The Dispatch
The Dispatch Podcast
Host Steve Hayes is joined by Jonah Goldberg, Megan McArdle and guests for a thoughtful discussion on politics, policy and culture.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Why Bother to Vote | Interview: George Will 03.06.2024 38:49
Washington Post columnist George Will joins Jamie to discuss the Trump verdict, the state of American politics, Israel’s predicament, the influence of college campuses, foreign policy, and the future of the Republican Party. Show Notes: —Will's Washington Post column on not voting in November —Will's Washington Post column on nuclear annihilation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.f...
Trump's Guilty. Now What? | Roundtable 31.05.2024 1:00:05
A jury found Donald Trump guilty on all 34 counts in his New York criminal trial. Sarah is joined by Jonah, Mike, and Steve to break down the conviction and discuss where we all go from here. The Agenda: —Was this a Stalin show trial? —When law enforcement becomes personal —Trump’s defense failure —Shame on everybody —Did this change anyone's vote? —Trump raises $34.8 million —Will Trump receive p...
What Are Economists Actually Good For? | Interview: Doug Holtz-Eakin 27.05.2024 33:38
Doug Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum, joins Jamie to discuss the role of an economist and recession predictions. The Agenda: —Explaining why a recession hasn’t come this year —The role of the Federal Reserve in managing inflation —Rent prices and housing stock —Education reform and a pro-growth tax code —The breaking point with interest rates —Will the U.S. dollar stop being th...
Where Do Haley Voters Go? | Roundtable 24.05.2024 1:14:46
Jonah is joined by Steve and Mike to discuss Nikki Haley saying she will vote for Donald Trump, and they also get into the “deadly force” lie being spread by Trump supporters in Congress and right-wing media. The Agenda: —Haley endorses Trump —Trump-Haley ticket —How the ‘Deadly Force’ Lie Swept Through the MAGA Media Ecosystem —The corrupting influence of Trump —Potluck foreign policy —The ICC ar...
How George Floyd Changed American Education | Interview: George Packer 20.05.2024 1:15:17
George Packer joins Jamie to discuss how a new round of progressive culture in universities stems from the George Floyd and Black Lives Matter protests. The Agenda: —The competitive atmosphere of getting into elite pre-schools —Rejection of nuance and debate —How to teach history and civics —New progressivism and its roots —Progressive ideologies leading to cancel culture —Culture wars and anti-Zi...
Trump or Baby Hitler? | Roundtable 17.05.2024 1:05:08
Donald Trump and Joe Biden have agreed to a debate and no one knows who benefits. Steve and Jonah join Sarah to make some predictions about the upcoming presidential debate and discuss how you should think about your vote. The Agenda: —The debate —Why did Biden agree to this? —White House operatives’ blind spots —RFK Jr. not invited to the debate —“Never Trump” vs. “Never Again” —Would Jonah vote...
How the Far Left Thinks About Israel | Interview: Bill Ayers 13.05.2024 1:05:19
Jamie is joined by Bill Ayers—former professor and co-founder of The Weather Underground, a far-left militant organization—to provide a far-left perspective on the merits of the anti-Israel encampments and Israel’s response to October 7. The Agenda: —The safety of Jews on college campuses —Do the encampment protesters care about the hostages? —Condemning Hamas —How Israel should’ve responded to Oc...
Embracing Failure | Roundtable 10.05.2024 1:10:41
Megan McArdle of the Washington Post joins Jonah and Sarah to discuss Trump’s *explicit* trial, vice presidential contenders, and the downfall of the Tea Party. The Agenda: —Vice presidential picks —Let’s keep the Burgumentum going!!! —Handgate and Marco Rubio —FreedomWorks closes up shop —Checking in on third parties —There are monsters inside of RFK Jr. —Man vs. Bear debate Show Notes: —WaPo's e...
