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An interview with Wall Street Journal reporter Josh Dawsey, co-author of 2024: How Trump Retook the White House and the Democrats Lost America , covers Biden's decline, Trump's courtroom rage, and the political strategy behind legal delays. Also , how potent are Iranian-directed assassination crews? And, as the TSA begins phasing out its decades-old shoe removal policy, a look back on how we were...

Zee Cohen-Sanchez, a Bernie Sanders campaign veteran, launched "Un**** America" (we're going with Unfudge America ) to counter Charlie Kirk's influence on college campuses. But internal drama and performative purity politics quickly sabotaged the project. She recounts how influencer apologies empowered whiny critics and fractured the left's ability to wield electoral power. Plus, with nearly 100 d...

Today on The Gist we play from Mike Pesca's panel at the Cascade PBS Ideas Festival about the book Original Sin with the Authors Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sales@libsyn.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gis...

Leon Neyfakh joins the show to discuss Final Thoughts , his new podcast chronicling Jerry Springer's transformation from charismatic progressive politician to ringmaster of daytime TV chaos. They explore how Springer's earnest civic ambitions unraveled into tabloid infamy—and why he never fully distanced himself from the circus he hosted. Mike also reflects on America's confusing birthday—whether...

Professor Joan C. Williams joins the show to discuss her book Outclassed: How the Left Lost the Working Class and How to Win Them Back . She explains how the decline of unions, elite cultural codes, and a failure to value stability over novelty have fueled resentment. Mike also examines Pixar's box office collapse, the rise of "bean mouth" animation, and whether John Lasseter's departure was Me To...

The episode kicks off with a withering look at the "Big Beautiful Bill," a deficit-busting tax cut that showers the rich while hacking away at Medicaid for the poorest Americans. Then, a trip to Minnesota's Iron Range, where Bethany McLean discusses the bitter fight over Nippon Steel's bid to buy U.S. Steel—and the awkward dance between union leadership and the workers they claim to represent. It'...

Daniel Kehlmann joins to discuss The Director , his novel reimagining the life of G.W. Pabst—a brilliant German filmmaker who escaped the Nazis, only to voluntarily return. Kehlmann grapples with how much human suffering we're willing to accept as the cost of art. Later, Ben Wittes of Lawfare weighs in on the often exasperating logic behind international laws governing conflict. Plus, Republicans...

Today on The Gist , we go back into the vaults to our 2023 interview with Melissa DeRosa about her book on working with Andrew Cuomo, What's Left Unsaid: My Life at the Center of Power, Politics & Crisis . Then we play a Spiel from earlier in the week about Andrew Cuomo failing to get the Democratic nomination for mayor. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠the...

Jim O'Grady and Thomas Brennan discuss Reveal 's episode on the Marines who fought in Fallujah, exploring how the battle's brutality and moral injuries still haunt them 20 years later. In the Spiel, Haiti's use of drones against gangs runs up against the oddity of international law experts declaring such violence not technically an "armed conflict." Plus, a SCOTUS decision that pits lower courts a...

David Zweig, author of An Abundance of Caution: American Schools, the Virus, and a Story of Bad Decisions , discusses public health's blind spots—and when caution became the risk. Plus, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. reshapes the CDC's vaccine advisory panel, swapping experts for skeptics and dredging up the long-debunked thimerosal panic on his way to declaring war on mayonnaise. And in the Spiel: a U.S....

Zohran Mamdani is likely the next mayor of New York, and progressive enthusiasm is peaking—along with demands that you pronounce his name correctly. Andrew Cuomo, a man of few smiles and even fewer surrogates, concedes with the warmth of a trooper lawsuit. Mike considers whether this is Mamdani's political high-water mark, as voters begin to discover the costs, the quotes, and the Disney press jun...

Jerusalem Post military correspondent Yonah Jeremy Bob, co-author of Target Tehran: How Israel Is Using Sabotage, Cyberwarfare, Assassination—and Secret Diplomacy—to Stop a Nuclear Iran and Create a New Middle East , explains how Israel coordinated hundreds of strikes and infiltrations across Iran, what the U.S. MOP strike on Fordow actually accomplished, and why Netanyahu's longtime caution gave...

