The Well

The Deconstruction Zone

Religion EN ↓ 123 episodes

In the Deconstruction Zone, Danny Lybarger, and Sadie Murbarger explore and navigate the gray areas that come with following Jesus, while also unlearning and rethinking what they were taught about him. Join in for lots of laughter and processing of big topics and our own stories. Whether you are currently deconstructing and want to feel like you’re not alone or want to understand where deconstructers are coming from, we hope this space will be one where we can all process and embrace the journey.

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The Well

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Religion

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www.thewell636.org

Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Ep.47: Was Joseph an a-hole or a hero of faith? 16.05.2023

Whenever we read the bible we take it from our vantage point. Looking at the same story doesn't mean we all come to the same outcome. This week Emily and Danny check in, take emails and unpack the nuance of our unique perspectives when reading the bible.

Ep.46: Emily checks out a Unitarian Universalist Church 09.05.2023

This week Emily talks about her exploration of other faith traditions in the midst of her own deconstruction of what she knows about the Christian faith.

Ep.45: Jesus doesn't understand Periods 02.05.2023

This week we unpack Emily getting called to the principal's office (again), and Emily's return to a PCA wedding, and how Jesus doesn't understand periods.

Ep.44: Original Sin or Original Friendship? 25.04.2023

This week Emily and Danny check in, briefly tackle the topic of original sin, take some emails, and end with some killer recommendations. You won't want to miss this one... it gets juicy.

Ep.43: Pickle shots for Jesus 18.04.2023

Emily and Danny take a new format for this week's episode of the DZ. Let us know your thoughts! Linktree: https://linktr.ee/deconstructionzonepod Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/deconstructionzonepod?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Merch: https://the-deconstruction-zone-merch.creator-spring.com/listing/you-belong-october-2022

Ep.42: The DZ goes live at The University of Mount Union. 11.04.2023

This week we have a unique episode of The Deconstruction Zone as Danny & Emily travel to The University of Mount Union for their One Voice Speaker Series. Not only do these two chat about Deconstruction, but they also take some live Q&A from students that, at times can get a little bit spicy! You for sure want to give this weeks episode a listen!

Ep.41: Whole Assing Your Spirituality 04.04.2023

What does it mean to half-ass your faith? Can you? If so, what does it look like to whole-ass it? Find out this week with Emily and Danny on The Deconstruction Zone.

Ep.40: An Interview with Author Marla Taviano 28.03.2023

This week Danny sits down with author Marla Taviano to chat about her experience with life, faith, and deconstruction. You can learn more about Marla and her work on Instagram by following either: @WhiteGirlLearning or @MarlaTaviano.

Ep.39: Jesus, Lover of Dirtbags 21.03.2023

With Emily out with a 101 fever, Danny and Dustin take some time to chat about Jesus' passion for the dirtbags of the world. 

Ep.38: TikTok Religions, Exposure Therapy & Sour Patch Kids 14.03.2023

This week Emily and Danny talk about a new TikTok religion called Aluna (a low-stakes religion where everything is optional). Here's the question for today: what are we missing out on by embracing an utterly optional faith?) Looking to dive deeper into The Deconstruction Zone community? Get more exclusive DZ content on Patreon: patreon.com/deconstructionzonepod

Ep.37: Why are we doing this podcast? 07.03.2023

We are 37 weeks into The Deconstruction Zone. This week Danny drills down and asks Emily some tough questions about where she is, how she got there, and where she hopes to be. 

Ep.36: Why Hasn't Emily Fully Embraced Atheism? 28.02.2023

Danny thinks Emily has one foot in the atheist camp and one in the Christian camp. This week they discuss why Emily is where she is, how she got there, and dip a toe into where she hopes to be.

Ep.35: Engaging With The Church When You Don't Know What You Believe 21.02.2023

In the midst of deconstruction, it's hard to know when to step in and when to step back. This week Emily and Danny discuss the process of serving, engaging, and participating in the life of the church while in the midst of your deconstruction.

BONUS CONTENT! 16.02.2023

BIG NEWS ALERT! The Deconstruction Zone just launched our own Patreon! On the DZ Patreon, you will find two ways to engage - either as a builder or an excavator. Both options come with their own level of DZ perks! BUT for our Excavators, you will gain access to live events, happy hours, merch discounts, and, best of all... a SECOND BONUS PODCAST MADE EXCLUSIVELY FOR YOU!!!! For more info on how to...

Ep.34: How to handle people trying to save you 14.02.2023

This week Emily and Danny discuss their personal interactions with evangelical Christians trying to save their souls. If you've had a similar situation, you'll deeply resonate with this week's episode. 

Ep.33: Listener Takeover! 07.02.2023

This week Emily and Danny unpack your questions! This kind of episode will happen again - so if you have things to share, here are the best venues: VOICE MESSAGE: Anchor Message: https://anchor.fm/deconstructionzone/message DMs: Danny IG: Danny_Lybarger Emily IG: Emily_Zell

Ep.32: The Decolonization of Deconstruction 31.01.2023

This week Danny and Emily are joined by Carlos Fernandez of the Deconstruct Everything Podcast. These three share an honest conversation about deconstruction, losing faith in the church, colonization, race, and more. You won't regret tuning in this week for sure. 

Ep.31: Emily & The Dirty Rotten Church Kids 24.01.2023

This week Emily sits down and chats with one of the creators of The Dirty Rotton Church Kids. Deconstruction, humor, antics... it's all here... you won't want to miss it!

Ep.30: The Slippery Slope 17.01.2023

This week Danny and Emily unpack the role of questions, doubts, and certainty within the journey of deconstruction. Is doubt productive, or is it a slippery slope to hell? Listen and let us know what you think! 

Ep.29: Triple D: Danny, Divorce & Deconstruction 10.01.2023

This week Emily turns the table on Danny and asks him to unpack how his divorce impacted him as a pastor. 

Ep.28: Emily isn't a Christian Anymore 03.01.2023

This week Dustin hops from behind the camera and joins Emily and Danny for a year-one recap of The Deconstruction Zone. They unpack some of the behind-the-scenes conversations that have led to our on-camera conversation. This week's topic... is Emily still a Chrisitan?

Ep.27: Is God an apathetic A-hole? 27.12.2022

What we think about God can deeply influence how we experience God. Do we think God is apathetic? Or is God inherently personal? Maybe God sits somewhere in the middle? This week Emily and Danny share a pretty honest conversation about where God is in the crap and work towards reflecting on their own relationships with God. 

Ep.26: Deconstruction & Attachment Theory w/ Krispin Mayfield 20.12.2022

This week Emily is joined by special guest Krispin Mayfield, an Oregon-based Licensed Professional Counselor, with advanced training in attachment-based therapy. Together these two dive deep into the depths of the psychology of what makes deconstruction so difficult, while also processing their personal emotions about where they currently sit in their own deconstruction. For more information about...

Ep.25: The 5 stages of Grief in Deconstruction 13.12.2022

Deconstruction does not come without some level of grieving and loss. Whether it's friends, families, churches, or certainty - we all likely are grieving the loss of something or someone. This week Emily and Danny walk through each step as they relate to the deconstruction journey.

Ep.24: All My Evangelical Friends Think I'm Going to Hell 06.12.2022

This week Emily processes the misguided help that often comes from her former church friends and family. How do you handle when those who used to be closest to you now think you're on a one-way path to hell? It's a difficult path and conversation, but Danny and Emily try their best to process in real-time. 

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