Jon & Marc

The Jon & Marc Podcast

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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.

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Jon & Marc

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Latest episode

Jul 9, 2026

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The 2026 April Mass Tort Power Rankings: Who Takes the Top Spot? 09.04.2026

Key Takeaways: Social Media Addiction is the new #1: Following a $6 million verdict against Meta and Google, Section 230 is no longer seen as an invincible defense. Depo-Provera’s "Rocket Docket": This is currently the fastest-moving MDL in history , with a trial potentially scheduled for December 2026 . The Rise of Tech Torts: Four of the top six mass torts are now technology platform-b...

Marketing as a Profit Center: Why Your Law Firm Brand is Compounding 07.04.2026

Key Takeaways: Operations vs. IT: Distinguish between infrastructure and "technology-wrapped" processes by hiring specialized roles like Digital Operations Managers and Salesforce Architects. Marketing as a Profit Center: Treat marketing as a revenue driver rather than an expense by hiring elite talent from high-volume industries outside of law. The Brand Compounding Effect: Personal and...

The $6 Million Signal: Analyzing the Social Media Addiction Verdict 02.04.2026

Key Takeaways: Social Media Addiction Verdict: A landmark $6 million verdict ($3M compensatory, $3M punitive) was reached in Los Angeles. Bard PowerPort Launch: The first Bellwether trial is set for April 21, 2026 . Plaintiffs saw a major win in recent Daubert rulings, with most experts cleared to testify, setting the stage for a critical two-to-three-week trial. NEC Trial Momentum: A month into t...

The Truth About Mass Tort Payouts No One Explains to Clients 31.03.2026

Key Takeaways: Why mass tort settlements can take 10–14 months to fully pay out The difference between a settlement announcement and a finalized agreement How lien resolution, probate, and bankruptcies delay distributions Why poor data management slows firms down in first-in, first-out systems How client expectations drive negative reviews in mass tort practices What law firms can do on the front...

How a $6M Bellwether Verdict Changes the Social Media Addiction Landscape 26.03.2026

Key Takeaways: How the $6M social media bellwether verdict breaks down and what the liability split means Why the Dupixent MDL is expected to be a smaller, high-quality docket rather than a volume play What makes Depo-Provera the fastest-moving mass tort in recent history and what to watch next Why the preemption argument in Depo-Provera is widely expected to fail and what happens after Which GLP-...

How Top Law Firms Fix Broken Lead Flow and Stop Losing Cases 24.03.2026

Key Takeways Why phone number matching between CallRail and your CMS is the most reliable attribution method, and why you should still expect up to 20% data loss How programmatic lead routing eliminates the human error that causes leads to sit uncalled for a day or more What the human-to-technology-to-human workflow model looks like in practice, and why it outperforms full automation How first-par...

Inside the $40M Case Acquisition Engine at Angel Reyes & Associates 17.03.2026

Key Takeways: Why Angel Reyes & Associates eliminated television advertising after spending nearly $200M How a cost per kept case model changes law firm marketing economics The digital channels currently driving personal injury case acquisition How lead generation partners fit into a high-volume firm strategy Why Angel Reyes & Associates keeps marketing fully in-house while outsourcing tec...

The 4 Mass Tort Developments Plaintiff Firms Should Be Watching 11.03.2026

Key Takeaways Why the social media addiction trial against Meta may be trending toward a plaintiff verdict How the UK warning on semaglutide could strengthen weight loss drug injury claims in the U.S. What the upcoming Daubert hearings mean for the future of the hair relaxer MDL The 90 day opt out window in the Roundup Missouri class action and what firms must do now How regulatory warnings and ex...

AI for Law Firms: What Should Stay Human and What Shouldn't 10.03.2026

Key Takeways The three bucket framework for deciding where AI belongs in a law firm Why the real divide is between AI users and AI power users How AI can summarize multi-hour meetings and generate action plans The security concerns law firms should evaluate before adopting AI tools How AI platforms integrate with case management systems Why the broader AI ecosystem from Google, OpenAI, and Anthrop...

The Baby Food MDL Just Collapsed. What Plaintiffs Will Do Next | Tort Talk 05.03.2026

Key Takeaways Why the Daubert ruling excluded four key experts in the baby food MDL How the social media addiction trial could influence future platform litigation The new PFAS order requiring fact sheets, medical records, and exposure proof Why courts may begin dismissing PFAS cases that fail compliance deadlines What the 1,000 case surge in Depo Provera filings signals for law firms How upcoming...

The Private Equity Playbook PI Firm Owners Aren’t Ready For in 2026 03.03.2026

How LSOs and MSOs work without violating rules on non-lawyer ownership What opportunists ask for first (“How do I control the lawyers”) and why it dies there The first functions to move into an MSO: finance, IT, people and culture, recruiting, training Why intake consolidation is risky when “local” is part of the brand promise A practical way to think about non-trackable marketing spend without pr...

Roundup Shifts. Meta Sweats. J&J Fights Back | Tort Talk 26.02.2026

How the proposed $7.3B Roundup class action could cap attorney fees at 22% for cases signed after February 17, 2026 Why resolving future, undiagnosed Roundup claims may be a strategic win for defendants What Zuckerberg’s testimony revealed and how his courtroom performance may influence jurors How Meta’s 2018 internal communications on addiction risk strengthen the plaintiffs’ narrative Why J&...

