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That Was Then 09.06.2021 48:31
Chinese espionage poses a mortal threat to the US, former counterintelligence boss Bill Evanina tells Jeanne Meserve. And author Kai Bird talks with Jeff Stein about a clandestine plot with Iran by Reagan campaign manager and future CIA Director Bill Casey to deny Jimmy Carter re-election. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out i...
The New Map: A Conversation with Daniel Yergin 08.06.2021 32:31
Pultizer Prize-winner Daniel Yergin is widely regarded as the world's foremost analyst and commentator on energy issues. His books have chronicled every aspect of how modern energy markets have evolved and their impact on geopolitics and daily life. His latest book, "The New Map: Energy, Climate and the Clash of Nations," describes how emerging energy technologies and climate related issues are im...
Let's Make Diplomacy Boring Again 07.06.2021 47:03
Joe Biden is off to Europe. He will meet with Allies and with Vladimir Putin. Under Trump, that was a formula for headlines and disaster. Under all presidents such trips produce fraught analyses seeking to identify presidential doctrines and historic deliverables. But most of diplomacy is blocking and tackling. And much of it best done out of sight of the public. We discuss the upcoming trip with...
Cyber Counterpunch 04.06.2021 14:34
On this special edition of SpyTalk, co-host Jeanne Meserve speaks with William Evanina, former Director of the United States National Counterintelligence and Security Center about the recent spate of ransomware attacks. Evanina says President Biden should threaten to pull out of the upcoming summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin, and that the US should demonstrate it is willing and able to...
This is a Song About Disappointment 03.06.2021 49:13
The Democrats keep bending over backwards to "do what's right" or "preserve bipartisanship." Republicans meanwhile have made it clear they have no interest in doing what's right or bipartisanship. Is the Democratic strategy a way to get to enough votes to reform the filibuster and thereby thwart GOP efforts to gut democracy? Or is it the old story of Lucy, Charlie Brown and the football. The weeks...
The Gathering Storms 02.06.2021 52:35
Former top FBI domestic extremist specialist Tom O’Connor tells co-host Jeanne Meserve in a startling interview that he’s worried about another Timothy McVeigh plotting something big. And Jeff Stein talks with veteran intelligence reporter Bill Arkin about a vast Pentagon secret army combatting our enemies that no one’s heard about. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See...
Where's Your Sense of Urgency? It Won't Be 2024 When Our Democracy is Undone, it'll be 2021. 27.05.2021 47:15
Many are rightly focused on the importance of 2024's presidential elections and the midterms in 2022. But if we do not stop GOP efforts at voter suppression this year...which means ending the filibuster this year...and we don't create accountability for Trump Administration abuses, we will set in motion inevitable defeats not just for Democrats but for American democracy in the years ahead. We dis...
Spies in the Soup 26.05.2021 58:21
Jean Meserve talks with former Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Juliette Kayyem about the mess in DHS’ intelligence shop, and Jeff Stein interviews Barry Meier about his new book, “Spooked: The Trump Dossier, Black Cube, and the Rise of Private Spies.” Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your...
Special Episode: The CFR's Richard Haass on the State of the World 25.05.2021 35:47
Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, is one of the world's leading thinkers on international affairs. His most recent book, "The World: A Brief Introduction" is a one volume crash course into how we got to where we are and where we go from here. It is now out in paperback and to mark that event, we sat down with Richad to discuss the book, America's changing role in the wo...
America's Message to the Middle East: We're Broken and Our Focus Needs to be on Taking Care of Business at Home 24.05.2021 50:29
We've come to the end of another violent cycle between Israelis and Palestinians. Generally, the Biden Administration has gotten good grades for a policy that balanced active, behind the scenes efforts to bring the violence to a quick close with a desire not to get side-tracked from their main agenda items here at home. Where do we go from here? What did the crisis tell us is now different between...
How Do You Say "We Are Being Attacked by Radicals Who Want to Destroy Democracy" in a Way that Will Make People Care? 20.05.2021 51:56
This week, the vast majority of Republicans on Capitol Hill sought to block a bipartisan commission that would investigate the attack that took place on January 6th and the factors leading up to it. Some even portrayed the attackers as the victims or as just a bunch of tourists visiting a national monument. It would have been shocking if it were not so commonplace. So the question becomes, do enou...
When of the Two Most Likely Solutions One is Impossible and the other is Even Less Likely, What Then? 20.05.2021 43:38
The past two weeks have revealed that the Israel-Palestine conflict remains far from a solution. Indeed, of the two most likely solutions discussed--a two-state "solution" or a one-state "solution"--both seem impossible. But the problem is a real one with profound human consequences in Israel and Palestine and great resonance in the US (often for the wrong reasons). We discuss the situation and ou...
Panetta’s Regret 19.05.2021 57:53
Former CIA Director and Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta was praised in a multitude of articles and broadcasts marking the 10th anniversary of the elimination of Osama Bin Laden earlier this month. But in an hour long interview with Jeff Stein, he described a major failing of US intelligence during his watch. Listen to it here. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See aca...
