The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

The In Between Podcast with Mel Barrett

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There’s the official story. And then there’s the truth. The In Between is an investigative narrative podcast that digs into cases where the facts got buried, distorted, or deliberately ignored. Hosted by journalist and screenwriter Mel Barrett, each season unpacks one story that was never fully told, blending deep reporting, legal analysis, and raw personal narrative. Mel doesn’t just rehash headlines—she goes digging. She’s spent over a decade uncovering new evidence in the Pamela Smart case, work that helped form the basis of a new habeas petition. In Season One, she revisits the trial that...

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Jul 11, 2026

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Episodes

77: 2025 wrap up! PLUS Kelsey Fitzsimmons home for Christmas, Jesse Mack Butler goes fed + Turtleboy... 30.12.2025

Mel + Rebecca wind down 2025 with their first livestream featuring mini-chainsaws, lots of trolls, and news about Kelsey Fitzsimmons, Sean Goode, Jesse Mack Butler, and of course...Turtleboy drama. If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites cashapp: cash.app/$SomethingsOffTips If you too have been a victim of impersonation of the McAlbert's fundraiser, you can contact GiveSendGo here...

76: BLACK WEEK: Updates on the Sam Nordquist case and revisiting Mel's conversation with Sam's Mom and sister 26.12.2025

This update includes graphic and disturbing information about torture, captivity, group violence, and abuse involving a trans victim. Please take care while listening. When I first introduced you to Sam’s story earlier this season, we talked about what was publicly known at the time: a 24-year-old trans man from Minnesota who flew to New York to meet a woman he’d met on TikTok… and never made it h...

75: MEGA EPISODE: Karen Read Civil Case, Proctor emails, Vanity Fair photos, JP Miller indicted and so so so much more 19.12.2025

The holidays are in full swing, so you'd think the news would slow down. It's not. It actually feels like it's ramping up. It's an advent calendar of true crime news on the daily and Mel and Rebecca are here to discuss and dish a little. In this episode the team breaks down the back-and-forth in the O'Keefe civil suit against Karen Read, new information dripping out about the contents of Michael P...

73: A Boy Named Truth: The Murder of Brandon Teena 16.12.2025

In December 1993, a young man named Brandon Teena was trying to build a life in rural Nebraska—one built on truth, freedom, and finally being seen for who he was. Instead, he walked straight into a storm of transphobia, violence, and a criminal justice system that treated him like a joke rather than a victim. Days after reporting a brutal assault, Brandon, along with Lisa Lambert and Philip DeVine...

74: BRIAN WALSHE VERDICT, Morrissey speaks, saying goodbye to Rob Reiner, and the tragical mass shootings at Bondi and Brown 16.12.2025

Rebecca and Mel had a lot to talk about today that weighs heavy on the heart, but luckily they also know how to take a hard left at a tangent and keep the laughter shining a light. This shit is tough to talk about. Thanks for being with us. If you like us, please tip us: venmo: @melbarrettwrites If you too have been a victim of impersonation of the McAlbert's fundraiser, you can contact GiveSendGo...

72: 💃🏼Menopause break! Defense rests in Brian Walshe Trial, Jesse Butler's back in court, + tangent city 12.12.2025

Mega Something's Off episode with a few menopause breaks.  Mel and Rebecca are talkers...what can we say. 🤷🏻‍♀️  In this episode the hosts--who like to interrupt one another often--breakdown historic cases like OJ Simpson, Pamela Smart, and Matthew Shepard, while getting into the nuances of why the defense chose NOT to put on a case in the Brian Walsh Trial. We'll be on verdict watch starting (p...

71: The Murder That Moved a Nation: Matthew Shepard 10.12.2025

In October 1998, 21-year-old Matthew Shepard was lured from a Wyoming bar, beaten, tied to a fence on the outskirts of Laramie, and left alone in the freezing dark for eighteen hours. His murder shocked the nation, ignited a global outcry, and reshaped the fight for LGBTQ+ rights in America. But behind the headlines and the legislation that now carries his name was a real kid — small, gentle, hope...

