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The Human Action Podcast
The Human Action Podcast features in-depth interviews on current topics in economics through an Austro libertarian lens.
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Episodes
Essays in Austrian Economics: Honoring Joe Salerno 07.07.2025
This week, Bob talks with economist and Mises Institute research fellow, David Howden, co-editor of The Next Generation of Austrian Economics: Essays in Honor of Joe Salerno . They discuss key chapters from the book, highlighting significant contributions from up-and-coming Austrian economists in areas such as monopoly pricing, international economics, and monetary theory. The Next Generatio...
Steve Hanke on Hyperinflation, Currency Boards, and the COVID Lockdown Debacle 01.07.2025
Bob hosts Steve Hanke, Distinguished Senior Scholar at the Mises Institute and Professor of Applied Economics at Johns Hopkins University, to discuss his research on hyperinflations, currency board solutions, and the economic effects of the COVID lockdowns. Hanke explains the findings of his meta-analysis of lockdown impact and explains why Sweden's laissez-faire approach was vindicated. He a...
Thomas Paine: The American Revolution's Unlikely Hero 22.06.2025
Bob is joined by author George Ford Smith for a detailed examination into the life and legacy of Thomas Paine. They discuss how Paine’s writings, especially Common Sense and the American Crisis essays, mustered colonial support for independence and even influenced the outcome of the Revolutionary War. Smith explains Paine's life, from early setbacks and struggles in England to becoming a pivotal f...
The Debate Over the Big Beautiful Bill 14.06.2025
Bob hosts economist Daniel Lacalle to analyze the controversial Big Beautiful Bill. Daniel explains why, despite its imperfections, the bill represents a vital first step toward curbing government spending and protecting private-sector prosperity from excessive state intervention. Daniel's Article, "The Big Beautiful Bill Is Much Better Than You Think": Mises.org/HAP504a Thomas Massie's X Exchange...
New Academic Paper Uses Rothbard's National Output Metric 11.06.2025
Vincent Geloso and Chandler Reilly have a new paper in which they use Rothbard's "Private Product Remaining" (PPR) as a lower bound on estimates of national output, to be contrasted with the convention GDP statistics as an upper bound. Bob has the authors explain Rothbard's proposal and how they are trying to introduce it to the economics profession. The Paper, "National Output Without Government?...
The Crucial Principle and Data At Stake in the SoHo Immigration Debate 30.05.2025
In this episode of the Human Action Podcast, Bob analyzes the key arguments from the recent immigration debate at the Soho Forum between Dave Smith and Alex Nowrasteh. He clarifies the critical issue of how libertarians should approach immigration when the government controls significant property and resources, explores the implications for public property rights, and examines empirical claims mad...
What the New Right Gets Right—and Wrong—About Free Trade 26.05.2025
Bob takes a close look at Oren Cass’s recent appearance on Tucker Carlson, where Cass argued for free trade to a skeptical conservative audience. Bob unpacks Cass’s arguments about tariffs, comparative advantage, and trade deficits—not to attack, but to clarify. Using classical and Austrian economics, Murphy shows why U.S. economic malaise can’t be solved with tariffs, but also why dismissing Cass...
Why Are US Drug Prices So High? 19.05.2025
Economist Alex Tabarrok joins Bob to review Trump’s executive order on prescription drug pricing. They explore how price discrimination works in global pharmaceutical markets, the unintended consequences of importation policies, and why U.S. consumers often pay more—yet benefit most from drug innovation. Tabarrok also critiques the FDA’s role in delaying treatments and explains how regulatory refo...
Explaining the Quirks in the GDP Report 12.05.2025
The recent BEA "Advance Estimate" for 1q GDP growth showed a lackluster drop of 0.3 percent, but it included unusually large swings in private inventories and imports, as well as a drop in federal expenditures. Some MAGA fans have argued that once you account for these misleading figures, the report signifies a healthy economy. Murphy mostly disagrees, and shows why the report--taken at face value...
The Method Behind Real Economic Thinking 05.05.2025
Dr. Jonathan Newman returns to the Human Action Podcast to discuss the relaunch of the Mises Academy—including his new course based on Bob's Lessons for the Young Economist textbook. But this conversation goes much deeper than curriculum. Bob and Jonathan unpack the fundamental question: What is economics, really? They explore how Austrian economics differs from psychology, history, and the natura...
Should Economists Champion Fed "Independence"? 26.04.2025
Dr. Joe Salerno joins Bob to review the recent tensions between Donald Trump and Fed Chairman Jerome Powell. As Trump questions Powell’s leadership and Fed policy, they explore the deeper issues: Should central banks really be "independent"? Does the Fed’s shield from political oversight protect sound economics—or merely insulate elites from accountability? Murphy and Salerno tackle myths about in...
Randall Wray's MMT Lecture Distorts History 19.04.2025
The Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) crowd prides itself on fidelity to actual history. But Murphy shows how leading MMT guru Randall Wray completely distorts his discussion of two historical episodes in his college lecture. Wray, "Modern Money Theory for Beginners": Mises.org/HAP496a The NBER Paper on Colonial Virginia's Money Regime: Mises.org/HAP496b NPR Planet Money, "A Giant Stone Coin At The Bot...
Trump's Tariffs: Triffin Is Wrong, Ron Paul Is Right 09.04.2025
In this episode, Bob breaks down the Triffin dilemma, explaining why it's wrong to assume that maintaining global reserve currency status requires ever-increasing U.S. trade deficits. He shows that America’s chronic deficits are driven more by government spending and fiat money than by global necessity, making the case that returning to fiscal discipline and sound money—not tariffs—is the key to r...
