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Jon Ronson, host of the new audible original podcast The Debutante joins us to discuss the case of Carol Howe, a wealthy young woman who fell in love with a group of neo-nazis before turning government informant. Ronson has studied American extremists for years and has thoughts on how to think about and combat them. Plus, now the Biden administration (of all administrations) is violating the Hatch...

Frances Haugen is to Instagram as Jeffrey Wigand is to big tobacco and Edward Snowden is to the NSA. She blew the whistle, exposing them for doing harm, and it changed her life for good. She joins us to discuss what that was like, and to talk about her new book, The Power of One: How I Found the Strength to Tell the Truth and Why I Blew the Whistle on Facebook . Plus, Trump backers complain about...

Silvio Berlusconi was a character without much of one. He led Italy longer than any prime minister in the post-war period, and he will be missed ... by prostitutes. In El Salvador, the president has conducted a major crackdown on crime, netting lawbreakers as well as many innocent people, and netting himself a 91% approval rating. Francisco Toro, Contributing Editor at Persuasion and contributor t...

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, in the wake of this past week's Alabama voting rights decision handed down from SCOTUS, we rewind to Mike's 2018 conversation with Gerrymander evangelist Amanda Holt, who single-handedly launched a successful movement to redrawn the election maps of Pennsylvania. Then we listen back to our June 7th Spiel, in which Mike lauds Zombie Biden. Produced by Joel P...

Rainn Wilson is the host of Peacock's The Geography Of Bliss, based on the book of the same name written by Eric Weiner. Like Weiner before him, Wilson (who played the legendary Dwight Schrute on The Office) travels the world in search of locally sourced happiness secrets. For some reason, Mike gives them both a hard time, and everyone winds up angrier at each other than one might expect from an e...

SCOTUS has ruled that Alabama's gerrymander limiting the sway of black voters is a violation of the Voting Rights Act, which, along with some smaller decisions and the general direction of the Supreme Court, we discuss with New York Times Opinion columnist David French. Plus, Gov. Doug runs! And it's an Antwentig. On a Thursday?!?! Indeed. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at theg...

SCOTUS isn't meeting us where we are says Michael Waldman, author of The Supermajority: How the Supreme Court Divided America. Waldman thinks the current court is inviting a backlash, but also that the current backlash is the result of a backlash against their more liberal predecessors. Trippy. Plus, the skies darken as the possibilities of a Zombie Biden play out … to a not particularly scary eff...

Bruce Schoenfeld, author of Game Of Edges: The Analytics Revolution And The Future Of Professional Sports joins us to discuss the costs of all the statistical advances in sports. Plus, our orange-brained, bone-burying 240,000 year-old-friends, the Homo Naaldei, and why paleoanthropologists are like parents of preschoolers. And, sorry to bury the lead here ... the Aliens have landed. Produced by Jo...

Lisa Belkin, author of Genealogy Of A Murder: Four Generations, Three Families, One Fateful Night, traces several generations of family to the muzzle of a 9-mm Luger pistol in Stamford, Connecticut. Plus Donald Trump promises voters the World, so what Ron DeSantis is promising might seem measly by comparison. And CNN's Chris Licht is the subject of a devastating profile in The Atlantic. Produced b...

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, we listen back to Mike's 2022 interview with iconic actor Stephen Root, whose many (many) credits include HBO's Barry, which just aired it's final episode last Sunday (May 28th). Then, we listen to this past Thursday's Spiel about Sacramento nazis. Yeah, there are Sacramento nazis. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com...

TC Boyle's new novel, Blue Skies , is about a twenty-something social media influencer who brings Burmese pythons into the picture. What can go wrong? It's TC Boyle, so the answer is, "Almost everything." Plus SCOTUS on WOTUS and unions. And the basics of supporting Bud Light and Chick-fil-A. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visi...

Michael Isikoff, author of Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump , returns to dig further into Russiagate, including his reaction to clips from our Monday interview with James Comey . Plus, the either not-so-strategic or not-so-important (depending who you ask) fight in Bakhmut. And a Sacramento anti-semite's 2 minutes of speaking time at a c...

