The Enterprise Digital Podcast

Listen to our guest Sally and you hear passion, commitment, focus, enthusiasm and a real understanding of what is needed to make service management successful. Sally was already a successful service management practitioner before she joined NHS digital – the IT and digital part of the UK NHS organisation. We discuss some eye-watering stats and the scale of change, particularly with Covid over the...

Actually, despite the title, this is our Christmas and New Year special episode. To confirm that Ian was dressed as Father Christmas for this (audio) podcast..! James is a well-known member of the global ITSM community, with a variety of industry associations, working as a partner with TCS, as well as being an experienced podcaster, with a history of broadcasting from various weird situations.. We...

This session is short and features just hosts Ian and Barclay, doing a review and ‘lessons learned’ session. We note that there is more talk around people and humanity, mental health as major themes – would this have happened even `5 years ago? Its certainly not just about tools. We discuss the ideas espoused in the podcasts so far – some thinking that ESM can be damaging, if not part of a major w...

IT people don’t understand marketing or value – says this week’s guest Ryan Ogilvy in this engaging and practical episode. That’s a strong but generally true statement and we debate the need to get away from just focussing on what we do to why we are doing it… Ryan has worked on a many projects over the years and comes with a great portfolio of experience, working as an external consultant/contrac...

This episode was recorded and aired as a session at this years it SMF UK annual conference – the 30th Anniversary event. For that we needed a really special guest and of course ‘industry treasure’ Ivor fitted the bill perfectly, as we were discussing past present and future. There are some great nuggets of wisdom here which span the early days to current and future thinking around service manageme...

Matter Beran is our guest on this brilliant episode – Matt is an experienced Product experience specialist who has worked with Service Now and now is with InvGate. He is also great company and this session is peppered with much positive energy and insight. WE discuss the difference between what is basicall ‘workflow and forms@ and the wider Organizational change aspects of SM, plus we also touch o...

Our guest is the head of Service Management for Deliotte, Nathan MacDonald – also a director at it SMF UK. We discuss how Service Management outside of IT doesn’t have the same baggage that has developed across IT and IT silos and tribes over the years. There is also a great opportunity to really develop people and how they work in developing (IT) SM – these concepts are also really get more relev...

Our guest for this fantastic discussion is the ex-sceptic, Rob England, of Teal Unicorn, author of Standard and Case, and much much more. Rob’s current focus is on good/better/open management, with a good sprinkling of agile practise in there, probably best summarised in this conversation as – you can be nice, you don’t have to be a b*st*rd..! We also cover the impact and inputs to Robs’ book - St...

Jon is a senior product manager at BMC with a lot of experience and active thought leadership in ITSM and DevOps. The conversation starts with a communal admission that we all had to look up ‘liminal’ when it started being used by Professor Dave Snowden (ref Cynefin ). However, the concept of working at the edges and boundaries across frameworks and new ways of working is a key element in the disc...

Wow, this discussion is a creative caravanserai of ideas and ‘ologies. Our guest is the indomitable Mark Smalley, thinker, writer and builder of bridges across the IT industry. We move ineluctably from potty-training for cows, to service science and Buddhist sagacity – yes that sentence is true…! Mark has been involved in bringing together a whole new set of worlds of thinking as the lead on the H...

This week’s guest is an experienced technology consultant and author – with 4 books to his name, Kevin J Smith, who also started his life working on the shuttle programme at NASA…  From working in technology, Kevin is now fossed on the human side of work more than just frameworks and this is reflected in his latest book on the humanity of IT. We discuss a number of aspects of the evolution of...

Our first four-person discussion on the podcast..! This is a brilliant practical discussion around The Vinci ESM approach , led by Darren, and supported by Pat Bolder from Hornbill, Vinci’s software partner. Darren has a great role as the ESM driver, outside of IT, although he’s from an IT and ITSM background. He also identifies the value of selling and communicating ESM concepts in simple busines...

Shane is a well-known contributor to the ITSM world, now as Director, Enterprise Architecture at Service Now and with a variety of previous roles, including an early stint as a prison guard. This discussion covers a range of topics with a clear focus on experience management and the need to focus on key business activities – ie the ‘moments that matter’… We also discuss the growing role of enterpr...