The Second Coming of Trump | Interview: Robert Costa 06.05.2024 48:00
Robert Costa, chief election and campaign correspondent for CBS News, joins Jamie to discuss what a second Trump administration would look like. The Agenda: —GOP Rep. Dan Crenshaw’s previous Dispatch Podcast appearance and Costa’s response —How Trump pressured different Republican leaders leading up to January 6 —Steve Bannon’s motivation and role —Trump’s ongoing legal cases and how they affect h...
The Cult of The College Protest | Roundtable 03.05.2024 1:08:09
Can you compare the pro-Palestinian protests on college campuses to January 6? What about 1968? Or 2011? Sarah is joined by Jonah and Steve to debate these questions and discuss Trump’s Time magazine interview. The Agenda: —Nostalgia for the Civil Rights protests —Do we have political parties anymore? —Protests become violent —Whose fault is this? —No Jewish hummus —The UNC frat bros’ Iwo Jima mom...
Is Qatar an Arsonist or a Firefighter? | Interview: Jonathan Schanzer 29.04.2024 42:07
Qatar hosts a major U.S. air base, but its patronage of radical Islamist terror groups has some Americans questioning the alliance. Jonathan Schanzer, senior vice president for research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, joins Jamie to explain. The Agenda: —Introduction to Qatar —Various actors and terrorist organizations in Qatar —Qatar’s financial influence in Washington —Al Jazeera's...
All the Lonely People | Interview: Derek Thompson 28.04.2024 30:50
Derek Thompson of The Atlantic joins Victoria to answer the question: Why did Americans stop hanging out? The two discuss the steep decline in face-to-face socializing, the rise of loneliness, and the fraternizing role of protests. The Agenda: —The decline of social institutions in America —Smartphones’ effect on teenagers’ lives —Women turning to pets —Challenges of raising kids in the digital ag...
Motion to Placate | Roundtable 26.04.2024 1:20:01
Congress did their job—for now. Sarah is joined by Steve and Jonah on today’s episode of The Dispatch Podcast to discuss Speaker Mike Johnson’s successful passage of Ukraine and Israel aid and explain the intellectual history of the illiberal right. The Agenda: —Ukraine aid passed —Heritage Foundation vs. Erick Erickson —What is conservatism? —Columbia protests —Will history prove them right? —Gen...
Columbia Professor: Terrorism Is The Point | Interview: Shai Davidai 24.04.2024 1:33:50
Adaam is joined by Shai Davidai, an Israeli-born assistant professor at Columbia University, to discuss a viral moment in which he was denied entry to Columbia’s campus and how the university’s administration is failing to protect Jewish students. The Agenda: —Shai Davidai’s background, from Israel to Columbia —The antisemitism he was warned about —Dialogue with protesters —The administrative invo...
The Dispatch and The Bulwark Walk Into a Bar... | Interview: Tim Miller 22.04.2024 1:15:21
Jamie is joined by Tim Miller, host of The Bulwark Podcast, for a debate on the impact of social justice principles in the American education system. Jamie invites The Bulwark Podcast host Tim Miller to debate the impact of social justice principles in the American education system. The Agenda: —Younger people's support of Palestine —Woke curriculums in elementary and middle schools —Debate on sex...
Bodega Campaign Tactics | Roundtable 19.04.2024 1:09:30
As Congress devolves into high school drama, Sarah, Jonah, and Mike discuss the fight over aid to Ukraine and Israel and the resulting threats to oust Speaker Mike Johnson. The Agenda: —Internal drama and blocks to getting foreign aid passed —Polling shows Trump losing his lead in swing states —Trump’s bodega campaign tactics —Latinos’ affinity for Trump: real or media illusion? —The need for mess...
How to Read Politics and Politicians | Interview: Carlos Lozada 15.04.2024 59:41
Jamie is joined by New York Times opinion columnist and Pulitzer Prize winner Carlos Lozada to discuss his new book, The Washington Book: How to Read Politics and Politicians. The two discuss how to read a politician’s memoir and the failures of The 1619 Project. The Agenda: —Does everyone use a ghostwriter? —Insights from the acknowledgments section —Inside Obama’s presidency —Has The 1619 Projec...
