Music Business Association
The Future of What
Founded by Music Biz President, Portia Sabin as a way to educate musicians on the realities of the music business, The Future of What Podcast has become a forum where the most significant voices in our industry discuss important issues of the day. Tune in as she hosts important industry figureheads and innovators alike in exciting discussions on where the music business is headed next!
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Spotlight on Horse Feathers: Justin Ringle / Skyler Norwood 04.05.2018 52:39
Episode #121: Establishing a reputation and fan base is vital as a musician, but how can a band evolve once they’re known for a sound? On this episode, Portia sits down with Justin Ringle, whose band Horse Feathers just released their sixth album, Appreciation. Justin and longtime producer Skyler Norwood discuss developing the band’s sound while preserving its identity and how they worked to push...
LIVE in Portland: The Aesthetics of Album Art 27.04.2018 59:36
Episode #120: Album artwork is often a listener’s first impression of a record, so how does an artist successfully represent their music visually? We brought together graphic designers and music people for a panel at Design Week Portland to discuss the creative and conceptual collaborations that go into designing a record. Hear insight from designers Adam R. Garcia (Instrument, The Pressure), Tawf...
Gear Makers: Philip Graham (Ear Trumpet) / Saul Koll (Koll Guitar Co.) / Chris Benson (Benson Amps) 20.04.2018 52:15
Episode #119: Portland, OR is one of many cities that have become known as hubs of creativity. The city's "maker culture" includes a large community of creators of music gear. In fact, you could put together an entire stage set up and backline just using instruments and gear made in Portland. On this episode, we hear about how some of these businesses got started and how the city's development has...
"The Truth Behind the Supposed Decline of the Guitar": She Shreds Magazine / Bully / Trade Up Music 13.04.2018 48:32
Episode #118: Last year, outlets like the Washington Post lamented the decline of the electric guitar and the supposed absence of American guitar heroes. In September of 2017, She Shreds Magazine published an article called "We Are The 50%: The Truth Behind the Supposed Decline of the Guitar," pushing back against this narrative. On this episode, we talk with the author of the piece, Natlie Baker,...
Inclusivity in Recording: Madeleine Campbell (Women in Sound) / Terri Winston (WAM) / Andrew Jones 06.04.2018 54:26
Episode #117: “Where Are All the Female Producers?” “Why Aren’t There More Women Working in Audio?” Why don’t more women “step up” in music? These are just some of the questions that continue to baffle the mainstream music industry. Yet, there are (and have been) many talented women working in recording. On this episode, we talk to people working toward broader inclusion and accessibility in recor...
Data! What is it good for? (LIVE at Treefort) 30.03.2018 54:55
Episode #116: These days there’s nothing but data out there — social media statistics, Spotify artist insights, info about who your fans are, where they are, and when they listen to your music. But what do you do with all this data? And who is really benefiting from it? Experts Kevin Erickson (Future of Music Coalition), Erica Sinkovic (CD Baby), Susie Giang (APA), and Zeke Howard (Trailboss) join...
We'll be right back! 16.03.2018 0:58
Portia is off to SXSW and Treefort! We'll be back with a new episode on March 30th! In the meantime, check out some of our past episodes, like last week's conversation about recovery and addiction in the music industry, or brush up on the Fair Play Fair Pay Act! If you're headed to Treefort, come to our panels at JUMP!
Addiction & Recovery: Gene Bowen (Road Recovery) / Slim Moon / Rob Crow (Pinback) 09.03.2018 53:17
This episode contains discussions of addiction and suicide. Episode #115: The stereotype of “sex, drugs, and rock ‘n’ roll” is pervasive in music. The music business often fosters an environment where addiction is the norm, but many artists and industry professionals who are in recovery have successfully stayed in the industry. Today, we talk to a few of those people about their experiences, advic...
Understanding Contracts with Gandhar Savur and Horse Feathers 23.02.2018 1:00:36
Episode #114: When people start a band, they’re entering relationships that will hopefully last for years. Contracts can be helpful in remembering what you agreed to years later. We talk to lawyer Gandhar Savur about what to expect when entering into a contract with bandmates or a label. What’s normal in a record deal? How do indie label contracts generally differ from majors? What are percentage...
Unpacking the Music Modernization Act: David Israelite (NMPA) / Mitch Glazier (RIAA) / Blake Morgan 16.02.2018 56:40
Episode #113: What is the Music Modernization Act and how could it impact songwriters? On this episode we hear from people who have worked on this new bill and those whose livelihoods will be affected if it passes. David Israelite, President and CEO of the NMPA explains who the key players are and clears up some common misunderstandings surrounding the MMA. We also hear from RIAA President Mitch G...
Mastering Social Media: GLASYS / CD Baby / Bozyk Media 08.02.2018 56:55
Episode #112: Social media has become a vital tool for artists to connect with their fans, but knowing where to invest your time, energy, and even money can be difficult. After all, you probably didn’t become a musician to spend hours on Facebook figuring out which markets to advertise to. On this episode, we gather concrete tips for musicians to efficiently and effectively use social media, playl...
BONUS: Dewey Halpaus (Peer Pleasure Podcast) 31.01.2018 18:37
BONUS: Dewey Halpaus is a musician and founding member of Anatomy of a Ghost and The Burning Room. He's also toured as a guitarist for Portugal. The Man. Now, Dewey hosts The Peer Pleasure Podcast, where he interviews musicians and creatives. We discuss his music career, podcasting, and more. http://peerpleasurepodcast.com/
The Women of Pearl Jam's Crew / Mike McCready 26.01.2018 53:58
Episode #111: Last year, we recorded a conversation with the many women who hold positions in Pearl Jam's road crew, like sound engineer and production manager. The women discussed life on the road and shared their advice for young women looking for jobs in the industry. We also look back at an interview with Pearl Jam's lead guitarist, Mike McCready, about the band's activism and McCready's own w...
