Thomas B. Fordham Institute
The Education Gadfly Show
For more than 15 years, the Fordham Institute has been hosting a weekly podcast, The Education Gadfly Show. Each week, you’ll get lively, entertaining discussions of recent education news, usually featuring Fordham’s Mike Petrilli and David Griffith. Then the wise Amber Northern will recap a recent research study. For questions or comments on the podcast, contact its producer, Stephanie Distler, at sdistler@fordhaminstitute.org.
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
#949: Building positive school cultures, with Philip K. Howard 11.12.2024 30:14
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Philip K. Howard, chair of Common Good and a bestselling author, joins Mike and David to discuss what it takes to create positive school environments, as outlined in his recent Hoover Institution essay, “The human authority needed for good schools.” Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares an Urban Institute report analyzing states’ demographically a...
#948: School choice setbacks: Interpreting the referenda losses with Colleen Hroncich 04.12.2024 33:18
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Colleen Hroncich, a policy analyst with the Cato Institute’s Center for Educational Freedom, joins Mike and David to discuss why pro–school choice ballot measures failed in Kentucky, Nebraska, and Colorado—and what it means for the future. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam shares a study examining 100 years of data on elite private and public colleges...
#947: MCAS no more: High school in the post-exit-exam era, with Jim Peyser 20.11.2024 38:40
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Jim Peyser, former Massachusetts Secretary of Education, joins Mike and David to discuss voters’ recent decision to eliminate the MCAS graduation requirement and what it means for the future of high school. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares reports exploring the changing landscape of homeschooling in America. Recommended content: James A. Peys...
#946: Is there hope for education reform after the election? with Dale Chu 13.11.2024 27:12
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Dale Chu, a senior visiting fellow at the Fordham Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss how the election results could impact education and whether there’s reason for optimism. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study examining how geographic access to public colleges affects enrollment decisions across different races and socioeconomic...
#945: What happened when Tennessee colleges dropped remedial courses, with Jill Barshay 06.11.2024 33:15
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Jill Barshay, author of The Hechinger Report ’s “Proof Points” column, joins Mike and David to discuss her recent article on the surprising effects of colleges eliminating remedial courses. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study examining the impact of Washington’s academic acceleration policies on high school students. Recommended content:...
#944: More equitable advanced education programs, with Brandon Wright 30.10.2024 34:44
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Brandon Wright, Fordham’s Editorial Director and author of the latest Think Again brief, “Are Education Programs for High Achievers Inherently Inequitable?” joins Mike and David to explain why the answer to that question is “no” and why such programs are important. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study examining how individual teachers’ ef...
#943: How 20,000 parents view educational opportunity in America, with Marc Porter Magee 23.10.2024 33:23
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Marc Porter Magee, CEO and Founder of 50CAN, joins Mike and David to discuss “The State of Educational Opportunity in America," 50CAN’s new report based on a survey of over 20,000 parents from all 50 states and D.C. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam shares a study examining how teacher strikes affect compensation, working conditions, and student...
#942: The case for supply-side policies in career and technical education, with David Deming 16.10.2024 33:57
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, David Deming, a professor of Political Economy at the Harvard Kennedy School, joins Mike and David to discuss his article in The Atlantic arguing that it’s not enough for governments and the private sector to eliminate college-degree requirement for good-paying jobs. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study investigating the “fade-out effect”...
#941: Inside Denver’s education transformation, with Parker Baxter 09.10.2024 35:44
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Parker Baxter, Director of the Center for Education Policy Analysis at the University of Colorado, joins Mike and David to discuss his new report on the impact of Denver’s education reforms. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a RAND survey on teachers’ experiences with school violence and lockdown drills. Recommended content: Parker Baxter, A...
#940: Navigating accountability for education savings accounts, with Devon Nir 02.10.2024 31:14
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Devon Nir, a research assistant at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss the complexities of ensuring accountability for education savings accounts. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a study exploring the financial returns of various non-degree credentials and degree programs. Recommended content: “The ‘à la cart...
#939: What to do about underenrolled and underachieving schools? with Sofoklis Goulas 25.09.2024 35:17
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Sofoklis Goulas, a fellow at the Brookings Institution and the Hamilton Project, joins Mike and David to discuss the Fordham report he just authored, Underachieving and Underenrolled: Chronically Low-Performing Schools in the Post-Pandemic Era . Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study on the effects of Zearn Math on third through fifth grade...
#938: The disappointing results of high-dosage tutoring, with Michael Goldstein 18.09.2024 31:16
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Michael Goldstein, co-founder of the Math Learning Lab in Boston, joins Mike and David to discuss the track record of high-dosage tutoring in mitigating pandemic learning loss. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber shares a study on the long-term effects of the METCO program, which aims to increase diversity and reduce racial isolation by busing students...
