Hosted by: Mike Payne

The Ethically Immoral Podcast

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The Ethically Immoral Podcast is a program dedicated to long-form conversations with poets, spoken word artists, authors, and creatives who use language as a tool for truth-telling, healing, and resistance. Hosted by Mike Payne, the show travels beyond the typical interview to explore the personal histories, artistic philosophies, and cultural contexts that shape the voice of the Creatives we welcome.   It’s not just about poetry or performance — it’s about the people behind the pen. We talk about identity, healing, joy, frustration, and the journey of becoming. Some moments are deep, others a...

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Jun 29, 2026

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Volume Four: Chapter Twenty - Our Conversation with Shanet OB 12.01.2025

From her bio: Shanet OB is the author of three poetry books and a children’s book. Journey into 666 is Shanet’s first erotica poetry book. She started writing lyrics at the age of eight which transitioned into poetry. In 2005 Shanet won the National Fine Arts Exhibit sponsored by the Boys & Girls Clubs of America for her artwork “Vogue of Colors.” She placed first in her age category at the 20...

Volume Four: Chapter Break 29.12.2024

No guest this week as we celebrate the holidays with family, however we have produced a Chapter Break (a pause between Chapter numbers) that includes a collection of spoken word performances by a number of our favorite Performance Poets. Happy holidays! Featured Spoken Word Performances this week include: Candace Nicholas-Lippman - Ten IG: @candace.nicholas.lippman X: @candacethepoet Joshua Bennet...

Volume Four: Chapter Nineteen - Our Conversation with Leslie Saint-Julien 23.12.2024

In Volume Four Chapter Nineteen, we welcome Poet, Actress, performance Poet, and Author of the books "More Than Me" and "A Cup of Me", Leslie Saint-Julien. Leslie also stars as Janae McRae in the movie "Men Dont Cheat" currently available on YouTube and Amazon Prime. From Leslie's "About Me" page: "Leslie holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Criminol...

Volume Four: Chapter Eighteen - Our Conversation with Dara Kalima 16.12.2024

In Volume Four: Chapter Eighteen we welcome Teaching Artist, Poet, Actress, and Author of the award-winning book "Still Laughin", Dara Kalima. Contact Dara: IG: @darakalima Website: darakalima.com X: @kaliskorner Dara's Podcast: On Behalf Of Purchase Dara's Book: Still Laughin' Recorded Spoken Word Performances featured in this Chapter Included: Alyeshia Wise - The Intervi...

Volume Four: Chapter Seventeen - Our Conversation with Crystal Stone 09.12.2024

Its the return of The Podcast and in it we welcome Educator, Poet, Spoken Word Artist, and Author of the poetry collection "This is Not a Poem", Crystal Stone. From crystalbstone.com: Crystal Stone is author of six collections of poetry including Knock-Off Monarch (2019), All the Places I Wish I Died (2021), Gym Bras (2022), Civic Duty (2022), This is Not a Poem (2023), and White Lies (F...

Volume Four: Chapter Sixteen - Our Conversation with Barbara Fant 12.06.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter Sixteen, we welcome Teaching Artist, Poet, Spoken Word Artist and Author of the new book Mouths of Garden, friend of The Podcast Barbara Fant. Connect with Barbara: Twitter: @bloombarbfant Website: barbarafant.com IG: @bloombarbfant Recorded spoken word performances in this Chapter include: Brandon Alexander Williams: Black Women Studies IG : @brandonalexanderwilliams Twitt...

Volume Four: Chapter Fifteen - Our Conversation with Zulmie Da Poet 02.05.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter Fifteen, we welcome Teaching Artist, Poet, Host of the podcast The Word Trap, Writer, and Author fr the poetry collection Rotten Soup, Zulmie Da Poet.   Zulmie was born in New York and completed her undergraduate degree at Norfolk State University in Norfolk, Virginia with a Bachelor of Arts in History Liberal Arts and completed graduate studies at Regent University in Virg...

Volume Four: Chapter Fourteen - Our Conversation with Alyesha Wise 24.04.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter Fourteen, we welcome Teaching Artist, Poet, Performance Poet, Writer, Advocate, Author of the poetry collection Carnival, and co-founder of the Spoken Lit Movement , a Los Angeles-based arts organization designed to uplift and support poets both in and out of  L.A. , Alyesha Wise. Alyesha is a published poet and TEDx speaker from Camden, N.J. Currently residing in LA, she i...

