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The Grenfell Tower Inquiry Podcast
A new 10-part series about the Grenfell Tower fire and why it happened. Missed opportunities, unheeded warnings and state failure to protect its citizens. What a fire in west London that killed 72 people shows us about how Britain works, and doesn't.
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Episodes
66 Group Manager O’Neill, Watch Manager Ricketts and Station Manager Davis 02.10.2018 23:27
The final day of firefighter evidence in this part of the inquiry. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researchers Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
65 Commissioner Cotton 27.09.2018 30:16
Commissioner Dany Cotton told the inquiry that nothing could have stopped the fire spreading. She acknowledged the London Fire Brigade was aware of the danger of fire spreading on the outside of a building before Grenfell. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researchers Olivia Beazley and Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
64 Assistant Commissioner Roe 26.09.2018 19:39
In a recording of a discussion held during the incident, Assistant Commissioner Andrew Roe tells the local council its delay in getting building plans to firefighters was a “major deficiency”. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
63 Deputy Assistant Commissioner O’Loughlin and Assistant Commissioner Roe 25.09.2018 17:24
Deputy Assistant Commissioner Andrew O’Loughlin, tells the inquiry Grenfell Tower reacted so badly to fire that no one should have lived there. The inquiry also heard from the second highest ranking officer to attend the incident, Assistant Commissioner, Andrew Roe. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
62 Deputy Assistant Commissioner O’Loughlin 24.09.2018 21:42
As the Grenfell incident developed, five officers in their turn were placed in command of the fire service response. Today, the inquiry hears from Deputy Assistant Commissioner Andrew O’Loughlin, the third to take charge. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
61 Station Manager Walton 20.09.2018 22:37
The Inquiry hears from the second firefighter in charge of the incident, Station Manager Andrew Walton. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
60 Watch Managers Harrison and Coltress and Firefighter Johnson 19.09.2018 20:59
Watch Manager Norman Harrison tells families who lost loved ones in the fire that he hopes they get the justice they deserve. Plus, Firefighter Adam Johnson helps rescue two people from the 19th floor while running dangerously low on air. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
59 Group Manager Welch 18.09.2018 24:44
The Inquiry hears two senior firefighters – Group Manager Richard Welch and Deputy Assistant Commissioner Andrew O’Loughlin – were in charge of the incident at the same time, unaware of each other’s actions. Plus, Group Manager Welch explains his decision to stop sending firefighters above the fifteenth floor of Grenfell Tower. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Conta...
58 Assistant Operations Manager Debbie Real and Control Room Operators Angela Gotts and Aisha Jabin 17.09.2018 25:36
Control Room Operator, Aisha Jabin, describes how she tried to comfort a resident trapped on the top floor over the course of a 40 minute phone call. Deborah Lamprell died in Flat 201 on the 23rd floor with six other people. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
57 Operations Manager Alexandra Norman and Control Room Operator Peter Duddy 13.09.2018 26:59
Control Room Operator, Peter Duddy, describes how he could not persuade two families on 22nd floor to leave their flat and escape the tower. Operations Manager, Alexandra Norman, tells the inquiry she felt ‘very, very uncomfortable’ with the stay put advice. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
56 Group Manager Goulbourne, Crew Manager Morrison and Firefighter Wood 12.09.2018 20:57
The chairman of the inquiry, Sir Martin Moore-Bick, resists calls to make safety recommendations, including an immediate moratorium on flammable cladding, before the end of the year. Plus, senior firefighter Patrick Goulbourne tells the inquiry he never gave up hope residents on the top floors of the tower would be rescued. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact u...
55 Station Manager Wolfenden, Watch Managers Furnell and Leaver, Firefighters Bell and Juggins 11.09.2018 36:06
Station Manager Peter Wolfenden tells the inquiry a miscommunication between senior officers meant information from 999 calls about residents in the tower wasn’t acted on for an hour. Plus, Watch Manager Matthew Leaver tells the inquiry soon after he arrived he realised firefighters didn’t have the tools to put out the fire that night. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jon...
