Clean Wisconsin: Your environmental voice since 1970

The Defender

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Welcome to the Defender, Wisconsin's environmental podcast, where we talk about the most pressing environmental issues facing Wisconsin and how you can plug in to defend our air, water, land and climate. The Defender is hosted by former radio and TV journalist Amy Barrilleaux. She'll help cut through the jargon and all the misinformation that's out there and have real conversations about how to build a healthy, sustainable future. Every week, Amy talks with scientists, advocates, farmers, experts, and just everyday people who are working right here in Wisconsin to make a difference to protect...

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Clean Wisconsin: Your environmental voice since 1970

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www.cleanwisconsin.org

Latest episode

Jun 29, 2026

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Episodes

Trump's Threat to Safe Water (and how WI can fight back) 24.02.2025

We are about to say goodbye to some basic water protections as the Trump Administration looks to undo decades of science-based work focused on keeping toxic chemicals out of our water supplies. Right now on the Defender, Amy talks with Clean Wisconsin attorney Evan Feinauer about how bedrock protections like the Clean Water Act could be at risk as the new administration targets regulations, resear...

Leaded Skies: A small town's fight against leaded aviation fuel 17.02.2025

Lead is a neurotoxin, and when you breathe it in, it gets into your bloodstream and can cause all kinds of health problems, including brain damage. It's no wonder leaded gasoline was banned in the US nearly 30 years ago. But that ban didn't cover small aircraft fuel. Turns out, those small airplanes buzzing around recreational airports across the state and country still use leaded gas. The planes...

Opening the door to joy: One woman's journey to get fossil fuels out of her home 10.02.2025

If you care about the environment, protecting this planet, our home, our livable climate, chances are you're a little stressed out right now. But what if I told you that environmental action can open the door… to joy. Heat from a Wisconsin woman who started on a journey a few years ago to get fossil fuels out of her home. No furnace, no gas stove, no gas hot water heater.  She takes us on a tour o...

Introducing the Defender 06.02.2025

True to its name, this podcast, State of Change is about to undergo some big changes. The first – a new name. Going forward, this will be the Defender podcast. If that name sounds familiar, it's because it's the same name as Clean Wisconsin's quarterly newspaper, the longest-running environmental advocacy publication in Wisconsin, the Defender . And right now, that advocacy, that word "Defender" i...

How to Eat for the Environment 09.12.2024

It's food season, also known as the holidays! And what you choose to put on your plate actually has an impact on the world around you. Agriculture is not only big business across the Midwest, it is also a major source of water pollution in Wisconsin and a major and growing source greenhouse gas emissions. But how do you make it better? In this episode, Amy talks with Kathryn (Kata) Young, Natural...

What Trump 2.0 means for our environment 10.11.2024

What does a new, better-prepared Trump Administration mean for the water we drink, the air we breathe, the safety of our food, our climate? We know a long list of federal environmental protections and programs will be rolled back or dismantled during the next presidential administration. We're talking about erasing new standards for toxic PFAS chemicals in our drinking water, pulling out of the Pa...

Neurotoxins On Our Plates 13.10.2024

For the past 25 years, we've been putting neurotoxins on our food. Neonicotinoids are potent chemicals that attack the central nervous systems of insects. Not only are they widely used on our food and in our soil, they're showing up in our drinking water in Wisconsin. And that leads to a big question -- what do they do to us? In this episode, Amy uncovers the truth about neonicotinoids with expert...

A Case for Optimism: The energy transition we need, and what's standing in the way 16.09.2024

What's it going to take to get Wisconsin to 100% clean energy? If you listen to the state's biggest power companies, it's more methane gas. Wisconsin is on the verge of an expensive gas construction boom if utilities like We Energies in Alliant Energy have their way. But what about wind and solar? Is it possible for Wisconsin to finally trade in fossil fuels for clean energy right now? Amy talks w...

All the Money in the World: The cost of removing PFAS from our environment 18.08.2024

New research reveals how much it would cost to remove toxic PFAS 'forever' chemicals from the environment at the same rate we're currently producing and using them. Spoiler alert: we don't have enough money in the world . Hear from the researcher behind the study who says it should inspire optimism not hopelessness in the face of our growing PFAS problem.   Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Ali Ling, P...

Supreme Court Power Grab 08.07.2024

  What keeps you safe -- when you drink water, take medicine, get on an airplane, or take out a loan? It's often a government agency charged with implementing our health, safety and consumer protection laws. But recent rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court have cast a long shadow. Legal experts say the rulings point to a Court that is actively working to unravel longstanding protections and policies,...

Who Are the Science Moms? 02.06.2024

How do you get people to start paying attention to the urgency of climate change? Just like the name says, Science Moms is a growing non-partisan group of scientists and mothers who are spreading the word about our climate and joining forces to demand change from our leaders. Amy talks with UW Madison professor Dr. Tracey Holloway, who is a member of Science Moms. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Trac...

Three Cheers for Climate Beer! 10.05.2024

What if there was a grain that didn't have to be replanted every year? One with deep roots that stay in the soil, trap carbon, prevent erosion, filter water. Kernza – the world's first perennial grain crop – could be a game changer when it comes to sustainable food production and using our land to help fight climate change. But the big question: does is make a good beer? In this episode, Amy heads...