Volume Four: Chapter Thirteen - Our Conversation with Dr. Tara Betts 04.04.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter Thirteen, we welcome teaching Artist, Poet, Performance Poet, Writer, Advocate, and Author of the upcoming poetry collection Refuse To Disappear, Dr Tara Betts. Kankakee, IL born and Chicago-based Dr. Betts is the Author of two full length poetry collections Arc and Hue and Break the Habit, and has published a number of chapbooks including Switch, Can I hang, and Circling U...

Volume Four: Chapter Twelve - Our Conversation with Jolanda Malone 27.03.2022

 In Volume Four: Chapter Twelve, we welcome North Carolina-based Poet, Writer, Life Coach, Animal Advocate, and Entrepreneur, Jolanda Malone.  Jolanda's non-profit organization Beartha was founded in January 2001 and named in honor of her grandmother Bertha. She says of living with her grandmother " growing up in the South Bronx we lived in a house that felt like a mansion. She always we...

Volume Four: Chapter Eleven - Our Conversation with Kelsey Bigelow 14.03.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter Eleven, we welcome Poet, Spoken Word Artist, Author of the Chapbook Sprig of Lilac, Kelsey Bigelow. Her debut spoken word album Depression Holders and Secret Keepers is available now via all streaming platforms and via her website . Kelsey Bigelow is based in Des Moines. She aims to be the motivator and mentor people don't always get in life. In her work, she molds inc...

Volume Four: Chapter Ten - Our Conversation with Ephraim Nehemiah 21.02.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter Ten, we welcome Teaching Artist, Poet, Spoken Word Artist, Slam Poet, and Author of the book The Autobiography of Absence, Ephraim Nehemiah.  A published writer, educator and nationally touring performer. Their work sits comfortably in the Black cultural lineage of griots who are dedicated to using truth to document and critique the world around them. Ephraim holds a B.A. i...

Volume Four: Chapter Nine - Our Conversation with Vanessa Verse 31.01.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter nine, we welcome Vanessa Verse. Vanessa was born and raised in South Seattle, Washington. Both of her parents are from the Philippines and immigrated to the states. Coming from a Filipino family, talking about feelings and emotions was uncommon in the household. Turning to poetry was an outlet when she felt that no one would listen or understand. She's most recognized...

Volume Four: Chapter Eight - Our Conversation with Roscoe Burnems 24.01.2022

In Volume Four: Chapter Eight of The Podcast, we welcomed Educator, Poet, Spoken Word Artist, Author of the book God, Love, Death, and other Synonyms, and 2021 Richmond Virginia Poet Laureate, Roscoe Burnems.  Richmond Virginia native, Douglas Powell/Roscoe Burnems is a poet, published author, spoken-word artist, comedian, educator, father, husband, and Richmond, VA's inaugural poet laureate,...

Volume Four: Chapter Seven - Our Conversation with T.C. Blackwell 03.01.2022

 In Volume Four: Chapter Seven of The Podcast, we welcomed Poet, Writer and Author of the book Hypethically the Craziest Shit I've Ever Done, T.C. Blackwell. TC is a novelist, publisher, and lifelong storyteller. Her first novel “The Lies Behind My Eyes” was published in 2019. The novel is dedicated to her twin sister who passed away before the novel was completed.  Hypothetically The Crazies...

Volume Four: Chapter Six - Our Conversation with Robert Lashley 27.12.2021

In Volume Four: Chapter Six of The Podcast, we welcomed Poet, Playwright, Essayist, and Author of the new poetry collection Green River Valley, Robert Lashley. Robert is a 2016 Jack Straw Fellow, Artist Trust Fellow, and nominee for a Stranger Genius Award. He has work published in The Seattle Review of Books, NAILED,  Poetry Northwest, McSweeney’s , and The Cascadia Review . His poetry was also f...

