The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

"I get nervous every time. It's that passion to want to deliver the best you can and make a memorable experience. You don't want to take your foot off the gas." - Rodney Scott What makes Rodney Scott Whole Hog Barbecue unique? What is the line between a fun hobby and true passion? What challenges did Rodney face on his path to receiving a James Beard Award? What went through Rodney's head when a f...

"In divorce, we are dealing with the most raw emotions regarding a significant other and children. It’s scary. And in such a confusing and emotional time, they need someone who will tell it to them straight.” - Laura Wasser What is the most common reason that marriages end in divorce? What was it like having “America’s most feared divorce lawyer” for a father? How do Laura and her staff set bounda...

“Self-control is a form of juggling multiple, opposing goals. If the first goal opposes the other, the second goal is what we call temptation. When people are aware that they have the temptation they are better prepared mentally (and often physically) to resist.” - Dr. Ayelet Fishbach What makes a goal attainable? When does progressing toward a goal make it harder to complete? What elements go int...

Truly great attorneys know who they are. They’re willing to give every ounce. They challenge the status quo. They push beyond limits. They move forward through fear. This podcast is for every entrepreneur committed to moving the legal industry forward. Over the past 99 episodes, we have had the honor to hear insights from thought leaders, industry titans, and game changing attorneys. In this speci...

"Anyone can pull a trigger. It is very easy to kill somebody. But there is a domain of war that needs to have an unconventional aspect to it. Green Berets thrive when dropped behind enemy lines, in hostile areas, and have to think through the implications of taking the shot... Are we creating a village of potential terrorists? Or can we talk to the village leader? It is riskier. But maybe we can u...

"On November 15th, 1999, I walked out of prison with a GED and a goal. I realized being 15 was tough, no matter where you came from. So my philosophy became: if you call me, I'll show up. Let me show you how to heal yourself internally and deal with your trauma so you can have a great life. And I’ve been showing up for 22 years.” - Andre Norman In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast...

"If you've got problems in your organization, almost always, you've created them. You get the employees you deserve, and you get the culture you deserve.” - Liz Wiseman What is a high-impact player? What sets these peak performers apart? How can organizations adopt the mindsets and behaviors of high-impact players? How can law firms cultivate an agile and fluid team of leaders? Should leaders do d...

Game changing marketers are connectors at heart. They cast aside the hunt for the lowest cost-per-click and ROI in exchange for genuine relationships. They make an individual feel seen and understood while talking to thousands at once. Just as trial attorneys invest in pre-trial to maximize the value of the case, elite marketing campaigns are treated as an asset — invested generously. It is in the...

It’s easy to think of elite athletes as physical outliers, genetic anomalies who are destined for success. But of course, just because you have the tools doesn’t mean you can put it all together. The greatest athletes in any sport aren’t the most physically gifted; they’re the ones who transcended their physical limitations and became something more. Training, mental fortitude, problem solving, po...

"A lot of people have pretty outrageous lifestyles (out of balance), and then they try and fix it with what I call self-soothing. Self-soothing is, ‘How can I numb, put on hold for a while, or procrastinate? How can I take a break before I go back to the same world that caused me pain?’ Self-care is, ‘How do I have daily habits and dedications that keep my energy supply high, that keep me restored...

"We know from the Betty Ford Hazelton study that lawyers suffer from alcohol use disorder at a rate almost twice the general public. We know if you're a millennial lawyer, it’s over a third with alcohol use disorder. We are a profession in crisis from that standpoint in terms of mental health. And it's hard to be a game-changing lawyer and it's hard to lead when we're not taking care of our own me...

"You gotta be persistent and relentless. I don't know that there's anybody in this world that things are just going to be given to. People aren't going to go out of their way to help you and make your life easy. You're going to have to take agency over yourself and over your own decisions and say, ‘I'm going to help make this happen.’” - Michael Mogill How did Michael go from being broke to foundi...

