Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford

The Experimental Leader

Business EN ↓ 164 episodes

Are you a business owner, executive, leader, team leader, aspiring future leader, leadership junkie, a scientist, a design thinker, or simply the leader of your own life? If you are, then you are a leader, and as such, you should be experimenting! Welcome to The Experimental Leader, a podcast where we tackle the ways leaders are experimenting in their own work. Hosted by Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford, we dive into the most interesting questions about leaders and get into real-life conversations about how people might be experimenting with their leadership. What they are trying? How the...

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Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford

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Business

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experimentalleader.com

Latest episode

Jun 30, 2026

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Episodes

Using Academic Theory and Applying it to the Corporate Setting to Achieve Business Results with Steve Yacovelli 08.04.2022

It was just great talking to Steve Yacovelli.  I love this idea of feedback being a gift. I think it is a great gift to have access to information. Often as leaders, we're afraid of information if it doesn't align with what we believe. And so I encourage you, as you get information, to see it as information to be curious about what you knew already. What you didn't know and not to leap to an...

Eliminating Self Doubt, Anxiety & Mental Blocks with Adrian Moreno 31.03.2022

Well, it was great being here with Adrian Moreno, and I am so conscious of this idea of the idea of fostering a dream. This is true for coaching. It's true for hypnosis, I feel like we can all tune up our brains a little bit. So I want to challenge you as just a human being to think about yourself, your thoughts, what you're calling forth for yourself, and do a little tune-up on the inside. Think...

Experimenting with Being All of Who You Are as a Leader with Bryna Haynes 17.03.2022

Well, it was fantastic to talk to Bryna Haynes about the idea of thought leadership. The idea is that you can put your ideas out into the world as something substantial. And I think this is such interesting for people. It's one of the bases of how I work with leaders. Coaching is to find out how they want to impact the world and what they uniquely offer to their profession. So it isn't just about...

Achieve Excellence by Doing Ordinary Things Extraordinarily Well with Dave McKeown 10.03.2022

Well, it was great to talk to Dave today. And I love that he was talking about reactivity. And I have a gift for you. I have a cheat sheet that's about toxic leadership behaviors. You might find them in yourself. You might find them in others. You can get that at reactivecheatsheet.experimentalleader.com. I'm proud of this. And I think it's a really helpful way to just think about how you wor...

Reputation Management for Leaders with Bant Breen 03.03.2022

I love getting to talk to Bant Breen. He was fantastic. And I love this idea of curating your presence online. I also like the idea of, you know, picking three things that you can focus on so that you're not trying to be all things. It's part of that personal leadership brand. Who are you? What do you want to move in this world? What's your vision of a perfect world? And how do you comment on that...

Learning How to Find, Bid, and Win Profitable Contracts with Kizzy Parks 24.02.2022

Well, it's just been amazing to be here with Kizzy Parks today. I'm still thinking about bottlenecks. I'm fascinated by how she got her records and all of the different areas that she worked on improving flow.  So there's the visual field. There was how her feet landed on the ground. I'm sure there's something about how fast her arms went around. And I just want to leave you with that thought...

Experimenting with conflict with Sean Castrina 17.02.2022

Well, it's been great talking with Sean Castrina. I am so grateful for the thoughts that we explored on here.  As leaders, we have to be thinking about who we are. We have to think about someone. We have to think of the fights we pick and what we invest in. And I challenge you to experiment with the conversations you need to have and with who you are in those conversations. Love the show? &nb...

Overcoming Adversity, Resilience and Keeping a Positive Mindset with Fiona Demark 10.02.2022

Well, it was fun talking to Fiona Demark.  I am so struck by the idea that when you're choosing one thing, you're not choosing another. And that is to be respectful in your own life. You will need to be okay with that. I think that's such a powerful thought. And I encourage all of you to experiment with that. To be at peace with what you choose to do and what you can do. And to honor your jou...

Leading Disruption with Sam Nguyen & Hunter Smith 03.02.2022

So it was interesting to talk to Sam and Hunter about disruption. I'm fascinated. I like inviting people to my show because I love that leadership skills translate as they go across, you know, different kinds of work.  They work in our home lives. So the thing that I noticed is, you know, a clear vision is still a good leadership skill. Best practices are still a good leadership style, and th...

Helping Remote Communication Suck Less with Josh Little 27.01.2022

Well, that was fun. And I love the idea of Volley as on-demand communication. It fits in line with the Toyota Kata stuff around just in time. And I love all of that. I think it's iterative. So you can have more iteration of exactly what you need to remove bottlenecks and to do it right at the last second. Or you know to repeat the questions often enough to remove your bottlenecks one after the oth...

Addressing Bias and Incivility in the Workplace with Robin Rosenberg 20.01.2022

It was just fascinating getting to talk with Dr. Robin Rosenberg. And I loved all of the talks about onboarding and how you think about the way that you approach conversations from a leadership perspective. And also how you see the conversations for the people on teams who are welcoming new team members. How do you invite them to be curious? How do you invite them to have today be a new day? To th...

