Ryan Schaap

The Hardest Podcast to Podcast

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The Hardest Podcast to Podcast celebrates The White Stripes discussing one song at a time. The show is simple: one White Stripes song a week, at random. Ryan Schaap sits down with a guest host to cover one song and discuss its legacy and its role in the band's catalogue. Working hard to celebrate everyone's favourite duo, Jack White and Meg White. Hosted and produced by Ryan SchaapArtwork by Caitlin Likely

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Ryan Schaap

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Music

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Latest episode

Jun 23, 2026

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Episodes

This Protector ft. Melissa Giannini 25.11.2025

Without a doubt, the BEST final track on all six White Stripes albums. Melissa and Ryan discuss the powerful closer to 2001's White Blood Cells, share their thoughts on the lyrics and themes, and praise Jack and Meg for their harmonizing.  They also discuss Melissa's outstanding article " Searching for Meg White " for Elle Magazine and covering the the band's early days as the  staff music writer...

Rag and Bone ft. Nate Prevedoros (Dead Summer) 18.11.2025

Bring out your junk and we'll give it a home! Nate is back on the show to discuss all things Rag and Bone. From the song's fun and silly story to the catchy riff and choruses, this song almost didn't make 2007's Icky Thump but that last-minute decision proved to make the White Stripes' final album even more memorable. Listen to Nate's fantastic band Dead Summer and stream their latest single Melod...

White Stripes Enter the Rock Hall ... and Slicker Drips 12.11.2025

The White Stripes officially entered the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on November 8. Jack White took to the stage wearing red, white, and black for the first time in eighteen years and delivered a beautiful, heartfelt speech, including some comments from Meg, and a letter he had yet to send her. While Meg's absence was largely expected, it didn't stop some of the biggest names in music from showing...

Hello Operator ft. The Third Men Podcast (Special Cross-over Episode) 04.11.2025

The two podcasts of the Jack White universe collide for a special cross-over episode you never thought you'd need! James and Paul Kaminski from The Third Men Podcast join Ryan to discuss their podcasting journeys, their respective fandoms, and of course, Hello Operator , the only single off the 2000 alum  De Stijl album . A key staple in The White Stripes' legacy, "Hello Operator" is arguably the...

Broken Bricks ft. Matt Kerr (Terrifying Girls High School) 21.10.2025

Have you been to the broken bricks, girl? Ryan and Matt gather to break down Broken Bricks off their debut album. A rumpus, fast-paced punk track that's barely 1:45, and seemingly the only White Stripes original song with lyrics not written by Jack White. They discuss the poetry behind the song, it's big return as a Jack White solo live track, and much more!  Listen to Matt play drums in Terrifyin...

In the Cold, Cold Night ft. Alexis Young (Blonde Diamond) 14.10.2025

Meg steps up to the mic and delivers an absolute classic.  Alexis and Ryan dive into ' In the Cold, Cold Night' , one of the White Stripes' quiet masterpieces in the midst of their loud and rowdy album Elephant. They discuss the simple and powerful story Meg sings, the raw and authentic recording at Toe Rag Studios, and the song's live history, which saw Jack call for Meg to come from behind her d...

Little Acorns ft. John Cullen 07.10.2025

Tell 'em, Mort! John and Ryan dive into a deep cut off the White Stripes' 2003 album 'Elephant'. They discuss Little Acorns' serendipitous origins, and Jack and Meg decision to use the voice of a Detroit broadcasting legend on the track. John and Ryan then begin a spirited conversation about the band's approach to writing and recording. John hosts Blocked Party , the P.O.D. Kast , and What is...?...

Astro ft. Dan Saraceni 30.09.2025

Do you do the Astro? We'll assume so. Dan Saraceni makes his second appearance on the podcast, discussing "Astro" off the White Stripes' 1999 debut album.  They discuss the song's incredibly catchy riff, it's unique lyrics that help profile the rivalry between Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison, and talk about Jack White's love for their first album, and how much it sounds like Detroit. Dan hosts ' Is...

Bone Broke ft. Nate Prevedoros (Dead Summer) 19.09.2025

ANOTHER job at the liquor store?! Damn! Nate Prevedoros sits down with Ryan to discuss one of the loudest and most chaotic tracks the White Stripes ever released.  " Bone Broke " stands out as a powerful, frantic, and raw song from the band's only album recorded in a high-end studio. They cover the demo process, the first and only time the band ever did this, the evolution of the lyrics, and how t...

Signed D.C. 10.09.2025

Did you know about this song? Because up until a few weeks ago, Ryan certainly didn't! It's a solo episode this week. Ryan discovers this release from the eighth, subscribers-only Vault Package from summer 2011. Serving as the earliest 'studio' recording of the White Stripes ever released, their cover of Love's tragic ballad about drug addiction paints an incredible picture of Jack and Meg in the...

Shelter of Your Arms ft. Arash Memarzadeh 26.08.2025

There's a storm, it's coming all around... Ryan and Arash discuss one of the most obscure songs in the White Stripes' catalogue. Their 2005 cover of the Greenhornes' "Shelter of Your Arms"  released earlier that same year, which saw the White Stripes record a track that was anything but striped-down or raw. They discuss Jack and Meg's unusual pivot towards more polished and produced music, and the...

Who's To Say ft. Kirk Hamilton 19.08.2025

Is this song a cover? Who's to say? Ryan and Kirk break down the White Stripes' cover of Blanche's "Who's To Say", the B-side of the "I Just Don't Know What to do With Myself" single. This song has been in the Jack White universe dating back to 1998 when Jack White and Blanche's Dan John Miller were members of Two-Star Tabernacle.  They look at the lyrical themes of the song and compare the Stripe...