70: SOMETHING'S OFF: Tangent City! Plus Turtleboy hearing against Cosgrove, Brian Walshe Trial Days4+5, + Vampire Facials 06.12.2025

Mel + Rebecca take a train to tangent city PLUS the new Turtleboy hearing v. Cosgrove where Cosgrove argues for emails verses hard copies, days 4+5 of the Brian Walshe Trial--including testimony from Ana Walshe's DC boyfriend, William Fastow...and vampire facials? If you like us, tip us. http://www.venmo.com/melbarrettwrites   Thank you!!! You can now join the YouTube channel! Click the join butto...

69: Commonwealth plays games with Kelsey Fitzsimmons, Turtleboy drama, and a recap of the first three days of the Brian Walshe Trial. 05.12.2025

Drama, drama, drama.  Mel + Rebecca try to parse the latest Turtleboy drama, while the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is back on their bullshit with the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case, and Mel takes you on a journey through the bonkers first three days of the Brian Walshe Murder Trial. If you like us, tip us. http://www.venmo.com/melbarrettwrites   Thank you!!! You can now join the YouTube channel! Click...

68: LIVE FREE OR DIE: Pamela Smart Asks The State Of New Hampshire For A New Trial Based On New Evidence 04.12.2025

It's been a long road, but we're finally here. Pamela Smart's attorneys are filing a petition of Habeus Corpus asking for a new trial or at the very least resentencing and they've given me access to the petition. I've been investigating Pam's case for going on a decade and some of the work I did on the first season of The In Between Podcast became the basis for this Habeus. I'm always so proud of...

67: NEW UPDATES in the Pamela Smart Story - Dark Week Revisit 25.11.2025

It’s been more than thirty years since Pamela Smart, a 22-year-old media coordinator from Derry, New Hampshire, was convicted of plotting her husband’s murder. But the story isn’t over. In fact, it’s entering a new chapter. Pamela’s legal team, led by attorney Matthew Zernhelt , has just filed a new habeas corpus petition — and some of the evidence behind it came directly from Mel's own investigat...

66: LISTEN to the new Karen Read Complaint against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully, Higgins, and the McAlberts, read to you by Mel Barrett 22.11.2025

If you're a listening learner, you'll hopefully get a lot out of listening to Mel read you the new Karen Read complaint. If you want to read along, here's the court filing: https://www.scribd.com/document/951000000/Karen-Read-Lawsuit#from_embed If you want to listen without ads, join The Investigator Club Thanks for listening. If you like Mel's work, please let her know, by tipping . 

64: MEGA Something's Off Episode PART ONE - Karen Read sues...everyone! PLUS Brian Walshe pleads guilty + MORE 21.11.2025

In PART ONE of this mega episode--which was too big to upload, so I'm releasing it in parts--Mel + Rebecca break down Brian Walshe pre-trial updates, Karen Read's civil suit against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully and the McAlberts, Corri Hopkins gets the sidebahs, Deitch is running for Morrissey’s job, Gaitani helps out Turtleboy, and Depetro reaches out to Rebecca. TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/Somethin...

65: MEGA Something's Off Episode PART TWO - Karen Read sues...everyone! PLUS Brian Walshe pleads guilty + MORE 21.11.2025

In PART TWO of this mega episode--which was too big to upload, so I'm releasing it in parts--Mel + Rebecca break down Brian Walshe pre-trial updates, Karen Read's civil suit against Proctor, Bukhenik, Tully and the McAlberts, Corri Hopkins gets the sidebahs, Deitch is running for Morrissey’s job, Gaitani helps out Turtleboy, and Depetro reaches out to Rebecca. TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/Somethin...

63: SOMETHING'S OFF with the final Brian Walshe pre-trial hearing (IT'S SPICY) and Turtleboy responds to the McAlbert's threats 18.11.2025

Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 5.5 Mel + Rebecca break down the final pre-trial hearing before the Dec 1 trial begins for Brian Walshe . We're back in Norfolk County and so are some of the characters from the Karen Read case. It gets SPICY. AND Turtleboy responds to the Mcalberts threats. TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips You can now join the YouTube channel...

62: EARLY + AD FREE Something's Off with Jesse Butler, more Proctor emails, the Epstein files, and Lindsay Gaetani brings the receipts! 14.11.2025

TRIGGER WARNING: Sexual Assault and DV. Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 5 Mel + Rebecca break down the case of rapist, Jesse Butler, who received no jail time even though he almost killed one of his victims, PLUS more Proctor emails in the Marbury V Mad email dump, holy shit the Epstein Files, annnnd Lindsey Gaetani releases an audio memo from one of the conspirators. TIP...