Volume Four: Chapter Five - Our Conversation with Bella 06.12.2021

In Volume Four: Chapter Five of The Podcast, we welcomed Educator, Poet, Spoken Word Artist, Author of the book Side Effects of Remembering the Litte Things and the 2019 Portland Grand Slam Champion, Bella. Connect with Bella: IG: @bella_soul_ Recorded spoken word performances in this Chapter include: L3thal Po3t: Superhero IG : @l3thalpo3t Website: lethalpoet.net Ebony Stewart: White Men Say Weir...

Volume Four: Chapter Four: Our Conversation with Gayle Danley 15.11.2021

 In Volume Four: Chapter Four of The Podcast, we welcomed Teaching Artist, Poet,  Spoken Word Artist and Author, Gayle Danley. Gayle also is the founder of Grief Friend , a resource for those moving through the experience of losing a loved one, the founder of Lessons in Poetry - a virtual curriculum that produces teaching videos and poetry lessons for learners in grades K-8, and she is the host of...

Volume Four: Chapter Three - Our Conversation with Drew Jackson 07.11.2021

 In Volume Four: Chapter Three, we welcomed Pastor of Hope Village NYC , Poet and Author of the new book God Speaks Through Wombs , Drew Jackson. Drew is a poet who came late to writing poetry, although he would say that his love for the art form began with hip-hop, learning to put words together from Nas’ Illmatic . He writes at the intersection of justice, peace, and contemplation, having a pass...

Volume Four: Chapter Two - Our Conversation with Kennie Sings 31.10.2021

 In Volume Four: Chapter Two, we welcomed Poet , Writer, Spoken Word Artist, and friend of The Podcast, Kennie Sings. Kennie, making her third appearance, discusses her new podcast Hidden Lines Podcast , performing virtually vs performing live on stage after COVID, bad poetry, and more. Connect with Kennie Sings: IG: @kennie_sings Recorded spoken word performances in this Chapter include: Jae Nich...

Volume Four: Chapter One - Our Conversation with Sharnnell Spivey 24.10.2021

 In the premiere of Volume Four, we welcomed Poet and Author of the book Thou Shall Not , Sharnnell Spivey. Thou Shall Not is a suspenseful thriller that concerns a group of people interconnected by their personal and professional relationships. The attraction that comes from breaking the seven deadly sins and the 10 Commandments affects each person in the novel, whether it is the handsome and suc...

Volume Three: Chapter Twenty - Featuring Various Performance Poets 12.10.2021

Volume Three: Chapter Twenty is the final Chapter in this volume and we are featuring six of our favorite live performances of his past volume. Featured Spoken Word Performances featured in this Chapter included: Tonii2Eyes - Title Unknown (performance from Chapter Three) IG: @tonii2eyes Tarika Holland - What its Like being Me (performance from Chapter Thirteen) Website: is0latedbeauty.com Shanell...

Volume Three: Chapter Nineteen - Our Conversation with Holly Toomer 26.09.2021

 In Volume Three: Chapter Nineteen, we welcome Life Coach, Poet, Spoken Word Artist, author of the book Lunar honey and artist, Holly Toomer. Holly is also the host of Conversations with Belle, which can be heard via all podcast platforms. Connect with Holly: IG: @bellewoodz Purchase her book: Lunar Honey Recorded spoken word performances in this Chapter include: TJ Dema: Dreams IG : @tjdema Twitt...

Volume Three: Chapter Eighteen - Our Conversation with James Nguyen 19.09.2021

In Volume Three: Chapter Eighteen of the podcast we welcomed Poet, Spoken Word Artist, writer and Entrepreneur, James Nguyen Connect with James: IG: @jqnstudios Website: jqnstudios.com Recorded spoken word performances in this Chapter include: Alexis Henry: Sapiosexual IG : @caffeinatedliving Twitter: @wokeliving Website: caffeinatedliving.com Jasmine Mans: I Know You Didnt Mean to Kill Him Twitte...

Volume Three: Chapter Seventeen - Our Conversation with Sabrina Ali 05.09.2021

 In Volume Three: Chapter Seventeen, we welcomed Activist, Poet, Spoken Word Artist, Musician and Model, Sabrina Ali.  Sabrina is an Arab Spoken Word Poet and musician from Cincinnati currently pursuing her PhD at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Sabrina is focusing her dissertation on the use of ‘Spoken Word Poetry as an innovative form of narrative pedagogy to educate healthcare students,...

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