54 Crew Managers Codd, Gallagher and Hoare, and firefighters Fernandes, Foster, Lawson and Orchard 10.09.2018 31:55
Firefighters Katie Foster and Greg Lawson tell nine residents, including a family whose son died in the tower, to remain inside their flats as the fire spreads. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
53 Firefighters Cornelius, Herrera , Merrion, Murphy, Upton, Wharnsby, and Crew Manager McAlonen 06.09.2018 24:46
Firefighters sent to rescue people trapped on the 14th floor give their account of what happened. Zainab Deen, her son Jeremiah, and Dennis Murphy died on the 14th floor. One of their neighbours, Mohammad al-Haj Ali, was found outside the tower. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
52 Watch Manager Johnson and Station Manager Loft 05.09.2018 17:54
Watch Manager Peter Johnson tells the inquiry a lack of ‘vital’ building plans held back search and rescue efforts. He repeatedly requested the layouts from the council, but never received them. The inquiry also hears how firefighters had to deal with computer and technology problems on the night. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcas...
51 Station Managers Kipling and Myatt, Watch Managers Johnson and Moore and Firefighters King and Moore 04.09.2018 30:16
Six firefighters give evidence to the inquiry. They describe they struggled with low water pressure, falling debris and a lack of training. Producers Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
50 Group Manager Goodall and Station Manager Myatt 03.09.2018 25:05
Firefighters are overwhelmed by the volume of 999 calls. Lawyers for survivors, bereaved residents and firefighters urge the inquiry to start making recommendations based on the evidence heard so far. Producers: Kate Lamble and Elisabeth Mahy Researcher: Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
49 Ambrose Mendy 31.08.2018 10:45
Ambrose Mendy lost his cousin Mary Mendy and her daughter Khadija Saye in the fire. Recently he returned to their flat hoping to find something he could take away to remember them by. He has been at the inquiry almost every day. Sangita Myska talks to him about his experience. Producer Oliver Jones Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
48 The Story So Far 03.08.2018 12:39
If you’ve just started listening to the podcast this is a good place to start. We’ve pieced together what we’ve learnt as a result of evidence from expert witnesses and firefighters over the past nine weeks. Researcher Oliver Jones Producer Kate Lamble Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
47 Crew Manager Batcheldor, 999 Control Operator Sharon Darby and Watch Manager Beale 02.08.2018 38:44
Crew Manager Christopher Batcheldor recalls how he tried to comfort Zainab Deen who was trapped with her two-year old son Jeremiah on the fourteenth floor. Researcher Oliver Jones Producer Kate Lamble Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
46 Station Manager Mulholland and 999 Control Operator Darby 01.08.2018 20:49
Station manager Michael Mulholland tells the inquiry adhering to policy was challenging. Plus, we hear from Sharon Darby, the first 999 Control Room Operator to give evidence. Researcher Oliver Jones Producer Kate Lamble Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
45 Watch Managers Williams and Aston-O’Donovan, and firefighter Desforges 31.07.2018 26:14
Watch Manager Marc Aston-O’Donovan and firefighter Oliver Desforges help carry out nine rescues on three different floors. Researcher Oliver Jones Producer Kate Lamble Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
44 Watch Manager Williams 30.07.2018 18:56
Watch Manager Glynn Williams says he struggled to keep track of who had been rescued. Most of his information came from children. The Inquiry heard in one case a boy told the firefighter the rest of his family were “all dead”. Producer Kate Lamble, Researcher Oliver Jones. Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
43 Crew Manager Diana 27.07.2018 31:42
In a special edition of the podcast Eddie Mair speaks to Crew Manager Aldo Diana who rescued nine people. Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
42 Watch Managers de Silvo and Peckham 26.07.2018 25:25
Watch Manager Louisa de Silvo writes details of those trapped in the tower on the wall of the third floor. She sends a crew to rescue people trapped on the 23rd floor. Plus, Watch Manager Anthony Peckham describes how he watched the entire scene unfold from his command unit. He hears distraught family and friends urging firefighters to help. Contact us via email: grenfellpodcast@bbc.co.uk
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