61: Stillwater’s Shame: The Jesse Butler Case 11.11.2025

Jesse Mack Butler was charged with raping and choking two girls at Stillwater High School. Eleven felonies. One girl thought she was going to die. And somehow—he walked. No jail. No detention. Just therapy, community service, and a ban on social media. In this episode, Mel breaks down exactly what he did, what the victims survived, and how the system—judges, prosecutors, schools—chose to protect h...

60: Something's off with the Karen Read email dump and VERDICT WATCH in the Zwerner 1st grade shooter case 07.11.2025

Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 4 Mel + Rebecca break down the MarburyVMad (Corri Hopkins) MSP email dump from the Karen Read Trial and Mel breaks down the civil case of the 1st grade shooter who shot his teacher, Abigail Zwerner. TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips You can now join the channel! Click the join button to select your favorite level. Join the Inve...

59: She Called for Help: The Killing of Sonya Massey 04.11.2025

When 36-year-old Sonya Massey—a Black mother of two—called 911 for help during a mental health crisis, she needed compassion. Instead, she was shot in the face by a white sheriff’s deputy in her own kitchen. In this episode of The In Between , host Mel Barrett walks listeners through the events of July 6, 2024, the bodycam footage that shook a community, the trial that followed, and the broader fa...

58: EXTRA Something's Off w/the feds and Michael Proctor's messages and well...Jen McCabe's 911 call 02.11.2025

Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode 3.5 Mel + Rebecca break down the preservation of Michael Proctor's messages and go on a deep dive into Samanthan Benigno's analysis of the 911 call Jen McCabe made at the scene of John O'Keefe's death. If you weren't already convinced the McCabes and Alberts had something to do with you, you might be after watching Sam's video. We'll link b...

57: SOMETHING'S OFF with that Microdots video, Turtleboy and the Jurks, and Kelsey Fitzsimmons' case eps 3 01.11.2025

Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode Three  Mel + Rebecca get into allll the chaos surrounding Turtleboy and the other boys, updates on all things Karen Read adjacent, including Microdots, and we take a deep dive on the Kelsey Fitzsimmons case.   TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips   Join the Investigator Club (The In Between Podcast) or Crime Writer's On Patreon fo...

56: RED RECORD: The Story of Trey Reed 29.10.2025

On September 15, 2025, 21-year-old Trey Reed—a first-generation college student at Delta State University—was found hanging from a tree on campus. Within hours, his death was ruled a suicide. No investigation. No real answers. But Trey’s family knew something was wrong. And the deeper you look, the more disturbing the picture becomes: missing surveillance footage, a mysterious belt with no buckle,...

55: SOMETHING'S OFF with Michael Proctor's iCloud, Turtleboy charges + old rumors about a body in the snow 27.10.2025

Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie episode Two Mel + Rebecca get into allll the chaos surrounding Michael Proctor, the Fed document dump/hearings, who lied: Dever or Cox? and an old rumor that resurfaced this week about a person being hit by a plow on Fairview Road. TIP JAR: https://tinyurl.com/SomethingsOffTips Join the Investigator Club (The In Between Podcast) or Crime Writer's O...

54: CASE UPDATES: Ellen Greenburg, Michael Proctor, and Sam Nordquist 22.10.2025

Mel returns to three deeply unsettling cases that continue to raise serious questions: Ellen Greenberg: A new city-commissioned review reaffirms suicide, despite 20+ stab wounds. Her family says the fight for justice is far from over. Michael Proctor: The former state trooper withdraws his appeal after disturbing personal texts dating back to 2013 surface—some now allowed in a separate murder tria...

53: NEW SHOW: Something's Off with Mel Barrett + Rebecca Lavoie 17.10.2025

Preview SOMETHING'S OFF here and join us in the Investigator Club to get early access to new episodes, or subscribe to the YouTube to watch Something's Off for FREE. In our first episode, Mel Barrett and Rebecca Lavoie dig into the discord in the Turtleboy/FKR communities and take a deeper dive into the upcoming Brian Walshe trial, which crosses over into Karen Read territory when Yuri Bukhenik an...

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