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The Inclusive AF Podcast
Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast, your go-to destination for all things DEI, HR, and workplace inclusivity. Hosted by two BFFs with a combined decades of experience in the people space, Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton, this podcast is where candid conversations meet insightful, actionable strategies. Together, they dive deep into the complex (and often messy) world of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, exploring how to build workplaces that are not just diverse, but truly inclusive. Katee is a dynamic Chief People Officer and DEI thought leader at WebPros, dedicated to shaping inclusive co...
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Mar 26, 2026
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Episodes
Getting Inclusive AF with Amanda Young 20.10.2021 47:04
Amanda Young has just authorized an amazing children's book and she is here to share what drove her to write, "Jumo the Unicorn". Amanda is so transparent about her journey about how to drive inclusion and Jackye and Katee loved hearing about it all-including the animals! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would...
Getting Inclusive AF with Joseph Ifiegbu 14.10.2021 48:39
In this episode, Jackye and Katee chat with Joseph Ifiegbu about futbol, dream jobs and the tool he co-founded that can help HR teams by analyzing their data, eqtble. Prior to eqtble, he garnered extensive experience in the field of analytics. Most recently, as the head of HR Technology at Snap, he implemented best practices for systems architecture and built the foundation and strategy for HR ana...
Together Again - Let's Catch Up! 06.10.2021 50:11
We took a bit of a break because of some personal things- but we will share what those things are of course. But we discuss some heavy topics- grief, therapy tools, seeing folks IRL after covid times, learning, and much, much more. Welcome back!! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by goin...
Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Aysha Khoury 15.09.2021 1:00:27
In this episode, Katee and Jackye speak to Dr. Aysha Khoury, an esteemed professor who lost her job after being asked to talk about inequities in medical care for people of color. The story is tough to hear but we need to listen and learn what we can do to help bring change. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you wo...
Getting Inclusive AF with Helvetikah Blak 09.09.2021 58:07
In this episode, Jackye and Katee speak with Helvetikah Blak @helvetikahblak , an amazing drag queen! She shares a lot about her journey and how she has finally come into her identity as non-binary and the work she is doing to blend her education and life experiences. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rat...
Earning the Trust of Your Employees 01.09.2021 52:45
In this episode, Katee and Jackye talk about how to earn the trust of your employees. Trust is needed to have diversity, equity, and inclusion conversations that are honest. There has to be mutual trust to have tough conversations and have your employees feel safe about sharing their thoughts and feelings. We share some ideas on how to go about earning trust. If you like what you hear, we would li...
Let's Get Paid, Correctly! 25.08.2021 52:50
Jackye and Katee talk money in this episode, and water bottles and cough drops. Sexy stuff, we know! The episode digs into how to think about charging for your expertise when you are a speaker, panelist, and/or consultant. Plus what to remember to have in your backpack at all times when you are attending the gig! For event organizers and those seeking experts, we also share some reasons why asking...
Puppies & Blizzard(s) 18.08.2021 57:45
I mean... we both have new puppies so we needed to start off by discussing the fun of our new family members. But then we actually get to workplace harassment and how that is impacting Activision Blizzard. This story is horrific and the impacts on employees will be long-lasting. Listen in to learn more. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would...
Getting Inclusive AF with Wil Shelton 11.08.2021 43:15
In this episode, Katee flies solo to talk to Wil Shelton, author of "Silent Agreement" which relates the corporate experience for people of color to a boxing ring. The book and the stories from Wil shed some light on the silent agreements that are made at work and why they do not serve people of color. Have a listen! If you'd like to buy the book, go here: https://www.thesilentagreement.com/ Thank...
A World Made for Everyone? Not quite... 04.08.2021 48:19
In this episode, Jackye and Katee explore some of the ways that the world has been designed to exclude way too many people. Cars, medicines, jobs, and so many more have been designed with a male being the first and sometimes only consideration. When half of the world's population is women, that becomes a problem. Listen in to learn more! A few of the examples we use in this episode come from a gre...
Inclusion First, Always. 29.07.2021 32:30
It doesn't matter if you have diversity if folks don't have a voice. If you have an inclusive environment where folks can thrive, you will find diverse candidates. Do you give the right tools to your folks and differentiate between diversity and inclusion or just make them one word? Let's discuss! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also...
ESPN- Still Not Getting the Point! 21.07.2021 48:18
In the most recent controversy at ESPN, Erin Nichols and Maria Taylor have been pitted against each other over coverage of the NBA finals. We discuss how ESPN is still missing the point and what should have been done instead. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodca...
