The Just Sustainability Podcast
The Just Sustainability Podcast
Curious conversations about sustainability, equity, and social justice
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Mar 21, 2025
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Just Sustainability, Episode 11B: Janiece Watts – Connecting the dots and building coalitions 29.10.2021 25:28
In this episode Janiece Watts and I talk about the importance of “connecting the dots” when thinking about the relationships between place, race, equity, and sustainability. We also discuss strategies for building coalitions to make social and political change. Janiece Watts is the Director of Culture and Partnerships at Fresh Energy, a board member of the Headwaters Foundation and MN3...
Just Sustainability, Episode 11A: Meeting Janiece Watts 22.10.2021 29:27
In this episode of Just Sustainability it’s my distinct pleasure to introduce you to Janiece Watts. I first learned about Janiece through Troy Goodnough (whom you might have listened to on the final episode of season 1 of Just Sustainability). I’m not sure how Troy became acquainted with Janiece but I clearly remember him excitedly telling me about how he just met someone that is a ris...
Just Sustainability, Episode 10D: Taylor Brorby – Climate change, social justice, and the need to attend to uncomfortable truths 14.10.2021
We’ve reached the conclusion of the conversation that I had with Taylor Brorby. When I asked him about whether there were topics that he wanted to talk about that we had not as of yet broached, he asked me about the things that were presently driving my work. That led us to a long conversation about climate change, social and restorative justice, and the need to attend to histories and narratives...
Just Sustainability, Episode 10C: Taylor Brorby – Stories, social issues, and humility 06.10.2021
In the third part of our conversation, Taylor and I spoke about how he works personal stories about growing-up in a rural community, being gay, and being diabetic into social commentary about discrimination and the harms associated with our extractive economy. Taylor Brorby is an essayist, poet, short storyist (or whatever one calls folks who write short stories), educator, and activist. https://b...
Just Sustainability, Episode 10B: Taylor Brorby – Biases and telling stories that resonate 29.09.2021 26:59
In the second part of our conversation, Taylor Brorby and I pick-up where we left off at the end of the previous episode. Speaking about our childhoods growing-up in rural oil towns led us to talk about how biases affect one’s work and strategies to overcome those biases. Later in this episode, Taylor and I switch topics to storytelling and strategies for telling stories that resonate with b...
Just Sustainability, Episode 10A: Meeting Taylor Brorby 21.09.2021
Taylor Brorby is an essayist, poet, short storyist (or whatever one calls folks who write short stories), educator, and activist. I invited him onto Just Sustainability for several reasons. First, Taylor’s just a fun person to chat with. He’s thoughtful, irreverent in the best way possible, and draws connections that challenge me to think in new ways (that I would likely never get to o...
Just Sustainability, Episode 9: Troy Goodnough – Intercultural Sustainability Leaders (ISLe) 17.07.2021 32:35
e09-transcript Download I suspect that, for the past decade, I’ve worked more closely with Troy Goodnough than with any other colleague or collaborator. I can’t think of many of my professional projects that haven’t benefited in some way from Troy’s contributions. Troy is the Sustainability Director at the University of Minnesota Morris (and happens to be the first Sustaina...
Just Sustainability, Episode 8C: Stephania Fregosi – Competencies and making space for inclusive discourse 09.07.2021 21:43
In the conclusion of our conversation, Stephania Fregosi and I talk about the skills that we believe are necessary to solve difficult problems, the need to better attend to wellness within the domain of sustainability, and how folks might better make space for more inclusive discourse. Stephania Fregosi is a member of the Association for the Advancement of Sustainability in Higher Education’...
Just Sustainability, Episode 8B: Stephania Fregosi – Political neutrality, tools from professional organizations, and thinking about skills and vocations. 02.07.2021 26:40
In the second part of our conversation, Steph and I talk about about how institutional rules requiring political neutrality can interfere with discourse about sustainability (especially given that topics such as climate change and racial equity have been made into politically loaded, and often partisan, topics). We also discuss the sort of tools that professional organizations might provide for th...
Just Sustainability, Episode 8A: Meeting Stephania Fregosi 25.06.2021 23:24
When I think about the integration of equity and sustainability within higher education, I can’t help but to think of Stephania Fregosi. Steph is a member of the Association for the Advancement of Sustainability in Higher Education’s (AASHE) Advisory Council and one of the original and longest serving members of AASHE’s DEI committee. It seems to me that AASHE is an organization...
Just Sustainability, Episode 7C: Shawn Shafner – The Four Noble Poops 18.06.2021 21:39
In the last part of our conversation, Shawn Shafner and I talk about the parallels between the POOP Project and Shawn’s coming-out process, we review some strategies for approaching difficult conversations (including: “The Shit Sandwich,” “Punch-Pull,” and “Respectful Conversation”). And, finally, we talk about the axioms of Shawn’s worldview: The Fo...
Just Sustainability, Episode 7B: Shawn Shafner – Defecatory justice, Queerness, and liberatory discourse 11.06.2021 25:16
In the second episode with Shawn Shafner, Shawn and I spoke about defecatory justice, Queerness, and liberatory discourse. Shawn Shafner is an educator, an artist, and an activist. He skillfully invites folks to join him in difficult conversations about uncomfortable (but necessary to discuss) concerning sustainability and equity (with a particular emphasis on poop and public sanitation). Shawn is...
Just Sustainability, Episode 7A: Meeting Shawn Shafner 04.06.2021 28:45
In hindsight Shawn Shafner, also known as The Puru, played an important role in the creation of the Just Sustainability podcast. Several years ago, I spent several days hanging out and chatting with Shawn while he was performing and giving a number of talks at the University of Minnesota Morris. Speaking with Shawn led me to think more deeply about how poorly most of us within the academy (myself...