No Mow May: Does it work? 27.04.2024

No Mow May is here, but does it really make a difference in the battle to save our bees and butterflies? Amy walks through a typical Wisconsin yard with pollinator expert Elizabeth Braatz. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Elizabeth Braatz, Bumble Bee Brigade Coordinator and Terrestrial Insect Ecologist, Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources Background Reading:  Wisconsin Bumble Bee Brigade Saving...

Truth About Natural Gas 08.03.2024

When you think about the future of energy, do you picture you gas-fired power plants? In this episode, Amy looks at why power companies are racing to build new gas plants and what it means for the future of energy bills, our health and our climate. We Energies, the largest power company in Wisconsin, recently announced plans to transition two major power plants from coal to natural gas, build two...

Last Line of Defense: Battle over Wisconsin Gas Plant intensifies 23.01.2024

Wisconsin's Public Service Commission approved a large methane gas plant four years ago. The site: a bluff overlooking the Nemadji River near the Minnesota border in Superior.  At ​ the ​ time, ​ Superior's ​ city ​ council ​ unanimously ​ supported ​ the ​ project. ​ But ​ it ​ didn't ​ take ​ long ​ for ​ opinions ​ to ​ change.  In this episode, Amy talks with ​S uperior C ity ​Councilor  ​ Jen...

A Toast to 1939 20.12.2023

1939. It's the year researchers at the University of Wisconsin developed a hearty red corn that could tolerate Wisconsin winters and feed the state's dairy cows. Before long, farms all over the state were sending trainloads of their ruby red corn to feed livestock across the country. But it didn't last. The 1970s ushered in genetically modified corn with enormous yields and out went Wisconsin's ho...

Health Harms of 'Forever Chemicals' 14.11.2023

It's no exaggeration to say PFAS 'forever chemicals' are everywhere. Some states have found PFAS tainting milk supplies and contaminating crops. What are the consequences of population-wide exposure to these toxic chemicals? Amy talks with Clean Wisconsin Science Program Director Dr. Paul Mathewson about the latest research. Host: Amy Barrilleaux Guest : Dr. Paul Mathewson, Science Program Directo...

Uncovering Air Pollution 19.10.2023

How do you know if the air you breathe is safe? It often depends on where you live--not just what town or city, but what neighborhood, what street. In this episode, Amy talks with Langston Verdin, founder of MKE Fresh Air Collective, a community-led air quality monitoring project in Milwaukee. Hear what he's been finding out about the air we breathe and what it could mean for our health.  One of t...

Wisconsin's Vanishing Bee 20.09.2023

Endangered Rusty Patched Bumble Bee nest discovered in Milwaukee County Before the 1990s, they were everywhere in Wisconsin and beyond. Native Rusty Patched Bumblebees nested and foraged across 28 states and parts of Canada. Then the population hit a sudden, rapid decline. By 2017, the Rusty Patched Bumble Bee had become so scarce it was the first bee listed as a federally endangered species. In t...

Suppressing Solar? Alliant Energy, MG&E target home solar in rate plans 05.09.2023

It feels like momentum is growing behind rooftop solar in Wisconsin. Federal tax incentives from the Inflation Reduction Act, Focus on Energy rebates, and falling prices could finally push us out of the bottom half of states when it comes to home solar. Except some utilities in Wisconsin appear to be pushing back.   In this episode, a look plans from MG&E and Alliant Energy that could slow adoptio...

Tainted Water: Dairy lobby sues Wisconsin over water protections 24.08.2023

Beach closures, fish kills, green lakes. They are unfortunate signs of summer in Wisconsin. A big reason: untreated animal waste. Large dairies can produce as much waste as a small city. It's not only hard to deal with, it's dangerous if it gets into our water. Animal manure is one of the biggest sources of water pollution in Wisconsin. Now, some of Wisconsin's largest dairies are suing the state,...

Farming the Sun: WI Farmers Find a Lifeline in Solar 30.07.2023

It's no secret, Wisconsin has been rapidly losing its small family farms, and with them, a way of life that's defined much of our state for more than a century. But there is a lifeline coming. About 30 miles outside of Lake Geneva, Amy meets Jay Wendt to take a long walk on a farm that's been in his wife's family for decades. These days, the family is joining farmers across Wisconsin who are choos...

The Disinformation Game 12.06.2023

Don't believe everything you read on Facebook. Everybody knows that, but somehow misinformation still spreads like wildfire on social media, especially when it comes to climate change and clean energy like wind and solar. A sea of misinformation is getting in the way of badly-needed clean energy projects. Where are the false claims coming from, and why do people believe them? In this episode, what...

Confronting a Clean Energy Backlash 17.05.2023

Some rural communities in Wisconsin are pushing back against wind & solar, but it doesn't have to be that way. Find out how you can help stop a clean energy backlash. To reach our climate goals, Wisconsin needs to build one major wind project and three to four large solar farms every year for the next few decades. But a wave of pushback could be coming. Some Wisconsin communities are working to pa...

I'll drink to that! New Glarus Brewing Captures its Carbon 21.04.2023

On a hilltop in southern Wisconsin, a small brewery, long famous for its beer, is making headlines for a very different reason. Since last fall, New Glarus Brewing has been capturing more than 330 pounds of carbon dioxide (a bi-product of beer making) every hour of operation and reusing it. Join co-founder and master brewer Dan Carey for a tour. Host:   Amy Barrilleaux Guest: Dan Carey, co-founder...

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