Highly Sensitive Leading with Heather Dominick 20.12.2021

So I loved talking with Heather Dominick today. It was such an interesting conversation. And what I noticed is that all of the things that Heather's suggested, sort of acceptance, and all of this is a part of improving feedback loops. We don't want people to be overwhelmed because we want them to take the information. We want them to be able to share information. So if we look at the experime...

Designing New Workplace Experiments with Melissa Boggs 09.12.2021

I love Melissa's spirit. I love that she talked about experimenting. And you know, of course, that's near and dear to my heart. And the thing that I loved about it so much is that there was a clear intention behind it. We knew what we wanted to change. We wanted to change the way the hiring process felt in both directions. She also wanted to have better outcomes. And as somebody who does the...

Experimenting with Long-Term Strategy with Mark Sherkey 02.12.2021

Well, I've been talking with Mark Sherkey , and I've loved our conversation. And I love that he differentiated between strategy and plans because I kind of hate strategic plans. It's like they are out of date.  The second is that you do them because you've made a plan based on the current condition, but then your goals need to change because every time you start implementing whatever the goal...

Self Awareness Strategies for Success with Dr. L Carol Scott 25.11.2021

It was great to be here with Dr. Carol Scott. And I love these ideas that are super practical that she shared. And it makes me think about how we experiment as leaders with ourselves, with our thoughts giving ourselves a break but trying something new. The next time learning to repattern is an experimental process. These objects exemplify how you are now and other objects that illustrate how you w...

Experimenting with Copywriting with Nicki Krawczyk 19.11.2021

It was just such a compelling interview. Nicki, she's so interesting. I'm left pondering this idea of whether or not leaders can have bad days. I think one of the things that we bring to organizations as leaders is that bright-eyed bushy-tailed energy not all the time and not in a cloying way, and not in a fake way. There's some authenticity around it all but I do think being able to walk pas...

Thriving with Dr. Jeanne Michele 11.11.2021

It was so great connecting with Dr. Jeanne Michele. I loved how it comes down to deep listening. And then, authentically speaking. When I think about the experimental leader and feedback loops, those are the heart. Have good feedback loops, both in your personal life and your work life and leadership. It's the way that information flows. So I challenge you to think about your listening this week,...

Experimenting with Marketing and Profit with Nikki Nash 04.11.2021

I talk about experimenting as a leader all the time, but I think marketing is one of the purest places because we attach dollars to our marketing, and we're used to track so we can use some of the ideas that we employ in marketing. When we do other thought leadership in organizations, we can think about what we want, what we're trying, and what we want to measure. We can think about how we do that...

Leading A Remote Team With Kevin Eikenberry 21.10.2021

Kevin Eikenberry, the Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group and the Co-Founder of the Remote Leadership Institute, joins Melanie Parish to share how to lead a remote team and how to develop them. Tune in and learn more! Love the show?  Subscribe, rate, review, and share! Here’s How » Join The Experimental Leader community today: melanieparish.com YouTube

Leading Profound Transformation with Sophie Mclean 14.10.2021

There are many different ways to get to innovation and use things like religion and spirituality as teasers or flirts from the world to revitalize our leadership and deepen our leadership. And to think about the idea of alleviating suffering is an exciting way to take some of the charges out of the ways that we need to change.  The show's guest in this episode is Sophie Mclean. Sophie talks w...

Running Yourself Ragged 24.09.2021

What happens to you as a leader when you've been working hard? Trying to be the best that you can be. And for a while, it might feel good. Suddenly, there's a couple of things that happened. You hit a bump, but you keep coming back at that same pace that was super fulfilling. Then you start to feel some signs of burnout. You feel like you're running yourself ragged. Everybody goes through thi...

Kata As A Tool 16.09.2021

Think of your biggest challenge and walk yourself through the questions in the Experiment Kata. Then, figure out when you're going to look again, what you're going to try next and when you're going to go back and see what you've learned. And then you figure out your next experiment. Grab a copy of the Experiment Kata by sending an email to melanie@experimentalleader.com . You can read more about t...

Values Are The Filter Thru Which The Vision Is Executed By The Mission 09.09.2021

We spend so much time creating our vision and our mission for our organizations. And that's all great because we have to do that as leaders. I think of values as the filter that we put those things through because they're really like the spice, and the flavor and the feel of how you're going to do things as a leader.  Everything we do gets filtered through those lenses to make sure that we're...

Feeling Good About Your Own Leadership 02.09.2021

I've been thinking about how leaders can feel good about their leadership. And so many times, we're in a learning mode or growing mode. And as soon as we start to learn some new things and try to implement them, we find ourselves sort of falling into some imposter syndrome or finding ourselves feeling uncertain about the path that we're on. Love the show?  Subscribe, rate, review, and share!...

Using The 5 Senses To Foster Creativity 26.08.2021

Your job as a leader is to foster creativity. There are so many ways that you can do it. Think about fostering creativity as to how to ask creative questions, and how people tap into that creativity. Those are some really good starts for how you can impact your environment in a positive way to create a creative flow. Giving space for creativity can also be really important. So my challenge to you...

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