Michael B. Horn
The Future of Education
Interviews with the top innovators & changemakers so that you can stay on top of the trends transforming transform learning, education, and the development of talent worldwide so that all individuals can build their passions, fulfill their potential, and live a life of purpose michaelbhorn.substack.com
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Jun 15, 2026
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From Passion to P&L: How a Microloan Program Is Helping Build Sustainable Microschools 15.09.2025 34:07
Bill Hansen, CEO of Building Hope, and Raphael Gang, Director of K12 Education at Stand Together Trust, joined me to discuss the launch of a pioneering microloan fund specifically designed for microschool founders. We explored the goals, mechanics, and early learnings from the pilot program, which offers low-interest startup loans to help microschool entrepreneurs navigate financial and facility c...
Why We Need New Ways To Invest in Education Organizations 08.09.2025 42:22
Callie Riley of Cambiar Education, Ashley Beckner of Lemnis, and Matt Haldeman of DCDO join me to explore the evolving landscape of funding mechanisms for education organizations. Our conversation dove deep into the limitations of traditional nonprofit and for-profit funding pathways, as we highlighted how new, creative financing models can unlock greater impact, sustainability, and innovation. Th...
Why This Leader Argues that Embracing School Choice Is Imperative for Students—and Democrats 27.08.2025 25:29
Jorge Elorza, the former mayor of Providence and now CEO of Democrats for Education Reform (DFER), joined me to talk about why it’s imperative in his view to support educational choices for families. Jorge talked about his own struggles as a high school student to becoming a law professor. He explained why he thinks that Democrats have lost their way on education reform, the role of governors and...
What Will It Take For School-Company Partnerships to Thrive 18.08.2025 27:02
Jessica Gelman, CEO of Kraft Analytics Group (KAGR), and Hillary Casson, CEO of UP Education Network, joined me to discuss their partnership designed to connect middle school students with real-world professional experiences. The conversation explores why early exposure to professional environments is crucial for student growth, details the logistics and structure behind successful school-company...
On the Evolution of Microschools 28.07.2025 25:25
Don Soifer, CEO and co-founder of the National Microschooling Center, joined me to discuss the Center’s latest comprehensive report on the evolution of American microschools. We explored how microschools are growing in size, serving a wider age range, and increasingly enrolling students with diverse needs. We also delved into differences between microschools in states with and without Education Sa...
Amidst the Chaos, an Opportunity to Build 16.07.2025 37:46
Macke Raymond, the program director of Stanford’s Hoover Institution’s Program on U.S. K–12 Research and former director of CREDO, joined me to discuss the need for a new “operating system” in American public education. We spent time diving into the recommendations from the Hoover Institution’s recent report, “ Ours to Solve Once and for All ,” which calls for reimagining the roles of federal, sta...
Reject One-Size-Fits-All Bans on Phones in School 23.06.2025 27:31
On this episode, Ulric Shannon, Executive Director of the Surge Institute in Chicago, and Kyla Mathews, principal of Epic Academy High School, join me to talk about the controversial issue of banning smartphones in schools. While acknowledging the negative impact of excessive phone use, both guests argue against blanket bans and instead emphasize the importance of teaching responsible use and enga...
Clay Christensen's Practical Lessons for an Education Leader 16.06.2025 38:41
Tyler Thigpen, CEO and head of school at the Forest School and Acton Academy, joined me again to discuss the powerful impact that my mentor, Clay Christensen, and his theories of innovation had on Tyler’s practical approach to education leadership and innovation. We dove into topics such as identifying and developing capable leaders, designing for sustainability, integrating around a Job to Be Don...
What AI Can Do For Online Learning Simulations 02.06.2025 31:40
Dave McCool, founder and CEO of Muzzy Lane, joined me to discuss the role and potential of AI in creating dynamic, role-play simulations for online learning. Dave shared the journey of Muzzy Lane, from its early days developing history games for schools to its current focus on enabling educators to easily build their own customizable, auto-graded simulations across more than 100 higher-education c...
The New Dynamic Core Curriculum Market 26.05.2025 35:57
Jeff Livingston, founder and CEO of EdSolutions, joined me to explore the rapidly evolving core curriculum market. The conversation traces how the once-static, “big three” publisher-dominated landscape has fractured because of shifting state adoption cycles, politics, digitalization, and the emergence of new competitors. Jeff explained how the dynamics have shifted from national dominance to regio...
Investing in Opportunity with Michelle Rhee 19.05.2025 27:35
Michelle Rhee, former chancellor of D.C. Public Schools and now a venture partner at Equal Opportunity Ventures, joined me to talk about her own unexpected journey to venture capital and how she’s found reasons for hope and optimism among entrepreneurs. We also discussed EO Ventures’ unique thesis for accelerating economic mobility through market-driven solutions and highlighted some of their inve...
Bringing Personalized Music Education to the Masses 28.04.2025 29:08
Lukas Barwinski-Brown, CEO of the Lang Lang International Music Foundation, joined me on this episode. For those who don’t know, Lang Lang stands apart as one of the premier pianists in the world. Lukas shared his unexpected journey to leading the foundation and discussed its mission to ensure that music education is accessible to all children, regardless of their background. Lukas emphasized the...