Has the CIA Lost Its Grip on the Middle East? 19.05.2021 34:33
CIA clandestine services veteran and longtime Middle East hand Marc Polymeropoulos tells Jeff Stein that the CIA no longer prizes regional expertise, instead opting for spy corps “generalists” who can be shifted from region to region. In this Special Edition of the SpyTalk podcast, Polymeropoulos laments the passing of Charlie Seidel, who he calls the CIA’s “last great Arabist.” Support this show...
The Cracking Sounds You Hear in the Old US-Israel Relationship 17.05.2021 48:24
The Biden Administration is working hard to maintain a fairly traditional front for US-Israel relations during the current crisis. Which is to say they are essentially following the playbook the Obama Administration would have followed (Trump's bromance with Bibi was an outlier). But times are changing, the views of Democrats are changing, the generational outlook is changing, and don't forget Bib...
What's Cooking in the Laboratories of Democracy 13.05.2021 38:50
It was Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis who popularized the phrase "states are laboratories of democracy." That has never been clearer than at this moment when some of the most important innovation in governing is coming from states...and some folks, notably on the right, are working on experiments that may end up crippling democracy or even killing it. To get a sense of what is going on at th...
Crisis and Confusion 13.05.2021 1:02:11
In the fourth edition of the SpyTalk podcast, former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen talks with co-host Jeanne Meserve about combatting “psychological warfare” disinformation attacks from Russia, China, Iran and even Venezuela, and former top CIA analyst Mathew Burrows tells her that US intelligence is so busy coping with immediate threats they “can’t see the forest for the trees.” Le...
The Unimaginable Covid Crisis in India 11.05.2021 46:43
On this special episode of Deep State Radio, we discuss the Covid-19 crisis in India with Washington Post Global Opinion Columnist, Rana Ayyub, who is covering the crisis from the front lines from her home in Mumbai and describes unimaginable suffering, both personally and across her country. Rana is joined by Edward Luce of the Financial Times and practicing physician and former Obama health advi...
The One in Which Rosa Suggests That He or She With the Most Instagram Followers Should Rule 10.05.2021 48:22
The US could be back in the Iran nuclear accord by the end of the month. There are plenty of hurdles to that, of course, but it is not impossible. And if not by then, then perhaps it will happen by Fall. We discuss why that is likely to be a good thing with the Quincy Institute's Joe Cirincione, the American Enterprise Institute's Kori Schake, and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law School. W...
The Woman Who Invented Ronald Reagan 07.05.2021 37:11
Ronald Reagan would not have been president nor would he have enjoyed the successes he had as a politician without the active role played by his wife, Nancy. Often underestimated, sometimes the subject of gossipy slights, this woman was really one of the principle architects of a watershed presidency, among the very top advisors in an era in which some of the others including Washington titans lik...
How Do We Get from Here to Accountability? 06.05.2021 48:58
In an important ruling this week, Judge Amy Berman Jackson wrote a scathing assessment of the Barr Department of Justice's efforts to rationalize their handling of the serial obstruction of justice within the Trump Administration. This may have been another significant step toward getting some accountability for the last administration's serial abuses. The decision came in a case brought by Citize...
Shots in the Dark 06.05.2021 57:13
Jeanne Meserve looks into the mysterious directed-energy attacks on officials in Washington with Mark Zaid, lawyer for CIA and State Department victims. Then Ronen Bergman, author of a groundbreaking book on Israeli assassination operations, talks with Jeff Stein about the effect of Mossad’s hits on Iran’s nuclear scientists and uranium facilities. Last but hardly least, Jeanne talks at length wit...
Is this Just Indian Summer for Democracy in America? 03.05.2021 46:26
Joe Biden is doing a remarkable job. Public support for Biden's bold economic initiatives is exceptionally high. But there are warning signs about what may be around the next bend in American politics. The GOP is punishing those in its ranks who dared to speak the truth. The most extreme actors on the right seem to have the best prospects. Republicans are posed to do well in the 2022 mid-terms. An...
A Stake Through the Heart of Reaganomics 30.04.2021 38:40
We are in the middle of an economic sea-change in the United States. The prevailing views of the past 40 years--call them Reaganomics or neo-liberalism or the Washington Consensus--are being pushed aside. The inequality they left in their wake are being addressed by new policies that focus on investing in the middle class and the most vulnerable. The leader of this revolution is not some young fir...
Biden Gives the Most Kennedy-esque Rooseveltian Speech in History 29.04.2021 48:15
Joe Biden spoke to a joint session of Congress and outlined an economic plan that exceeds in scope anything we have seen nearly a century. It was specific, doable, and would be paid for simply by restoring taxes to levels they were at past periods of American prosperity and growth. He framed it as not just urgent from a domestic perspective but critical to "winning the 21st Century", to our compet...
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