FS Sustainability
The Greener Way
The Greener Way is your podcast for exploring the big environmental, social and governance questions. Each week, The Greener Way will focus on deep conversations with investment and corporate experts who are deeply engaged in managing the sustainability challenges facing our planet. From climate change to biodiversity, human rights and modern slavery to corporate purpose and governance, we tackle head-on the nuances and trade-offs of our complicated world. The Greener Way is the podcast of FS Sustainability, the premier weekly trade publication that covers how investors and companies are chang...
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Jul 6, 2026
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Busting the myths about renewables 12.01.2026 22:00
This week on 'The Greener Way', host Michelle Baltazar interviews Mike Harut, partner and responsible investment manager at $7bn fund manager Munro Partners. Together they discuss the biggest misconceptions about the performance of renewable companies in the US, the green stocks that defied the odds in 2025 and why TINA (short for 'There Is No Alternative') underpin the future of renewables. Mike...
Revolving door in ESG: How to keep top talent 05.01.2026 20:44
Is now a good time to look for a new role in sustainability? In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the recruitment challenges and opportunities in the sustainability sector with Richard Evans, founder and chief executive of Talent Nation. They explore critical issues including low staff retention rates, the necessity of executive support, and the impact of economic p...
Making decarbonisation easy for SMEs 29.12.2025 10:20
Great partnerships can make all the difference. In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar talks with Yossi Kraemer, co-head of capital partnerships and director of funds management at Salter Brothers. In the year where the future of sustainable investing was hotly debated following greenwashing claims and reversal of climate policies in the US, Salter Brothers defied general senti...
RIAA: The year in review 22.12.2025 15:39
2025 has been a milestone year for responsible investing. This week on The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the year that was with Estelle Parker, co-chief executive of the Responsible Investment Association Australasia (RIAA). They discuss the organisation's key achievements and the trends that reshaped the sustainable sector in the year that saw US president Donald Trump rever...
The winners and losers of 2025 15.12.2025 18:00
This week on The Greener Way Podcast, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the top sustainability trends of 2025 with Adam Verwey, co-founder of ethical investment platform Six. In this episode, they dive into the surge of shareholder resolutions in Australia, key wins and setbacks on nature risk, greenwashing and the state of funding for sustainability startups. 01:23 Shareholder resolutions and thei...
Managing physical risks with geospatial AI 08.12.2025 9:47
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar interviews Candace Coppere, head of Climate and Innovation Lab, Sustainability Business at ISS STOXX (parent company of FS Sustainability) about the latest in measuring and monitoring physical risks for real asset investors. Coppere explains how fund managers and super funds can leverage geospatial AI to turn coarse global climate data int...
COP30: What really happened 01.12.2025 15:22
COP30 Insights: Global Climate Challenges and Achievements In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar talks with Dr. Evan Center, senior manager for environment and climate change from the UN Global Compact Network Australia, about the key takeaways from the 30th annual UN Conference of the Parties (COP30) held in Brazil. They discuss the conference milestones and disappointments,...
Taking on TNFD: Navigating a new way of reporting 24.11.2025 12:36
Earlier in the year, First Sentier Group’s global head of responsible investment Kate Turner joined Jamie Williamson on The Greener Way to talk through the findings of the group’s inaugural Climate and Nature Report. In this episode, we welcome her back to the podcast to reflect on First Sentier Group’s experience in adopting the Taskforce on Nature-related Financial Disclosures (TNFD) reporting s...
How AI is changing the game on whistleblowing 17.11.2025 18:20
In this episode of the Greener Way, we explore the intersection of AI and sustainability with host Michelle Baltazar and guest Scott Lane, founding chief executive of Speeki. They delve into how Gen AI can improve whistleblowing programs, drive ESG initiatives and sustainability strategies for better corporate governance and compliance. 02:00 The role of technology in sustainability 03:59&nbs...
Navigating NSW's Planning Framework: What Investors Need to Know 10.11.2025 16:55
In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Jane Gibbs, national ESG advisory lead at Unwelt, to delve into the proposed environmental planning and assessment amendment reforms in New South Wales. The discussion covers the implications of the reforms for the sustainability and investment sectors, highlighting the establishment of a housing delivery authority and a deve...
Recharging investment portfolios with batteries and biodiversity 03.11.2025 14:42
Over the past 10 years, the investment case for batteries and battery storage has evolved phenomenally as their efficacy in supporting the energy transition became more apparent. But Australia remains behind many other developed countries, even five years behind the UK, and Gresham House chief executive Tony Dalwood says educating super funds and other institutions could be the answer. Dalwood joi...
The greener way to gold: Artisan miners on the rise 27.10.2025 16:55
This week on The Greener Way podcast, Michelle Baltazar, executive director of media at FS Sustainability, sits down with Shaokai Fan, head of asia pacific (ex china) and global head of central banks at the World Gold Council (WGC), to discuss the role of the WGC in enhancing the gold market, the significant rise in gold prices, and the importance of responsible gold mining principles. The discuss...
