Kathryn Rubino at Above the Law
The Jabot
We are an offshoot of the Above the Law legal blog. But we are focused on the challenges women, people of color, LGBTQIA, and other diverse populations face in the legal industry. Let's be real -- it can suck out there. So we want to create a space where our community can come together share stories, find support and devise strategies. Our name comes from none other than the Notorious Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the jabot (decorative collar) she wears when delivering dissents from the bench. It's a reminder that --even when we aren't winning, we're still a powerful force to be reckoned with.
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Kathryn Rubino at Above the Law
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Jul 6, 2026
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Episodes
Biglaw Firm's Latest Racial Equality Work with Eva J. Pulliam - Episode 46 25.09.2020 24:10
Kathryn interviews Arent Fox partner Eva J. Pulliam about the firm's newly launched Center For Racial Equality. They chat about the creation of the Center and what motivated the firm to do so, the firm's role in racial equality, the goals of the Center, and which projects she is initially focused on. Episode Resources Eva Pulliam eva.pulliam@arentfox.com https://www.arentfox.com/attorneys/eva...
The Lawyer Behind the Hollywood Inclusion Rider and Other Strategies for Workplace Diversity with Kalpana Kotagal - Episode 45 11.09.2020 31:36
Kathryn interviews Kalpana Kotagal, partner at Cohen Milstein and co-author of the Hollywood "Inclusion Rider" (made famous by Frances McDormand during her 2018 Oscars acceptance speech). They talk about strategies for diversity in the workplace and race and gender discrimination. Episode Resources kkotagal@cohenmilstein.com https://www.cohenmilstein.com/professional/kalpana-kotagal#:~:text=Ka...
The Injustice of Criminal Convictions Without Any Crimes with Jessica S. Henry - Episode 44 03.08.2020 27:03
Kathryn Rubino talks with Jessica S. Henry, author of "SMOKE BUT NO FIRE: Convicting the Innocent of Crimes that Never Happened", about the prevalence of no-crime convictions, some of the worst examples of no-crime convictions, how racial injustice exacerbates the issue, and finally what can be done, particularly within the current criminal justice reform zeitgeist. Episode Resources Jessica S....
Erasure of Native Voices in Law School Experience Study - Episode 43 20.07.2020 28:11
Kathryn talks with Thomasina Real Bird, Angelique EagleWoman, Paulene Abeyta, Christina McDonogh, and Aidan Graybill about the exclusion of Native voices in The Center for Women in Law and The NALP Foundation's study, "Women of Color – A Study of Law Student Experiences". They discuss the NALP study, then walk through the 4 identified issues with the survey. They also talk about the NALP response...
ERA with Linda Coberly - Episode 42 14.07.2020 28:09
Kathryn Rubino talks with Linda Coberly, Chicago Office Managing Partner for the law firm of Winston & Strawn and Chair of the ERA Coalition's Legal Task Force, about the ongoing fight for the adoption of the Equal Rights Amendment. Episode Resources lcoberly@winston.com https://www.winston.com/en/who-we-are/professionals/coberly-linda-t.html https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindacoberly Episode...
Diversity and Federal Clerkships with Danielle Barondess and Steven Arango - Episode 41 02.07.2020 29:55
Kathryn talks with Danielle Barondess (a federal law clerk in Hawaii) and Steven Arango (a federal law clerk in Texas) founders of a new program Law Clerks for Diversity. Law Clerks for Diversity connects diverse candidates with current and former law clerks, practitioners, and judges for mentorship and assistance applying for federal clerkships. Episode Resources https://www.linkedin.com/groups...
Biglaw Pro Bono in the Wake of the George Floyd Protests with Tai-Heng Cheng - Episode 40 18.06.2020 24:22
Kathryn talks with Tai-Heng Cheng, global co-head of the international arbitration and trade practice at Sidley, about his recent pro bono efforts. He represents journalist Linda Tirado, who was struck in the eye with a rubber bullet while covering the protests following the murder of George Floyd, in her lawsuit against the city of Minneapolis. Episode Resources https://www.sidley.com/en/people...