The United States has bombed Iranian nuclear facilities—an extraordinary military action authorized by a President who campaigned against prolonged wars. In today's interview, national security expert Michael Allen, host of NatSec Matters , offers insight into the Israeli strikes, Iran's capacity to respond, and what Trump's decision means for the region and the world. Plus, we weigh the risks of...

Mike's Recent appearance on Chuck Todds Podcast "The Chuck ToddCast" Want to hear more from Chuck Todd? Check out his YouTube page: www.youtube.com/@TheChuckToddCast Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sales@libsyn.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to T...

Rosebud Baker joins Funny You Should Mention with the rare gift of making life's toughest moments hilarious, and a point of view that's inseparable from the punchline. Her Netflix special Motherlode delivers pregnancy, parenting, and political edge in one biting package. We talk about her SNL writing process and how to satirize breastfeeding pressure without becoming a parenting brand. Plus: how r...

Today on The Gist, we are sharing a Pesca Plus episode on this Holiday to give you a taste of what you can get by being a Pesca Plus Member. Weekly longer episodes, Ad Free listening and more. Click the links below to subscribe. Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sales@libsyn.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visi...

Veteran diplomat Stuart Eizenstat joins The Gist to discuss The Art of Diplomacy: How American Negotiators Reached Historic Agreements That Changed the World , drawing on his work from Camp David to Holocaust reparations. He shares what it means to practice "unsympathetic empathy," how German officials came to see moral obligation in restitution, and why negotiations fail when mutual interest is a...

Helen Lewis discusses The Genius Myth: A Curious History of a Dangerous Idea , her critique of how society defines—and distorts—the concept of genius. From Hans Eysenck's wildly specific formula (preferably Jewish, born in February, lose a parent before age 10) to Picasso denying his granddaughter a paper animal because "this is the work of Picasso," Lewis explores how mythmaking inflates flawed m...

Zachary Karabell of The Progress Network and the What Could Go Right podcast lays out a case for "edgy optimism," highlighting under-covered wins in medicine, education, and public policy. From New Mexico's universal childcare to gene therapies for sickle cell disease, he argues the problem isn't a lack of progress—it's our inability to notice. Plus, a new U.S. ad from Benjamin Netanyahu adapts th...

Replay of the interview Mike Pesca did with Kat Rosenfield on The Gist List. Click the link below to subscribe for free to The Gist List. ⁠The Gist List Produced by Corey Wara Production Coordinator Ashley Khan Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ ad-sales@libsyn.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to The Gist: ⁠⁠⁠⁠...

In another edition of Is That BS? Sadie Dingfelder joins to ask: is chatting with your ficus legit, or just verbal compost? The science of sound and strawberries might surprise you. Then in The Spiel , Mike breaks down Israel's sweeping strike on Iran—targeting nuclear sites, scientists, and generals—in what may be a turning point for the region and for Ukraine. Also, New York Democrats choose bet...

Economist Allison Schraeger and Slow Boring 's Matt Yglesias join Mike to discuss the unrest in Los Angeles — and how to protest without giving Donald Trump a win. Then, the trio surveys the NYC mayoral mess — or, if not a mess, whatever government-run grocery stores are. Plus, the Big Beautiful Bill is only one of those things, and it's the worse one. Goat Grinders: summer smells, promiscuous ear...

New York Times reporter Jonah Bromwich joins to discuss Dragon on Centre Street: New York v. Donald J. Trump , his journalist account of the only Trump trial that resulted in a verdict. They explore how Alvin Bragg revived a politically fraught case using a little-known state election statute, and how, despite prosecutors' storytelling edge in court, Trump's narrative skills ultimately resonated m...

Author Matt Hongoltz-Hetling returns with The Ghost Lab , a rollicking deep dive into New Hampshire's paranormal subculture, where Bigfoot lurks behind every maple tree and alien abductees fill out grant forms. He profiles a ghost-hunting crew that includes a psychic medium, a paranormal paralegal, and a Bigfoot believer who swears the aliens took him more than once. What starts as a tour of fring...

Former Washington Governor Jay Inslee argues Democrats can win on climate—if they frame it as jobs, savings, and health, not just apocalypse. He points to his state's 62–38 vote preserving ambitious emissions policy, even in red counties, as proof voters can be persuaded. But national polls rank climate near the bottom of priorities, and skeptics like Matt Yglesias say the green agenda may be driv...