Understanding nature-related risks: A conversation with Mirtha Kastrapeli on ESG investing 20.10.2025 15:13
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar talks with Mirtha Kastrapeli, global head at ISS STOXX Research Institute, on how institutional investors are starting to look at 'nature' with a fresh lens. Beyond its impact on investment outcomes, many super funds can start unpacking nature-related risks and opportunities. 00:30 Welcome to The Greener Way 00:45 Introduc...
A new play in defensive assets 13.10.2025 12:41
In this episode, Australian Ethical deputy CIO and head of multi-asset, John Woods, discuss how their allocation into defensive assets, particularly government bonds, are changing. 00:00 Introduction to government bonds in ethical portfolios 00:44 Meet John Woods from Australian Ethical 02:01 Ethical considerations in government bond investments 03:17 Challenges with US Treasuries and defensive as...
Do emission targets matter? 2026 Report Insights 06.10.2025 16:36
In this week’s episode of The Greener Way, Michelle Baltazar, Executive Director of Media at FS Sustainability, chats with Julia Leske, Managing Director and Senior Consultant at ISS Sustainability in Australia, about the latest report from ISS's Climate and Nature Innovation Lab that evaluates corporate emission targets. They discuss the importance of setting ambitious climate goals, the ch...
Transparency and ESG in private credit 29.09.2025 17:04
Criticisms of private credit are typically focused on its opaque nature; as a recent ASIC report pointed out, transparency is scarce. As an ESG-led manager, Woodbridge Capital believes there’s nothing more important than transparency – and that investors working with private credit managers that don’t prioritise it put themselves at risk. Woodbridge Capital chief executive Andrew Torrington joins...
Safeguarding children's rights in the age of AI: Insights from Federated Hermes 22.09.2025 21:31
Join host Michelle Baltazar on The Greener Way as she discusses the vital topic of children's rights with Ross Teverson, regional team lead at Federated Hermes. Explore how companies must integrate safety by design in AI development, the risks of indiscriminate AI content, the rising need for regulatory consistency across global markets, and recent legislative developments aimed at safeguarding ch...
Invest like a business owner: Insights from Jai Mirchandani 15.09.2025 18:14
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Jai Mirchandani, founder and CIO of Elm Responsible Investments. Jai provides an in-depth look at sustainable investing, discussing the importance of long-term business ownership, the impact of current climate policies, and what sets his fund apart from ESG-led fund managers. He also shares his views on fintech and renewables,...
From engineering to climate policy: Frankie Muskovic's journey 08.09.2025 23:37
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Frankie Muskovic, the newly appointed Executive Director of Policy at the Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC). Frankie shares her unique journey from an engineering background to the forefront of climate policy. She shares key priorities that the IGCC brought to a recent governmental round table discussion, emphasising the...
Climate transition by numbers: Insights from Bjarne Graven Larsen 01.09.2025 26:40
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Bjarne Graven Larsen, founder and CEO of Qblue Balanced, on the hard numbers behind climate transition. Graven Larsen explains how defining and measuring climate transition involves measuring a company's societal value creation, emissions reduction, and green innovation capabilities. He highlights the challenges faced by investo...
Clearing up the confusion on product labelling 25.08.2025 21:07
Is it still the wild, wild west on product labelling for sustainable investments? In this podcast, host Michelle Baltazar chats with Dug Higgins, Head of Responsible Investment & Real Assets for the broader Zenith Group, on how financial advisers can benefit from a more rigorous debate on how investment managers address ESG and sustainability. He also explains why not all greenwashing claims a...
The 'S' in ESG: Challenger's Charlotte O'Meara on fighting modern slavery 18.08.2025 22:50
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar speaks with Charlotte O'Meara, head of responsible investment at Challenger. They delve into the issue of modern slavery and how an investor network representing $12 trillion FUM hopes to fight it. The episode highlights the efforts and frameworks developed by Challenger to assess and address modern slavery risks in their investments...
Rethinking stewardship: JANA's Rachel Halpern on balancing returns with responsibility 11.08.2025 16:10
In this episode of 'The Greener Way,' host Michelle Baltazar chats with Rachel Halpern, head of sustainability at JANA Investment Advisors, about the pivotal role asset consultants play in the evolving landscape of institutional investment. They discuss the integration of ESG themes, debunk the misconception around sustainable investing hurting returns, and explore key investment trends. Rachel al...
Understanding TCorp's Approach to Climate Change and Active Ownership 04.08.2025 20:55
In this episode of The Greener Way, host Michelle Baltazar discusses the inaugural investment stewardship report by TCorp with the company's head of investment stewardship, Alexis Cheang. Alexis shares insights on how TCorp has integrated ESG factors into their investment strategies, detailing their efforts in active ownership and the challenges faced in compiling carbon emissions data. The discus...
Enhancing emission transparency: PathZero's innovative approach to private equity 28.07.2025 13:21
In this episode of The Greener Way podcast, Financial Standard's Eliza Bavin talks with Carl Prins, Co-founder and CEO of PathZero, about the challenges superannuation funds face in managing climate-related financial risks when it comes to private equity. They discuss the need for precise emissions data, regulatory standards, and the unique approach PathZero takes to enhance data accuracy through...
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