Inside the Demand Side of Families Using ESAs 21.04.2025 32:20
Mike Goldstein joined me to talk about the evolving landscape of education savings accounts (ESAs) and the experiences of families utilizing them. Goldstein, who has been researching the reality for families on the ground in states like Florida and West Virginia, shares insights into how different types of families—those in reactive situations looking to escape traditional schooling and proactive...
10 Years of Wildflower Microschool Growth for Teachers & Students 14.04.2025 49:33
Matt Kramer, CEO and co-founder of Wildflower Schools joins me to delve into the origin and growth of Wildflower Schools, a network of microschools rooted in the Montessori philosophy. The network now boasts 72 schools across the country. Kramer shares his insights on how to create environments that empower teachers as leaders so that their unique qualities and visions shine through. We also discu...
Tyler Thigpen on Self-Directed Learning 07.04.2025 37:32
Tyler Thigpen wears a lot of hats. He’s the co-founder and head of The Forest School: An Acton Academy in south metro Atlanta; co-founder and head of the Institute for Self-Directed Learning; an instructor and academic director at the University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Education; and the coauthor of a new book, The Playbook for Self Directed Learning , which provides strategies for tran...
In the Nitty Gritty of Education Choice 31.03.2025 41:40
Patricia Levesque, CEO of ExcelinEd, and Ben DeGrow, Senior Policy Director of Education Choice at ExcelinEd, join me to delve into the evolving landscape of educational choice. Our discussion centered on the uptick in states implementing educational savings accounts (ESAs) and the various questions surrounding their implementation, specifically academic accountability, financial safeguards, and e...
Rethinking Education: Is the Customer Always Right? Stride, Inc. CEO Weighs In 24.03.2025 36:53
James Rhyu, CEO of Stride Inc., joined me for a thought-provoking conversation in their 25th-year of operations. Rhyu shared his journey from accountant to CEO of Stride, Inc. He emphasized the importance of viewing students as customers. We then delved into the potential of online learning to overcome stigmas and serve diverse student needs, including safety and flexibility for those struggling w...
The State of Educational Choice 17.03.2025 44:21
Andrew Clark, president of yes. every kid., joined me to discuss the current landscape of educational choice in the United States. The conversation delved into the rise of Education Savings Accounts (ESAs), specifically their widespread adoption and impact on public schooling and education spending. Clark shared insights from his experiences as a lobbyist and argued for the popularity of universal...
The Move from School Choice to Education Choice in Florida 10.03.2025 33:01
Ron Matus, the Director of Research and Special Projects at Step Up For Students, joined me to discuss the evolution of education choice in Florida. We talked specifically about the significant growth and impact of education savings accounts (ESAs) on the landscape. And Ron shared insights into the trend of unbundled, à la carte learning by highlighting its rapid adoption and the factors driving i...
A Disruptive Approach to Training Health-Care Talent 03.03.2025 26:27
In this latest episode, I got to join forces with my colleague Ann Somers Hogg, who leads health-care research at the Christensen Institute and hosts the podcast, Life-Centered Health Care . Our guest was Craig Sprinkle, CEO of MedCerts. We discuss how MedCerts trains health-care professionals, from how it delivers hands-on learning through remote instruction to the savings students have incurred...
Mastery and Music 24.02.2025 4:32
We wouldn’t ask a piano student to attempt an advanced concerto before they had Mary Had a Little Lamb down pat. So why do we do the equivalent in schools? In this video I use a comparison to music instruction to illustrate why tying school curriculum to students’ ages rather than their skill level doesn’t work for anyone. (music playing) Oh, hey there. I was just brushing up on a piece that I hav...
Anti-semitism in K–12 Schools 18.02.2025 25:51
There has been a national discourse around the wave of anti-semitism that has swept across higher education since the start of the Hamas-Israel war in 2023. But what has it looked like at the K–12 level—and what can that teach us about combating hate more generally? To tackle those questions, I sat down with Tyler Gregory, CEO of the Jewish Community Relations Council, the largest collective voice...
Learning about Interdependence and Modularity through Music 10.02.2025 10:50
Is it better for education solutions to have an interdependent, self-contained design or a modular one? Well, it depends. That contradicts the advice of a lot of CEOs and investors who adhere to one or the other view. In this video, I use music as a metaphor to help explain the tradeoffs and best uses of each architecture. Thanks for reading The Future of Education! This post is public so feel fre...
Surviving Disruption 03.02.2025 6:48
Often, incumbent leaders recognize well in advance that they’re being disrupted by a new innovation but feel powerless to make the changes needed to survive. In other words, they’re held captive by their pre-existing business model. In this video, I use music as a vehicle for explaining why organizations respond to threats with such rigidity and how they can be more nimble when it matters most. On...
Project-Based Learning vs. 'Drill-and-Kill'? Just Say Yes. 27.01.2025 7:08
A false dichotomy has formed in the education world: rote practice versus project-based learning. As in music, it’s important to both drill the knowledge & skills AND pull it all together into a cumulative performance. Thanks for reading The Future of Education! This post is public so feel free to share it. I have a confession. When I was a kid, food fights, I kind of got the appeal. But as an adu...
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