Aluminum ft. Jeff & Nathan Fox 12.08.2025

It's a weird one, but it goes hard! Depending on who you ask, Aluminum is the only instrumental song released by the White Stripes. A raw, gritty, and sonically uncomfortable track off 2001 White Blood Cells, Aluminum is a pure and authentic White Stripes track. Loud guitars, heavy drums, and some wild howls by Jack. Ryan, Nathan and Jeff discuss the White Blood Cells era White Stripes, their trip...

Screwdriver ft. Mike Noble (Hotel Mira) 05.08.2025

Meg pointed at a screwdriver across the room and told Jack it would make a good song title.  Screwdriver is the topic of discussion this week. Hotel Mira's Mike Noble becomes the first two-time guest of the podcast as they dive into arguably the White Stripes' oldest songs. From its jam-session beginnings, to it being another one of the band's "North Star" live songs, this blues riff and simple bu...

White Moon ft. Gigi Marie 29.07.2025

Ryan and Gigi discuss "White Moon", the beautiful piano track off 2005's Get Behind Me Satan. Only played four times live, there is one performance of the song that every fan remembers. Serving as the final scene of their 2010 documentary "Under Great White Northern Lights", the song and performance perfectly encapsulates all that is special about Jack and Meg White. Listen to  Gigi Marie 's new a...

Jolene ft. Andrea Woo 22.07.2025

The White Stripes' live staple. Their best cover, and perhaps the most important b-side in their discography? Andrea and Ryan discuss the White Stripes' cover of the Dolly Parton classic. They look at the song's history and origin, and marvel at the song's vulnerability. The Stripes' cover took on a new identity live and is the shining example of the band's creativity and sheer power. Based in Van...

Little Cream Soda ft. Sam Phelps 15.07.2025

Little Cream Soda was one of the few premeditated things The White Stripes did, being their sixth and final "Little" song that found their way on each of their albums.  Ryan and Sam discuss Little Cream Soda's early origins on the Elephant tour, the song's abbreviated live history, and some of the lyrical themes in this heavy driving track by the White Stripes. They also discuss the Icky Thump-era...

I Think I Smell A Rat ft. Matt Kerr 01.07.2025

Did trouble-making youth outside the gas station inspire this song? Yes. Yes they did. Hardcore drummer and film producer Matt Kerr joins the podcast to discuss "I Think I Smell A Rat" off of 2001's White Blood Cells.  The song is a live staple, a personal favourite of Jack White, and one of the most unique songs in the White Stripes' catalogue. Ryan and Matt discuss the song's origins as old inte...

Little Room ft. Andrew Zuber 24.06.2025

Short song, long conversation. Ryan's joined in his little room with Andrew Zuber to discuss "Little Room", the short but impactful track off 2001's White Blood Cells. The two discuss the challenges and struggles of the creative process, and how the White Stripes carried this song with them for some of the biggest moments of their career as the band's popularity continued to rise. Ryan also sugges...

Icky Thump ft. Alan Cross 17.06.2025

Alan Cross joins Ryan on this episode to discuss the title track off the White Stripes' final album, 2007's Icky Thump. They discuss the state of the band following the release of the Raconteurs' debut album 'Broken boy Soldiers', and look at why 'Icky Thump' was ultimately their final album following the grueling touring schedule they took on in 2007. They also reflect on the 2008 documentary "It...

Girl, You Have No Faith in Medicine ft. Bryan Quinby 10.06.2025

Girl, You Have No Faith in Medicine? Meg Has No Faith in Jack's Lyrics. Bryan Quinby joins us this week to talk about the frenetic track on 2003's "Elephant". The song is catchy, fast, and loud but almost did not see the light of day.  They discuss Bryan's musical journey from Nu Metal to the White Stripes, look at the band's history in Columbus, and discuss Jack White's strange inspiration for a...

The Big Three Killed My Baby ft. Allie Sheldan (WAIT//LESS) 03.06.2025

WAIT//LESS is fresh off opening for Jack White at the Commodore Ballroom in Vancouver, BC. Allie Sheldan shares her band's story of getting hand picked by Jack White and all the positive things he is doing for up-and-coming bands. Ryan and Allie discuss "The Big Three Killed My Baby", one of the White Stripes' heavier tracks, a song of protest against the big three motor companies that built up an...

Apple Blossom ft. Kevvy (Fake Shark) 27.05.2025

A simple and stripped-down tale of someone longing to help a woman in distress, Apple Blossom is still being performed live, twenty five years later. Fake Shark's lead singer Kevvy joins Ryan to discuss the song's simplistic recording in Jack White's living room, it's longevity in the White Stripes' live set, and it's second life after being featured prominently in Quentin Tarantino's 2015 film "H...

I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself ft. Jason Manning 20.05.2025

A live favourite and one of the best cover songs in the White Stripes' catalogue, and it's not "Jolene"?! Ryan and guest Jason Manning discuss the song brought to the table by Meg White, who felt the band should cover it, and how they turned the classic song written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David into something incredible, unique, and powerful. For the first time in this podcast's early existance...

Let's Build A Home ft. Dan Saraceni 13.05.2025

Clocking at 1:58 with a twenty-five second home recording intro, "Let's Build A Home" makes so much noise in so little time while leaving a lasting impression in the White Stripes' catalogue.  Ryan and Dan discuss the adorable Gillis Family recording off the top of the song, count the song's lyrics (there aren't many), and look at the song's incredible live performance legacy. From Under Blackpool...

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