How the Recent Black Lives Matter Protests are Changing Biglaw -- Hopefully for the Better with Lia Dorsey - Episode 39 12.06.2020 24:26
Kathryn Rubino talks to Lia Dorsey, newly elected President of the Association of Law Firm Diversity Professionals, and Director of Diversity and Inclusion at Dentons, about Biglaw's response to the violent deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery, and to Black Lives Matter. Episode Resources lia.dorsey@dentons.com https://www.dentons.com/en https://www.linkedin.com/in/lia-dorse...
Interview with Christina Moore, partner at Taylor English Duma LLP - Episode 38 21.05.2020 29:05
Kathryn Rubino talks with Christina Moore, partner at Taylor English Duma LLP, about balancing home life with a thriving legal practice during the pandemic. They discuss COVID-19's impact on work/life balance, tips for dealing with the health crisis and a flourishing legal practice, what she's learned in becoming the firm's PPP point, and what challenges the legal industry faces as we continue to...
Diversity Initiative Aims to Proactively Combat Effects of COVID-19 with Kori Carew - Episode 37 14.05.2020 29:23
Kathryn Rubino speaks with Kori Carew, Seyfarth Shaw's chief inclusion and diversity officer and leader of The Belonging Project initiative. They talk about why the middle of a pandemic is the right time for Biglaw to double down on diversity. Episode Resources https://www.seyfarth.com/the-belonging-project.html kcarew@seyfarth.com https://www.seyfarth.com/about-us/firm-leadership.html Epis...
The In-House Counsel Gender Pay Gap with Eliza Stoker - Episode 36 30.04.2020 29:18
Kathryn Rubino interviews Eliza Stoker, Executive Director of MLA's In-House Counsel Recruiting group, about Major Lindsey & Africa's new In-House Compensation Survey which reveals a gender pay gap. We discuss what folks need to understand about the in-house space that may contribute to the pay gap, what can/should be done to fix the pay gap, and what does gender equity looks like in the in-house...
Law School Diversity and Debt with Kyle McEntee - Episode 35 23.04.2020 31:20
Kathryn talks with Kyle McEntee of Law School Transparency about their new report that identifies --- and charts a way forward --- the problems with diversity and debt in legal education. Episode Resources https://www.lawschooltransparency.com/ kyle.patrick.mcentee@gmail.com Episode Highlights Law school transparency - 1:28 How everything started - 2:04 Kyle's background - 2:45 Diversity an...
Expanding Your Firm During COVID-19 with Kelly Rittenberry Culhane and James Meadows - Episode 34 16.04.2020 33:10
Kathryn Rubino talks with Kelly Rittenberry Culhane and James Meadows, two of the founding partners of Culhane Meadows, about what it was like to start their firm in 2013. They also discuss why their firm cares so much about diversity and what can be done to make the profession more diverse. They also chat about the firm's growth plans, which continue despite the economic downturn created by the g...
Leaving Biglaw with Stephanie Wilkins - Episode 33 09.04.2020 44:09
Kathryn talks with Stephanie Wilkins who said "No" to the Biglaw brass ring of partnership in favor of a freelancer's life. Hear what it is like to choose to be happy over money and how she makes the uncertainty of freelance work for her. Episode Resources https://www.stephaniewilkinsphotography.com/about https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-wilkins/ https://www.instagram.com/swilkinstravels/ ...
The Stereotypes of Appalachia with Cassie Chambers - Episode 32 02.04.2020 30:43
Kathryn talks with Cassie Chambers, author of the new book Hill Women: Finding Family and a Way Forward in the Appalachian Mountains. Cassie is a graduate of Yale College, the Yale School of Public Health, the London School of Economics, and Harvard Law School. They talk about the strong women in her family and the emphasis on education, stereotypes of Appalachia and how her book is a response to...
Mental Health + Working Parents in the Legal Industry with Summer Eberhard - Episode 31 26.03.2020 30:19
Kathryn talks with Summer Eberhard, managing director in the Associate Practice Group at Major, Lindsey & Africa and a working mother who advises young lawyers on negotiating their parental leave, and about the intersection of mental health issues and parenthood. They discuss the challenges of working as a lawyer and parent amid the COVID-19 outbreak, how associates should ask for and take parenta...
