Design Observer
The Design Of Business | The Business of Design
The Design of Business | The Business of Design explores how design shapes, and is shaped by, the world around us. Hosted by Ellen McGirt, the podcast features conversations with visionary leaders from a wide range of industries, from architecture and technology to journalism and retail. Together, they examine creative practices, challenge conventional thinking, and explore how design drives business, innovation, and social change. In Season 12 of DB|BD, host Ellen McGirt explores Designing for the Unknown —how visionary designers, architects, and thinkers navigate uncertainty, from climate ad...
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Nov 11, 2025
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Episodes
S10E11.5: Minisode 28.02.2023 18:56
Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza discuss past episodes featuring Kunal Kapoor and Dori Tunstall. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E11: Dr. Dori Tunstall 14.02.2023 49:23
Dr. Elizabeth “Dori” Tunstall is the Dean of the Faculty of Design at Ontario College of Art and Design. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E10: Kunal Kapoor 24.01.2023 31:02
Kunal Kapoor is chief executive officer of Morningstar. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E9.5: Minisode 10.01.2023 19:28
Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza discuss past episodes featuring Norman Teague and Kim Erwin. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E9: Kim Erwin 27.12.2022 36:39
Kim Erwin is the Director of the Equitable Healthcare Lab and Associate Professor of Practice at IIT Institute of Design. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E8: Norman Teague 13.12.2022 32:27
Norman Teague is a designer and community builder who specializes in custom furniture design. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E7.5: Minisode 29.11.2022 17:33
In this month’s minisode Kaleena and Omari take a listen to past episodes featuring Richard Ting and Marcia Lausen. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E7: Marcia Lausen 15.11.2022 26:13
Marcia Lausen is Director of the UIC School of Design and founder of the Chicago office of Studio/lab. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E6: Richard Ting 01.11.2022 32:37
Richard Ting is the Vice President of Design for Revenue at Twitter. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E5.5: Minisode 18.10.2022 18:37
Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza discuss past episodes featuring Perrin Drumm, and Annie Atkins. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E5: Annie Atkins 04.10.2022 36:00
Annie Atkins is a graphic props designer for film and television. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E4: Perrin Drumm 20.09.2022 28:36
Perrin Drumm is a writer, editor, and head of publishing at A24. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
FEED DROP: The Futures Archive 16.08.2022 42:09
The Design of Business | The Business of Design is taking a mid season hiatus, but new episodes will be dropping in September. In the meantime, we wanted to share a different show from Design Observer, The Futures Archive. The season finale of its second season will drop this coming Thursday, August 18th. The Futures Archive is a podcast that looks at the history of human-centered design with a cr...
S10E3.5: Minisode 02.08.2022 14:44
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari unpack the idea of branding, being branded, and choosing your own brand. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E3: Vernon Lockhart 26.07.2022 30:39
Vernon Lockhart is the Executive Director of Project Osmosis, a Chicago based design education and mentoring initiative. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E2.5: Minisode 19.07.2022 14:27
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari discuss design emancipation, risk and reward, and a flightless parrot. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E2: Jane Saks 12.07.2022 36:53
Jane Saks is the President and Artisitic Director of Project&, and the co-Founder and co-Artisitic Director of M2M: Monuments to Movements. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E1.5: Minisode 28.06.2022 15:32
On this week’s minisode, Kaleena and Omari discuss the value of bridging a diversity of broad experience to a design team. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E1: Ernesto Quinteros 21.06.2022 33:51
Redefining the boundaries between people, products, and patients: Ernesto Quinteros, the Chief Design Officer at Johnson & Johnson. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E0: Introducing Our New Minisodes Co-Hosts 14.06.2022 19:09
Introducing The Design of Business | The Business of Design minisode co hosts, Kaleena Sales and Omari Souza. To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
S10E0: Introducing Our New Co-Hosts 07.06.2022 27:29
Season ten of the The Design of Business | The Business of Design returns with new hosts Dana Arnett and Kevin Bethune! To hear more from our archive, find The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Apple podcasts , or your favorite podcast app !
The Futures Archive: The Disco Ball 29.03.2022 34:22
While we are busy making season ten of The Design of Business | The Business of Design, here's the first episode from the new season of The Futures Archive. So what are the relationships between design and pleasure? And how can we design the most pleasurable experiences? Lee Moreau and Rachel Lehrer discuss the disco ball and the importance of embodied design with additional insights from Änn...
Introducing The Futures Archive 02.11.2021 34:04
Check out the first episode of Connect 4: Design Bridges, a new show about mentorship from Design Observer and Connect 4: Networking for Equality in Design. On this episode, creative director Jonathan Jackson talks with Avalon Garrick, a design student at Mercy College. If you like what you hear, subscribe to the Connect 4: Design Bridges feed wherever you get your podcasts or check them out at h...
S9E12: Jessica Helfand + Ellen McGirt 19.10.2021 29:51
Jessica and Ellen listen back to highlights from Season 9, and hand off hosting duties to Dana Arnett and Kevin Bethune, who will be taking over in Season 10.
S9E11: Avery Willis Hoffman 05.10.2021 38:17
Avery Willis Hoffman is a writer, director, producer and curator. Hoffman recently joined Brown University as the inaugural artistic director of the Brown Arts Institute.
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