Underlying, Overarching Theme- Women's Bodies 14.07.2021 53:08
We continue to see the policing of women's bodies in the workplace. But what if we don't want to smile more? This and other issues come up for women, especially women of color, all the time. How can we create workplaces that are actually inclusive? Katee puts on her HR cardigan and pearls to answer from the company view while not HR Katee and Jackye get real. Enjoy! If you like what you hear, we w...
Biden's Executive Order Focused On Diversity, Equity Inclusion and Accessibility 07.07.2021 34:21
President Biden just signed an Executive Order that focuses on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Accessibility. It is a clear roadmap of where he wants to focus energy to drive equity in the U.S. government. Jackye and Katee speak about the EO and how this will impact other organizations. It is a must listen! Enjoy! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel...
Ask Me Anything- AMA 28.06.2021 58:42
In this episode, Jackye and Katee answer your questions! We pulled some of the questions you sent us and did our best to offer advice and ideas of what we would recommend. We hope this helps! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this...
Show HBCUs the Money! 02.06.2021 54:27
In this episode, Jackye and Katee celebrate the recent court decisions favoring HBCUs that have historically not received state funding, the large donations coming into HBCUs and why we need to start calling them, Historically Black Institutions. And of course- stories from our animals. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate...
Not Just HR! 26.05.2021 56:20
In this episode, we dig into how each team in your organization can take steps to focus on DEI and make an impact on the work they do. Jackye and Katee share what the work is for each department so you have a blueprint of how to take this work wider than HR. We all have accountability for this work! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would a...
Getting Inclusive AF with Ashten Fizer 19.05.2021 1:09:30
In this episode, Katee and Jackye talk to Ashten Fizer about music, hair, Employee Resources Groups, and what companies can do to not just SAY they're inclusive but actually BE inclusive AF. Katee gets awkward and cries while Jackye and Ashten share some knowledge for our listeners. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it...
Equity, Equality, Inclusion, Diversity, Belonging. . . and? 12.05.2021 49:03
We talk about equity when we haven't yet achieved equality. We talk about diversity but haven't really defined it for our teams. Inclusion and Belonging are hard to measure for some folks. What does it all mean and what words should we be using? Join us on this episode to hear Jackye and Katee's thoughts. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We wou...
But First... Donuts 06.05.2021 56:31
Basecamp- what were you thinking? Politics and social justice at work is something that has popped up quite a bit, especially with current events. Jackye and Katee give you some tips on how to have productive discussions about social justice, politics, mask mandates, etc. Look deeper and really focus to make a change. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our ch...
Getting Inclusive AF with Tara Robertson 30.04.2021 57:35
We should probably just call this part 1 of the Tara Robertson episode because we did not give enough time to talk about everything we wanted to discuss! We talk about data- all the data- and where DEI teams should sit in organizations, and, and, and . . . enjoy it! We absolutely loved this conversation and cannot wait for our next one with Tara! If you like what you hear, we would like to encou...
Getting Inclusive AF with Jess Von Bank 22.04.2021 52:55
In this episode, we are joined by Jess Von Bank, Storyteller, President of Diverse Daisies, Head of Marketing for Leapgen, promoter of women, #GirlMom and all-around bada$$. We talk about ALL THE THINGS in this episode and learn that Jess is not an A$$hole! LOL! We encourage you to listen and learn and join Jackye and Katee in their fan girl-ing of Jess. If you like what you hear, we would like to...
Getting Inclusive AF With Goolie Alvarez 14.04.2021 46:02
This episode will make you smile! We were fortunate to have Goolie Alvarez come and share a bit about Goolie, fashion, Tejano culture and so much more. Goolie is a beautiful human and we cannot wait to share a bit of Goolie with you! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: Rat...
Cancel Culture 07.04.2021 55:48
We are hearing so much about the idea of Cancel Culture, but what does it mean? It is being thrown around like some sort of leftist tool to silence the right. Jackye and Katee dive right in and talk about what it really means- accountability. Listen in to hear their thoughts. If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We create this podcast as a labor of...
Safety 31.03.2021 54:19
In this episode, we talk about safety. We discuss Sarah Everard, a British woman who was kidnapped and then murdered while walking home late at night. This case highlights the view of women across the globe who are fearful about walking home late at night. We talk about rape culture, mental power games, and situations where we haven't felt safe. *Trigger warning- we speak about rape, assault, and...
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