Technology and the Legal Industry Diversity Gap with Sara Eng - Episode 30 19.03.2020 25:43
Sara Eng is the VP of Legal Partnerships at InCloudCounsel. Kathryn and Sara talk about implicit bias and how that creates and maintains the diversity gap in the legal profession. They discuss concrete steps that can be taken and technology that can be used to stop the impact of implicit bias. Be sure to stay tuned and enjoy! Episode Resources https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-eng-82432342 https://...
Our Deadly Devotion to Guns and Free Speech with Mary Anne Franks - Episode 29 09.03.2020 30:25
Mary Anne Franks, Professor of Law and Dean's Distinguished Scholar, teaches criminal law, criminal procedure, First Amendment law, Second Amendment law, family law, and Law, Policy, and Technology. Professor Franks is also an Affiliated Faculty member of the University of Miami Department of Philosophy. She also serves as the President and Legislative & Tech Policy Director of the Cyber Civil Rig...
Breastfeeding, Race, and Injustice with Andrea Freeman - Episode 28 28.02.2020 31:35
Andrea Freeman studies the intersection of critical race and class theory with issues of food policy, health, feminism, and consumer credit. Many of her articles explore her pioneering theory of food oppression, which examines how facially neutral food-related law, policy, and government action disproportionately harm marginalized communities. She also studies the effects of racism by credit card...
The Future of Experienced Female Lawyers in Private Practice with Roberta D. Liebenberg and Stephanie A. Scharf - Episode 27 20.12.2019 28:32
Roberta D. Liebenberg and Stephanie A. Scharf are the co-authors of a joint-report by the American Bar Association and ALM Intelligence called Walking Out the Door: the facts, figures, and future of experienced women lawyers in private practice. This report addresses why senior women are far more likely than men to leave the practice of law. Stay tuned! Episode Resources https://www.americanbar.or...
Dana Rosenfeld was recently announced as Kelley Drye's Managing Partner, beginning in January 2020 06.12.2019 28:57
Dana Rosenfeld is a Managing Partner at Kelley Drye Advertising Law. She is a member of the firm's Executive Committee and past chair of the firm's Privacy and Information Security practice. In the area of privacy and data security, Dana assists clients in complying with state and federal privacy and information security laws, as well as advice on best practices and self-regulatory programs. Furt...
Adding Value as a Project Manager with Jessica Robinson - Episode 25 25.10.2019 31:15
Jessica Robinson is the Vice President of Client Services at Casepoint. She plays an important role as Casepoint continues the expansion of its user base and resources it dedicates to client relationships and needs. Casepoint is a technology company focused on the digital transformation of litigation discovery. Jessica shares her background, her company mission, and other insights about her role a...
A Legal Recruiter That Traveled Around The World with Kate Reder- Episode 24 18.10.2019 27:13
Kate Reder Sheikh is a Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa. She covers San Francisco and Silicon Valley. Her focus is on providing a concierge level of service to associates and clients alike. Leveraging her background as a litigator in San Francisco, Kate has unparalleled access to roles and firms in the Northern California market. Kate is an avid traveler—she and her husband have been t...
Boosting Diversity Through Innovation with Lisa Kirby - Episode 23 20.09.2019 26:47
Lisa Kirby is the Chief Intelligence & Knowledge Sharing Officer at Diversity Lab. Lisa brings 20 years of experience in the legal profession: served as a practicing attorney, talent management professionals, and law firm consultant. Lisa began her career as a litigator, practicing at two large law firms. At Diversity Lab, among many other duties, Lisa has led the creation and implementation of th...
LAWCLERK: Where Attorneys Go to Hire Freelance Lawyers with Kristin Tyler - Episode 22 05.09.2019 25:18
Kristin Tyler is a mom, wife, lawyer, legal tech entrepreneur, domestic enthusiast, and co-founder of LAWCLERK. She runs on coffee, wine, and all things gluten-free. Kristin is launching LAWCLERK's marketing and business development efforts, with a focus on helping busy attorneys to rethink their workflows with the LAWCLERK marketplace. Stay tuned and enjoy! Episode Resources https://www.lawclerk....
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