Just Sustainability, Episode 6B: Ian Werkheiser – Redefining sustainability 28.05.2021 29:24
Dr. Ian Werkheiser is an Associate Professor of Philosophy and the director of the Center for Collaboration and Ethics at the University of Rio Grande Valley. He also the host of my favorite philosophy podcast: Thought About Food . Dr. Werkheiser, like many of the guests on Just Sustainability, seems to involved in more projects that should be physically possible. In his case, those projects tend...
Just Sustainability, Episode 6A: Meeting Ian Werkheiser 21.05.2021 32:36
Dr. Ian Werkheiser is an Associate Professor of Philosophy and the director of the Center for Collaboration and Ethics at the University of Rio Grande Valley. He also the host of my favorite philosophy podcast: Thought About Food . Dr. Werkheiser, like many of the guests on Just Sustainability, seems to involved in more projects that should be physically possible. In his case, those projects tend...
Just Sustainability, Episode 5B: Teresa Peterson – Gardens and food 14.05.2021 22:09
Dr. Teresa Peterson is a citizen of the Upper Sioux Community. She’s on the Board of Directors and is a co-founder of Dakota Wicohan, which is a nonprofit organization that works to revitalize Dakota language and culture. She’s been a Bush Leadership Fellow, been recognized as a Native Nation Rebuilder through the Native Governance Center, and served as tribal vice-chairwoman of the Upper Si...
Just Sustainability, Episode 5A: Meeting Teresa Peterson 07.05.2021 23:01
Dr. Teresa Peterson is a citizen of the Upper Sioux Community. She’s on the Board of Directors and is a co-founder of Dakota Wicohan, which is a nonprofit organization that works to revitalize Dakota language and culture. She’s been a Bush Leadership Fellow, been recognized as a Native Nation Rebuilder through the Native Governance Center, and served as tribal vice-chairwoman of the Upper Si...
Just Sustainability, Episode 4: Sean Sherman – Reclaiming Indigenous cultures and foodways 30.04.2021 34:16
On this episode we meet Sean Sherman and learn about the impact of settler colonialism, Indigenous foods and foodways, the reclamation of Indigenous cultures and knowledges, and Indigenous education. Sean Sherman is Oglala Lakota and was born in Pine Ridge, SD. He’s a two-time James Beard Award winning chef, author, educator, and activist. He’s also been awarded a First Peoples Fund Fe...
Just Sustainability, Episode 3B: Heid Erdrich – Taking mental walks in the woods and grass 23.04.2021 29:03
Heid Erdrich is an enrolled member of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa. She is astoundingly multi-talented and is a prolific and award-winning poet, cookbook author, storyteller, artist, curator, and educator. She co-founded and lead the Turtle Mountain Writing Workshop, co-founded The Birchbark House (a fund to support indigenous language revitalization efforts), and was the director of Wiigw...
Just Sustainability, Episode 3A: Meeting Heid Erdrich 16.04.2021 25:29
e3a-transcript Download Heid Erdrich is an enrolled member of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa. She is astoundingly multi-talented and is a prolific and award-winning poet, cookbook author, storyteller, artist, curator, and educator. She co-founded and lead the Turtle Mountain Writing Workshop, co-founded The Birchbark House (a fund to support indigenous language revitalization efforts), and w...
Just Sustainability, Episode 2B: Nina Ortiz – Rethinking scholarly discourse 09.04.2021 39:46
In the second half of the conversation that I had with anthropologist Dr. Nina Ortiz, Nina and I talked about a number of topics. One of the topics that we discussed concerned how small rural towns and small colleges needed to change in similar ways to remain sustainable given changing economic and social conditions. We also spoke about the conventions of higher education, how those conventions ar...
Just Sustainability, Episode 2A: Meeting Nina Ortiz 02.04.2021 27:26
On this episode of Just Sustainability we meet Dr. Nina Ortiz, who’s an anthropologist at the University of Minnesota Morris. Nina strikes me as the archetype of a scholar activist — her work is the epitome of community engaged research. More specifically, her scholarship focuses on the experiences of immigrants who live in rural towns within the Midwest of the United States and often...
Just Sustainability, Episode 1B: Fayola Jacobs – Challenging institutional conventions 26.03.2021 23:47
In this episode, we return to the conversation that I had with Dr. Fayola Jacobs from the Hubert H. Humphrey School of Public Affairs at the University of Minnesota Twin Cities. During the second half of our conversation, Dr. Jacobs and I spoke about the importance of improving access for marginalized folks, strategies for navigating and challenging the norms and conventions of higher-education, a...
Just Sustainability, Episode 1A: Meeting Fayola Jacobs 19.03.2021 25:09
In the first episode of Just Sustainability, I’ll introduce you to Dr. Fayola Jacobs, who is an Assistant Professor in the Hubert H. Humphrey School of Public Affairs at the University of Minnesota Twin Cities. Dr. Jacobs does really cool work examining, through a Black feminist lens, how various agencies plan and respond to natural disasters. Earlier in her life, she created and hosted anti...
Just Sustainability, Season 1, Episode 0 05.03.2021 27:31
To introduce you to Just Sustainability: Curious conversations about equity, sustainability, and social justice, Peter Levin from the Institute on the Environment interviews me (Clement Loo) and we talk about what I'm trying to achieve with this podcast and how I think about the sustainability and equity.
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