“I'm happy I get to do it my own way. I get to have fun with it. I'd hear other attorneys in the community say, ‘that's so tacky’ and ‘it's unethical.’ But I'm like, ‘Good,’ you know? Don't you want to have fun? Wouldn't you like to do it your way, if you could do it your way and you could succeed?” - Dan Gerl Why did Dan transition from graphic designer, to prosecutor, to CEO of a criminal defens...

“Dark days don't last forever. You have to be open to what's coming next. In so many situations I could say that I didn't see it coming and felt blindsided. But oftentimes, I don't see the light coming. And I know that the light is even brighter because I had a dark moment.” - Kara Goldin How did Kara go from tech executive to unsweetened-water tycoon? What skills empowered Kara to turn her bevera...

There won't always be a set path to your destination — especially if you're going where no one's gone before. If there was one thread that connected the game changers we talked to this season, it's that they forge their own paths. To push themselves, these leaders build challenges that seem impossible, things no one would ever dream of doing. Then they create strategies and teams to conquer those...

Game changers see the world differently. They question convention. They break from the norm. They challenge the status quo. They know that in order to not just succeed but excel, simply doing "the done thing" isn't enough. And no matter where their passions lie, this mindset remains a constant alongside their drive to innovate. Over the course of Season 2, we've spoken with modern revolutionaries...

"More than just like the product, it's the feeling. I know in my brand, I try to make people feel like a lot of this stuff is not as overwhelming as it may seem. So they might go elsewhere and go, ‘Wow, Pat, you've been able to deconstruct this in a way that allows me to actually be able to start a podcast or to be able to start a business in a way that I never thought was possible for me.’" - Pat...

"It's short-term versus long-term. If you're in it for the money, you're going to make short-term financial decisions that will ultimately cause the business to suffer in the longer term" - Roland Frasier What gives a business potential for success? How will the legal industry change with outside money coming in? What do “seller finance” and “earn out” mean? How can leaders keep up with market tre...

"You need female leaders to help build that balance. We're part of the story. I get tired of hearing other females apologize for being great at what they do. Don't apologize for being good at your job." - Samantha Ball What is the definition of leadership? Why are women in law ditching work-life balance in favor of work-life integration? What are the common misconceptions of female leadership? Wha...

"You have to engage and connect with your clients, because at the end of the day it's that experience they have. You can get them a fantastic settlement verdict. You can do that for them, but they're going to remember how you treated them during that process." - Roopal Luhana Why is the digital age so apparent in the practice of law? What are the best ways to approach engaging with your clients? W...

"Our identities and the way we're filtering the world visually make it hard for us to have this notion of objective evidence. Objective evidence can help when it's really ambiguous, but when it's ambiguous, that's when identities and the way we filter the world matter a great deal." - Dr. Jay Van Bavel Why do people identify with certain groups? How are Jay and his team providing people with the t...

"Research has shown that power can cause a lot of negative things, but it can also cause a lot of positive things. The sort of common denominator that power does is it makes people more likely to act in situations, especially situations of ambiguity. People who are in higher positions of power are more likely to actually act." - Dr. Vanessa Bohns How can you accurately assess the influence you hav...

"You have to exhibit empathy, but you have to exhibit empathy in other ways than mouthing cliche or something like that." - Kenneth Feinberg What was the emotional impact of administering the 9/11 Compensation Fund? What are the main responsibilities of a mediator? How do great leaders deal with pushback? Why does the American legal system approach tort law differently with certain individuals? Ma...

"If you want to know if you're a leader or not, turn around and see if anybody's behind you." - Henry Cloud What makes a good leader? How important are boundaries in a professional environment? Why do people struggle approaching difficult conversations? How significant is strategy when building a team? What are the key components of emotional intelligence? Foundations: A Long Road to the Top Henry...

"I really do believe at the end of the day, we do make the community safer. There are industry changes that happened because of what we do." - Sean Claggett How do lawyers know when they're ready to take a case to trial? Why are focus groups so significant when going to trial? How important is trial preparation? What makes a good trial lawyer? From the Ground Up As an established personal injury a...