. And the crackdown has resulted in a range of human rights abuses. At the same time, Bukele rea...
Treaties and Dysfunctional Diplomacy 08.05.2023 54:33
The Constitution specifies only one process for making international agreements—Article II gives the president the power to make treaties provided that two-thirds of the senators present concur. The treaty process has been on a long, slow path to obsolescence, having been replaced by various forms of binding and non-binding executive agreements. To assess the causes and impact of the United...
Rational Security: The “Q Agone” Edition 07.05.2023 1:20:19
This week on Rational Security , a Quinta-less Alan and Scott were joined by Lawfare legal fellow Saraphin Dhanani to talk through the week's big national security news, including: “Seoul Authority.” South Korea and the United States recommitted themselves to their close security relationship this past week, including through a state dinner and a new Washington Declaration that confirm...
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