Charlie Araujo is a successful business leader and author – his book ‘the Quantum Age of IT’ raised a number of issues and questions about the whole technology industry – i.e. the traditional IT organisation is dead, we are entering a new ‘retail’ phase in our evolution. We discuss that and the outcomes that have happened since it was published nearly a decade ago. Our industry has changed and has...

Normally brightly coloured in attire, on this occasion just bright (as ever), this episode features an excellent discussion with the distinguished and sagacious Stuart Rance. We dip into several storied from Stuarts wide experience of working In IT and ITSM, with particular relevance the need to work with people, not just do things to them. The way to get people to do things is not by giving them...

We welcome Mauricio from Mexico City to the podcast – he is an eminent figure in the ITSM and Service Desk world, as a key ITIL and SDI contributor. We discuss a wide range of applications of robotics via ITSM and ESM, plus the (beautiful) concept of ‘co-bots’ – i.e. robots and that work with and in support of people – not the dystopian view of robot sci-fi destruction. Mauricio also highlights th...

We welcome ‘ITSM Ninja’ John to the podcast where the discussion starts with a really good/bad joke from Barclay – you decide. John has vast experience in the service management world, bringing great business and people perspectives to the discussion, particularly how ESM is possibly an indicator of organisational maturity. We discuss how ESM is currently only really seen as the toolset, and how t...

Our guest this week is the irrepressible industry analyst Stephen Mann, from ITSM.Tools. Stephen is a much respected figure in the industry who has created and defined several movements and initiatives around opening up access to information and data to practitioners. We discuss data from his recent work, which shows that 67% of organisations already do some sort of ESM. We also touch on whether ‘...

What have we learned after 20 episodes of the podcast about Enterprise Service Management? Ian and Barclay review the content from the first few sessions, discussing the input that we have had from a variety of experienced people from our industry. We realise that ESM really does mean business, people and the need for leadership as well as automation, new tools and ways of working. Will robots tak...

In this episode we are joined by the ‘mixologist’ Simone Moore – an Aussie ITSM consultant now living in France with a cornucopia of concepts to ponder on around the new world of work, communications and interaction. From Ian’s initial discussion on the options and changes with new ways of creating ‘meat’, we move through a myriad of ideas and concepts, including H2H – human to human, managing flo...

A fantastic journey of discussion around service management practice and philosophy, from Troy, Pink Elephant’s man ‘in the room where it happens…’ Troy is a Director of Pink Elephant and a highly regarded trainer, consultant and writer across a number of service management and IT disciplines. We discuss the challenges with the ‘enterprise’ approach, covering societal, tribal and organisational el...

Discussing the New Incident Management model, plus the sale of Axelos to PeopleCert. This SPECIAL episode discusses the big issues and questions of the day, with our special guest Ken Gonzalez..! Ken is a well-known and respected voice in the industry, as a practitioner and analyst. Ken works with Gartner, although he is expressing only his personal opinions here. We hear about Ken’s previous live...

Doug Tedder is a highly experienced consultant and trainer, who always speaks his mind with clarity, good sense and great insight. Doug’s view is that ESM should not repeat the mistakes that have been made with ITSM – i.e. to ‘inflict’ people to do things, with good intent but often without explanation. We need good governance to make this work and we shouldn’t just rely on the IT team to do this....

We are joined by Roman Jouravlev, the Axelos programme manager for ITIL 4 and the conscience and brilliant mind of ITSM. The discussion moves from various current flavours of service management, to identifying these as being part of the same thing. We shouldn’t need ITSM and ESM – all organisations deliver and consume services to and within each other. This moves imperceptibly on to a fascinating...

The Kentish-Texan Daniel Breston, who claims to be ‘retiring’ joins and provides some sage insights. We dip into Dan’s 50 years of IT stories and discuss Lean, which Dan has been closely involved with. A key point is the need for all to participate in using and applying things like ‘Lean – including the CIO and board. On drinks Dan dons his tuxedo to sip Casino Royale…