Michael Isikoff, author of Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump , is an extremely straight shooter on all things Russiagate. He'll be the first to tell you that, yes, Russia was meddling in the election, but also that the media got—and continues to get—much of the basic narrative wrong. And no one is more familiar with the facts, allegations...

James Comey, was the 7th director of the FBI before being fired by President Donald Trump. He is now out with his first work of fiction, a crime-thriller titled Central Park West: A Crime Novel . Mike talks with him about writing fiction, the non-fiction work of investigating Russian election interference, and they debate in which aisle the Steele Dossier should be consigned. Plus, on HBO, hurt pe...

Author Jack Fairweather recalls the bravery of a soldier named Witold Pilecki, a Polish officer actually who did the unthinkable in his book, The Volunteer: One Man, an Underground Army, and the Secret Mission to Destroy Auschwitz hints at the undertaking. Plus, we return to 2014, when Mike first culled the herd of a pile of news clippings. And obligations of a journalistic nature. Produced by Joe...

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, we listen back to Mike's Spiel from this past Tuesday, in which he speaks at length about things he has chosen not to speak about at length. Then, in honor of Memorial Day, which in many ways feels like the kick-off of summer, we listen back to Mike's September 18, 2015 interview with Billboard music expert Chris Molanphy, which focuses on the hits of 1967...

The fat acceptance movement wants to not just de-stigmatize large body size, their adherents argue that the stigma is worse than "obesity"—a word they reject. They also reject the idea that there are some weights that are dangerous for the individual, and they push back against the idea that weight loss is actually a realistic outcome for the vast majority of people. A full show interview, and cha...

Stephen Vladeck talks Supreme Court legitimacy as well as the so called " Shadow Docket ," which is the name of his book subtitled "How the Supreme Court Uses Stealth Rulings to Amass Power and Undermine the Republic." Plus, The Desantis fail whale. And the sentencing of seditionists. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.com To advertise on the show, visit: https...

The nation's leading civil rights group issues a proclamation to avoid a large and oft-visited state; we ponder if the advisory is warranted. And the governor of said state is said to say where he'd like to move in two years time. Maybe we need to rethink this whole "United States of America" thing ... certainly that's the opinion of Kermit Roosevelt, author of The Nation That Never Was: Reconstru...

Law Professor Kermit Roosevelt, author of The Nation That Never Was: Reconstructing America's Story , is worried about the declining stature of the U.S. in the eyes of young people, including his Ivy League students. So, in a bought of patriotism and scholarship, he argues for redefining the USA as being about 150 years old. Plus, a panel of relatives of shooting victims is very sympathetic ... an...

The Arab League has welcomed back Bashar Al-Assad to the organization right as Volodymyr Zelensky pays that organization a visit. Is there a lesson to be learned? Plus, some of the odder names on the Russia Sanction list. And Howard Fishman, author of To Anyone Who Ever Asks: The Life, Music, and Mystery of Connie Converse. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at thegist@mikepesca.co...

In this installment of Best Of The Gist, we listen back to Mike's interview with Ohio State University professor Darrick Hamilton, creator of the "Baby Bonds" program which passed a crucial funding hurdle in Connecticut this week. Then, Mike's take on the narratives around the killing of Jordan Neely. "Heroism" or "evil"? How about "neither"? Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara Email us at t...

Mike speaks with former Obama State Department official Jeremy Shapiro, now the director of research at the European Council on Foreign Relations and author of " The Art of Vassalisation: How Russia's war on Ukraine has transformed transatlantic relations ." And in eulogizing Jordan Neely today, the Reverend Al Sharpton asserted that if a black man killed an Elvis impersonator on the subway, he ha...

A historic marker for Elizabeth Gurley Flynn has been removed because she was a little too communist for everyone in New Hampshire's liking. Plus, the U.S. doesn't want Putin to escalate in Ukraine, but he's all out of escalation gambits ... except the big one. And the return of economist and criminal justice expert Jennifer Doleac, host of the Probable Causation podcast. Produced by Joel Patterso...

Economics Professor Jennifer Doleac is the Co-Director of the Criminal Justice Expert Panel and host of the Probable Causation podcast. She joins Mike to talk about what we know works and the bad ideas that persist in combatting crime. Plus, the Discord Leaks aren't that leaky. And many Mayoral results show that even city residents want safety and order. Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara E...