Apollo Playlists Curator Walt Lilly 26.01.2018 20:27
Single: Walt Lilly is a playlist curator for Apollo Playlists. He walks us through the curation process and what factors he considers when creating a playlist. Subscribe to The Future of What: hyperurl.co/krsfow Follow us: Twitter: http://bit.ly/2gOYMYM Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thefutureofwhat/ Instagram: http://bit.ly/1L6T8fl
Music-Tech Journalist Cherie Hu 25.01.2018 14:30
Single: Cherie Hu is a music-tech journalist who has written for publications like Billboard and Forbes. We talk to her about her recent article in Forbes on the push to get playlist curators paid: https://www.forbes.com/sites/cheriehu/2017/05/08/inside-the-ongoing-quest-to-get-music-curators-paid/ Subscribe to The Future of What: hyperurl.co/krsfow Follow us: Twitter: http://bit.ly/2gOYMYM Facebo...
Crosshair Music Founder Garrison Snell 24.01.2018 20:06
Single: Crosshair Music is a new company that helps independent artists pitch their music to playlist curators. We spoke with founder Garrison Snell. www.crosshairmusic.com Subscribe to The Future of What: hyperurl.co/krsfow Follow us: Twitter: http://bit.ly/2gOYMYM Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thefutureofwhat/ Instagram: http://bit.ly/1L6T8fl
Crosshair / Cherie Hu / Walt Lilly 19.01.2018 56:33
Episode #109: Playlists have been a huge driver in the growth of streaming music, and platforms like Spotify are pushing their curated playlists more than ever. Securing a coveted placement on one of the top playlists could mean millions of streams and new fans for an artist. These playlists drive discovery, chart performance, and sales, and the tastemakers creating them aren’t just kids compiling...
Liz Pelly on "The Problem with Muzak" / Resonate 12.01.2018 1:00:04
Episode #109: Writer Liz Pelly has spent the last year discussing how streaming services like Spotify and the rise of playlisting affect our the health of our music industry. She joins us on the show to break down her recent piece in The Baffler Magazine, "The Problem with Muzak." We'll also hear from Peter Harris, founder of Resonate, a cooperatively owned streaming service based on a stream-to-o...
Indie Label Spotlight: EYRST with Neill Von Tally and Blossom 05.01.2018 47:56
Episode #108: One of the most exciting labels in the Pacific Northwest is also one of its youngest. EYRST Records was founded in 2014 by artist Neill Von Tally and Martell Webster. Since then, the label has filled its roster with promising artists, including acts like The Last Artful, Dodgr and Myke Bogan who have garnered national attention. We talk with Neill Von Tally and local artist Blossom a...
Looking Back at 2017 22.12.2017 1:17:27
Episode #107: We talked to so many remarkable people this year, so we're looking back on some of our favorite interviews of 2017. Including: Jack Stratton (Vulfpeck), Greg Kot and Jim DeRogatis (Sound Opinions), Greg Saunier (Deerhoof).
Indie Label Spotlight: Father/Daughter Records with Jessi Frick and Shamir 15.12.2017 53:05
Episode #106: 2010 was arguably one of the hardest years for the music industry, but that didn’t stop manager and publicist Jessi Frick from starting an independent record label with her father, Ken Hector. Since then, Father/Daughter has released acclaimed albums by Pure Bathing Culture, Diet Cig, Vagabon, Nnamdi Ogbonnaya, and more. The label has also gained a reputation for being fiercely artis...
#IRespectMusic's Blake Morgan 08.12.2017 52:40
Episode #105: On this episode we hear from musician Blake Morgan about starting the largest grassroots movement in music history. The #IRespectMusic campaign has been supported by creators from David Lowery to David Byrne. Morgan tells us how #IRespectMusic was inspired, why he believes musicians should be paid for their hard work, and how middle class artists have more power than they think. Lear...
Bonus: Cindy Wilson (The B-52s) 01.12.2017 38:34
Episode #104: 2017 marks the 40th anniversary of iconic band The B-52s. It's also the year founding member Cindy Wilson embarked on her solo career, releasing her debut, 'Change,' on December 1st through Kill Rock Stars. On this episode, Portia talks with Cindy about her new album, adapting to today's music industry, and her advice for new musicians.
Portland's Thriving Hip Hop Scene and Beyond 01.12.2017 55:02
Episode #103: Portland, OR has been home to a unique hip hop and rap community for decades, with veteran artists like Vursatyl, Cool Nutz, and Libretto paving the way. Now, up and comers like Amine, Myke Bogan, The Last Artful, Dodgr, Mic Capes, Vinnie DeWayne, Wynne, and more are creating a new era. So what does it take to foster a healthy music scene no matter the genre or locale? We discuss wit...
Net Neutrality 24.11.2017 1:08:42
Episode #92: The internet is a vital tool for artists, but without the protections that ensure a level playing field, creators’ ability to earn a living comes under threat. Now, the FCC plans to do away with these protections. On today’s episode, we dive into the murky waters of net neutrality, copyright, and tech giants. We hear from Thirsty Ear Recordings Peter Gordon about why musicians should...
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