Menger vs. MMT on the Origins of Money 05.04.2025
Jonathan Newman joins Bob to discuss the debate between Austrians and MMTers on the origins of money. In the Anti-MMT panel at the Austrian Economics Research Conference (AERC), Jonathan presented his research on the archeological evidence that silver was used as money in ancient Mesopotamia and how the evidence vindicates Menger's theory on the origins of money. Jonathan and Bob walk through vari...
Even the Inventor of GDP Statistics Knew Government Spending Was Dubious 30.03.2025
Patrick Newman joins Bob to discuss one of his talks at the Austrian Economics Research Conference (AERC) , where he explained that Simon Kuznets–who developed the method of calculating GNP and GDP statistics–had serious doubts about how to include government expenditures. Patrick's Talk at the 2025 AERC: Mises.org/HAP493a Rothbard's Man, Economy, and State: Mises.org/HAP493b Bob's 2014 Talk on th...
Are Trade Deficits a Sign of Economic Strength? 22.03.2025
Bob responds to recent tweets that believe trade deficits are a sign of economic strength. He also includes an op-ed from Robert Barro and a clip from Milton Friedman, to show that even big gun economists can often speak in misleading ways when it comes to trade deficits. Bob's Article on Free Traders Defending Deficits: Mises.org/HAP492a The FRED Chart Referenced in this Episode: Mises.org/HAP492...
Why Price Deflation Doesn't Hinder Investment 14.03.2025
One of the common worries about a hard money like gold or Bitcoin is that large price deflation could make lending and investment impossible because nominal interest rates can't go below 0%. Bob explains why these fears are invalid. The Charts Used in This Episode Can Be Viewed Here: Mises.org/HAP491a The Mises Institute is giving away 100,000 copies of Murray Rothbard’s, What Has Government Done...
Perfecting the Libertarian Argument for Dealing with the Drug Cartels 07.03.2025
Bob first reviews the standard libertarian case for legalizing drugs as the way to neutralize the Mexican drug cartels. Then he plays a recent clip where Dave Smith argues that drug prohibition leads to violence because (among other factors) you can't call the cops if someone steals your product. Bob argues that libertarians should stop making this (invalid) argument. Bob's Lessons for the Young E...
Guido Hülsmann on What You Can Find in the New Grove City Mises Archives 03.03.2025
Grove City College has recently digitized its collection of post-war materials—including photos, correspondence, and manuscripts—from the great Austrian economist, Ludwig von Mises. Mises' biographer, Guido Hülsmann, joins Bob to discuss some of the treasures that have been made available online. Explore the Grove City College's Digital Mises Archive: Mises.org/HAP489a Dr. Hülsmann's Biography of...
Would DOGE Dividend Checks Stoke Inflation? 21.02.2025
Some have proposed that the spending cuts identified by DOGE be directed towards a $5000 tax rebate for Americans who pay federal taxes. Critics warn it could be inflationary, just like the COVID-era stimmies. Bob disagrees, explaining that the DOGE spending cuts offset the impact. Rothbard's Making Economic Sense: Mises.org/HAP488a Bob's Understanding Money Mechanics: Mises.org/HAP488b Join the M...
Unpacking the Document that Spells Out Trump's Tariff Strategy 14.02.2025
Josh Hendrickson is the chair of the Economics Department at the University of Mississippi. He recently brought to Twitter's attention a 41-page document released in November by Stephen Miran, the Harvard PhD whom Trump has nominated as the new chair of the Council of Economic Advisors. The document spells out a strategy of using tariffs and deregulation to Make America Great Again. The 41-Page Ta...
Erick Brimen Explains the Free City of Próspera 08.02.2025
Erick Brimen is the CEO of Honduras Próspera, which is described as a "start up city" that offers choice in regulatory treatment. It is an exciting application of libertarian theory to the messy real world of existing States. Find Out More about Honduras Próspera: Mises.org/HAP486a Join the Mises Institute on April 26 in Phoenix, Arizona, as we expose the danger and waste of bureaucracy: Mises.org...
Would Trump's Plan to Replace Income Tax with Tariffs Work? 31.01.2025
Bob analyzes President Trump's recent remarks praising the revenue capacity of tariffs. He shows that historically, tariffs only bought in a small fraction of what income taxes currently yield, meaning federal spending would have to be sharply cut in order to phase out the income tax. HAPod Ep. 458 on Tariffs vs. Income Taxes: Mises.org/HAP485a Brian Domitrovic's Forbes Article, "Supply-Sider...
Murphy and Newman Do a Postgame Analysis of ZeroHedge MMT Debate 24.01.2025
Murphy recently squared off against Nathan Tankus in a ZeroHedge debate focusing on Austrian economics vs. Modern Monetary Theory (MMT). Jonathan Newman watched the debate and selected three clips highlighting key areas of dispute. Jonathan and Bob elaborate on the issues and anticipate possible MMT replies. Bob's ZeroHedge Debate with Nathan Tankus: Mises.org/HAP484a Bob and Jonathan's Tag-Team M...
Lawrence McQuillan Explains the Policy Inferno Behind the California Wildfires 18.01.2025
Lawrence McQuillan from the Independent Institute joins Bob to delve into the regulatory failures and mismanagement behind the wildfire crisis in California. They discuss the environmental policies that exacerbate risks, offer practical solutions to firefighting and prevention shortcomings, and examine the role of private stewardship in mitigating future disasters. This episode overall sheds light...
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