Why Most PI Firms are Lighting Money on Fire | James Helm, TopDog Law 24.02.2026

Key Takeways Why the first 500 cases are your cheapest and how to capitalize on that window How to structure a social team by platform instead of generic roles Why firms should spend 20 percent of media budgets on creative How influencer collaborations can generate $1,000 cost per case at scale Why hiring outside legal, especially from auto retail, creates a data edge How connected TV and branded...

Top 10 Mass Torts to Watch in 2026 | Power Rankings for Plaintiff Firms 19.02.2026

Key Takeaways How Hair Relaxer’s numerosity and maturity keep it at #1 and what dates matter next Why Uber’s $8.5M verdict matters after a prior zero verdict and what a “2-3 more trials” path signals What Roundup’s April 27 Supreme Court oral argument date could do to intake strategy The Roblox arbitration push and the consent issues that may decide early motion outcomes What to watch in weight lo...

The Social Media Reckoning: Inside the Historic Trial with Matt Bergman 17.02.2026

Key Takeaways • The Social Media Addiction Trial focuses on product design and algorithm mechanics, not simply content moderation. • Attorney Matthew Bergman argues that social media platforms were built to maximize engagement through dopamine-driven behavioral design. • Section 230 immunity is central to the legal battle over platform accountability. • Expert testimony compares social media addic...

Beasley Allen Disqualified?? 12.02.2026

• The Uber verdict establishes agency liability without punitive damages • Lyft MDL in Northern District of California may move faster due to Uber roadmap • Social media addiction trial focuses on product design, algorithm targeting, and causation • Defense strategy mirrors the pharma playbook by disputing science and blaming plaintiffs • Beasley Allen disqualified from 3,600 talc cases in New Jer...

The Social Media Trial Big Tech Doesn’t Want 05.02.2026

Snap settled. TikTok settled. Jury selection resumes. The social media addiction trial everyone has been talking about is officially underway and opening arguments could begin within days. In this week’s episode of Tort Talk, Jon, Marc, and mass tort attorney Joe Fantini break down what’s happening in real time and what it could mean for Big Tech litigation going forward. We also cover: The format...

You Either Compete, Get Bought, or Die: The New Reality of PI Law 02.02.2026

Wall Street money is entering personal injury like never before… buying firms, buying leads, and squeezing margins. In this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, we sit down with Michael Saile (co-founder, managing partner, and trial attorney at Cordisco & Saile, just outside Philadelphia) to talk about what it actually takes to grow a firm in 2026 and beyond, when big-budget competitors can...

Five Mass Tort Trials at Once? Live Updates from NTL Miami 30.01.2026

Mass torts are moving fast… faster than most people have seen in years. Live from the National Trial Lawyers Summit in Miami, Jon, Marc, and Joe Fantini break down a rare moment in mass tort litigation: multiple high-stakes trials happening at the same time , across social media addiction, Paraquat, Roundup, talc, Uber sex abuse, and more. From surprise settlements to bellwether trials already und...

Roundup Heads to the Supreme Court + A Rare Wave of Mass Tort Trials 22.01.2026

After months of waiting, the Mass Tort docket is officially in motion. In this week’s Tort Talk, Jon Robinson, Marc Rioux, and Joe Fantini break down a rare convergence of major developments across multiple MDLs and state court proceedings, from the Supreme Court’s decision to take up the Roundup preemption appeal to an unusually heavy slate of trials now underway. Topics covered in this episode i...

Law Firm Marketing in 2026: The Predictions No One Wants to Hear 21.01.2026

Legal marketing is changing fast and 2026 is going to force a real reset. In this episode of The Jon & Marc Podcast, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux break down what they see coming next and what law firms should start doing now to stay ahead. They dig into the shift away from traditional TV and radio toward streaming, social, and podcast advertising, why consumers are already burned out on AI, and...

What the Supreme Court, Uber MDL, and Paraquat Have in Common Right Now 15.01.2026

After a slow start to 2026, the Mass Tort docket is heating up fast. In this week’s Tort Talk, Marc Rioux and Joe Fantini break down a packed slate of major developments shaping the year ahead, including rare Supreme Court action, an important bellwether trial, and mounting pressure on defendants in ongoing litigation. Topics covered in this episode include: The Supreme Court’s decision on the Boy...

Just Handle It: Stop Waiting, Start Executing with Harry Nalbandyan 12.01.2026

What happens when a trial lawyer stops overthinking and just hits record? In this episode, Marc sits down in Los Angeles with Harry Nalbandyan, partner at Levin & Nalbandyan and host of Harry Handles It, to talk about the real value of content creation for lawyers (hint: it is not “becoming an influencer”). They get into why podcasting is a cheat code for communication, leadership, and relatio...

January 2026 Mass Tort Power Rankings: New #1, Big Trials Ahead 08.01.2026

In the first episode of the year, Jon Robinson, Marc Rioux, and Joe Fantini kick off January Power Rankings, counting down the Top 10 mass torts your firm should have on its radar. This month brings a major shakeup: Roundup falls from the top spot and there’s a new #1 to start the year.  We also cover key inflection points coming fast, including Science Day in Hair Relaxer, bellwether trials in Ub...

The Truth About Asbestos Lawsuits: Hard Work, High Stakes, and Human Stories 05.01.2026

Asbestos litigation is one of the most demanding areas of plaintiff law. The timelines are urgent. The clients are gravely ill. The competition is intense. And no firm handles more mesothelioma cases than The Gori Law Firm. In this episode of The Jon and Marc Podcast, filmed live at MTMP, Sara Salger and Chris Layloff reveal how Gori became one of the top asbestos filers in the country and what it...

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