#937: Is universal free lunch a good idea? with Paul Bruno 11.09.2024 33:29
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Paul Bruno, an assistant professor of education at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, joins Mike and David to discuss the pros and cons of universal free lunch. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber explores how mandating Advanced Placement course offerings and waiving AP exam fees impact student participation. Recommended content: “Should Al...
#936: How socioeconomic factors explain achievement gaps, with Eric Hengyu Hu and Paul L. Morgan 04.09.2024 24:47
#936: How socioeconomic factors explain achievement gaps, with Eric Hengyu Hu and Paul L. Morgan On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, SUNY Albany’s Eric Hengyu Hu and Paul L. Morgan, authors of Fordham’s recently released report Explaining Achievement Gaps: The Role of Socioeconomic Factors , joins Mike and David to discuss their findings. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber reports on a...
#935: How the charter sector can thrive under Trump or Harris, with Starlee Coleman 28.08.2024 26:50
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Starlee Coleman, newly named President and CEO of the National Alliance for Public Charter Schools, joins Mike and David to discuss how the charter sector can find success with a Trump or Harris presidency. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber reports on a study of how nearby charter schools impact Catholic school enrollment. Recommended content: “How...
#934: Reducing chronic absenteeism: Building trust versus getting tough, with Kelly James 21.08.2024 27:25
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Kelly James, a partner at Education First Consulting and Fordham’s 2024 Wonkathon winner, joins Mike and David to discuss how policymakers and practitioners can reduce chronic absenteeism in schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam reports on a study about the fiscal effects of states paying districts for the costs of students they no longer serve....
#933 The nuts and bolts of banning cellphones in schools, with Othiniel Mahone 14.08.2024 26:31
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Othiniel Mahone, the principal at GEO Academies 21st Century School in Gary, Indiana, joins Mike and David to discuss effective strategies for implementing and enforcing an “away for the day” school cellphone policy. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam reports on a study about the impact of middle school principals on various long-term outcomes for stud...
#932: Yes, AP exams are getting easier, with Checker Finn 07.08.2024 21:38
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Fordham’s Checker Finn joins Mike and David to discuss the changes in how the College Board is scoring Advanced Placement exams. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber reports on a meta-analysis examining the effectiveness of robot-assisted foreign language learning. Recommended content: “Are AP exams getting easier?” — Chester E. Finn, Jr. “The Great...
#931: No, school closures aren’t racist, with Vlad Kogan 31.07.2024 21:56
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Vlad Kogan, a professor at Ohio State University, joins Mike and David to discuss what role race, achievement, and enrollment play in a district’s decision to close a school. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new report that investigates the staffing difficulties and potential academic effects of class size reduction policies in New York C...
#930: What Vance and Harris mean for federal education policy, with Dale Chu 24.07.2024 25:30
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Dale Chu, a senior visiting fellow at the Fordham Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss how Biden passing the torch and Trump picking J.D. Vance could affect U.S. school policy. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study that compares the academic impacts of urban versus suburban charter schools. Recommended content: “Vance vs. Pen...
#929: Equity and school closures, with Francis Pearman 17.07.2024 30:50
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Francis Pearman, an assistant professor of education at Stanford University, joins Mike and David to debate the impact that budgets, enrollment, and race play in closing schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating the efficacy of learning-loss-recovery interventions across eight districts. Recommended content: &quo...
#928: Why the pandemic toddlers are struggling in school, with Kristen Huff 10.07.2024 27:31
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Kristen Huff, the vice president of assessment and research at Curriculum Associates, joins Mike and David to discuss the academic performance our youngest students in the wake of the pandemic. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study investigating the demographic effects of test-optional policies at selective universities. Recommended...
#927: How to shrink schools and school districts as enrollment declines, with Marguerite Roza 03.07.2024 30:12
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Marguerite Roza, the director of the Edunomics Lab and a research professor at Georgetown University, joins Mike and David to discuss how schools and school systems can downsize in response to declining enrollment. Then, on the Research Minute, Adam examines a new study investigating the academic impacts of ESSER funding, the largest one-time federal i...
#926: What “Young Sheldon” teaches about parenting, with Alina Adams 26.06.2024 28:58
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Alina Adams, a New York Times best-selling author, joins Mike and David to discuss the parenting lessons she learned from watching “Young Sheldon.” Then, on the Research Minute, Adam examines a new study investigating the rigor (or lack thereof) of online credit recovery courses. Recommended content: “I watched the parenting on ‘Young Sheldon’… and d...
#925: We need more curriculum oversight, with Robert Pondiscio 19.06.2024 24:48
On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Robert Pondiscio, a senior fellow at Fordham and the American Enterprise Institute, joins Mike and David to discuss the lack of curriculum oversight in American schools. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines a new study of whether aspiring teachers’ professional references predict their later performance. Recommended content: “How public schoo...
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