No True Conviction on Abortion | Roundtable 12.04.2024 1:11:27
Sarah, Steve, and Jonah react to Donald Trump’s milquetoast yet controversial statement on abortion and how it's confusing Republican abortion policy at large. The Agenda: —What do people really think about abortion? —Conviction vs. convenience on the abortion issue —Israel’s pullout from southern Gaza —Is Israel making the same mistakes as America? —Craziness on college campuses —Trump’s “Sister...
Debating the Israel-Hamas War | Interview: Mehdi Hasan 08.04.2024 46:13
Mehdi Hasan, former MSNBC host and co-founder of the media outlet Zeteo, joins Jamie for a heated debate about Israel’s response to Hamas’ October 7 attack and the accusations that the IDF is committing war crimes. The Agenda: —Laying out the current situation in Gaza —The issue of proportionality in the use of force —Debating casualty numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry —The feasibility of a tw...
Biden’s Losing the Vibe War | Roundtable 05.04.2024 1:15:28
Jonah the usurper invites Kevin, Mike, and Washington Post columnist Megan McArdle on today’s episode of The Dispatch Podcast for some unfettered, wide-ranging punditry stretching from Biden’s wobbling support of Israel to the political implications of Florida’s abortion law. The Agenda: —World Central Kitchen deaths in Gaza —Biden’s balancing act between addressing concerns from the pro-Palestini...
Gaza Changed Urban Warfare | Interview: John Spencer 01.04.2024 48:13
Jamie is joined by John Spencer, an author, former colonel in the California State Guard, and urban warfare expert with 25 years of experience in the Army, to examine Israel’s tactics in Gaza and weigh in on allegations the IDF is committing genocide and/or war crimes. The Agenda: —Joe Rogan accuses Israel of genocide —John’s experience in Gaza —War is not quantitative —How to determine proportion...
About That NBC News Drama ... | Roundtable 29.03.2024 1:08:52
The hiring and firing of Ronna McDaniel at NBC News brought up mixed feelings for the staffers at The Dispatch. Sarah, Jonah, Steve, and David (French!) open up about their own complicated relationships with mainstream media, the problems with hiring partisans into newsrooms, and whether McDaniel is a good avatar for any of these questions. The Agenda: —Roles of ideological purity in media —The cr...
The Blindspots of Partisan Media | Interview: Brian Stelter 25.03.2024 1:01:01
Brian Stelter, longtime media critic and author of Network of Lies, joins Jamie on today’s episode of The Dispatch Podcast to discuss the state of newsrooms nationwide in an age of ideological division, debate the blindspots of partisan media, and offer thoughts on the future of journalism. The Agenda: —Overcorrecting coverage of Trump —Trump’s influence on ratings —COVID-19 coverage and school cl...
The Double-Hater Voter | Roundtable 22.03.2024 1:03:43
Sarah, Jonah, Steve, and Mike dive into the latest punditry—Ohio’s primary, Trump’s trials, and the Middle East—before veering off into an Abraham Lincoln and 1619 Project cul-de-sac. The Agenda: —Bernie Moreno wipes the floor —Jonah pushes back on reveries of self-congratulation —Who are the double-haters in the 2024 election? —An update on Trump trials —The worst “win” you can have as a prosecut...
Should the U.S. Defend Taiwan? | Interview: Dan Negrea and Matthew Kroenig 18.03.2024 44:01
Former Trump administration official Dan Negrea and national security strategist Matt Kroenig join Jamie to discuss their book We Win, They Lose. Jamie challenges their thesis that a Trump-Regan foreign policy fusion is possible. The Agenda: -The current international landscape -China’s aggressive military operations and Taiwan -Can Americans stomach backing Taiwan in war? -Trump’s switch on a Tik...
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