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The Deconstruction Zone

Religion EN ↓ 123 episodes

In the Deconstruction Zone, Danny Lybarger, and Sadie Murbarger explore and navigate the gray areas that come with following Jesus, while also unlearning and rethinking what they were taught about him. Join in for lots of laughter and processing of big topics and our own stories. Whether you are currently deconstructing and want to feel like you’re not alone or want to understand where deconstructers are coming from, we hope this space will be one where we can all process and embrace the journey.

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The Well

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Religion

Podcast website

www.thewell636.org

Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Ep.97: Dam those Beavers 23.07.2024

This week, Danny, JT, and Kyle help Sadie prepare for her upcoming sermon at The Well, as they unpack the topic of ecological justice and stewardship.

Ep.96: Liberal Babbel 16.07.2024

Dark comedy, liberal Babbel, and pancake handholds. A lot will be covered for sure!

Ep.95: A Good Ol' Summer Beach Off 09.07.2024

This week, the new DZ begins! Join Danny, Sadie, Kyle & JT for their first of many, unhinged roundtable discussions!

Ep.94: Our Villain Origin Story 02.07.2024

We all have origin stories - and depending on who you talk to - it might make you a hero or a villain! This week Danny takes a break, and Sadie is joined by J.T. for this super interesting episode of the DZ!

Ep.93: Honey I Deconstructed The Kids! 25.06.2024

This week Sadie and Danny dive into the wide topic of parenting and deconstruction. It's worth a listen whether you're a parent, kid, grandparent, or fun uncle.

Ep.92: What if church becomes too painful? 18.06.2024

This week, Danny and Sadie explore what happens when the pain of church feels too heavy.

Ep.91: Are Megachurches Evil? 11.06.2024

Join Danny and Sadie, and they have a spirited discussion on the value, issues, and nature of small, medium, and mega-churches across the country.

Ep.90: Pastors Are People Too! 04.06.2024

This week, Danny and Sadie unpack the burden of pastoral leadership and boundaries and answer the question, "Should Christians [and Christian leaders] have boundaries at all?"

Ep.89: The Blind Leading The Blind 28.05.2024

This week, Danny and Sadie explore the nuanced perspective around the prism of deconstruction. Both Danny and Sadie have deconstructed before becoming pastors (and have since as well!), but now they are looking at this conversation from a different vantage point. This week, they'll explore the importance of perspective and nuance in understanding deconstruction's greater meaning, impact, a...

Ep.88: A New Journey Begins 21.05.2024

The Deconstruction Zone is officially back in action, joined by one familiar face, and one new(ish) one! For this next season of The DZ Danny will be joined by Sadie Murbarger as his new co-host! Make sure you check it out!

Ep. 87: DZ + PPP Crossover 14.05.2024

This week, Danny and the fellas from The Progressive Pastor Podcast chat about life, faith, Christian lingo, and deconstruction. Check it out!

Ep.86: A Conversation with Colby Martin on Inclusion 28.02.2024

Check out our conversation with author, pastor, and speaker Colby Martin! Colby wrote Unclobber and The Shift, two books designed to help individuals better understand the bible, faith, and how to move from closed, to inclusive theology. Listen now and enjoy!

Ep.85: The Progressive Pastor Podcast Crossover 21.02.2024

This week Danny is joined by Kyle and J.T. from the new Progressive Pastor Podcast. Today they'll chat about the head, the heart, and their blindspots in deconstruction. Give it a listen now!

Ep.84: Should I Grow Where I'm Planted? 07.02.2024

This week Danny explores a listener's question about whether to say where she's in ministry, or go somewhere else? Many of us wrestle with the same things in faith. Whether has a vocation, or follower of Jesus. Regardless of how we get there - it's a good question to explore! Let's all dive in together on this week's episode of the DZ!

Ep.83: Deconstructing Pentecostalism 23.01.2024

This week Emily is joined by a friend of the pod, Austin Lucas. Together they unpack his unique upbringing and deconstruction process and its connection to the Pentecostal church.

Ep.82: What's heavier: Good or Evil? 16.01.2024

This week Danny and Emily have a quick episode where they dip a toe into the concept of good, evil, and morality. Next week we have a deeper dive into morality - and we want to hear from you! Email Danny at danny@thewell636.org with your thoughts and questions about morality (or any future topic ideas!).

Ep.81: Cry Night at YoungLife Camp 10.01.2024

This week on the DZ Emily and Danny explore the complexity of emotion, cults, Christian camp, and religion as a whole.

Ep.80: 2023 DZ Wrapped 02.01.2024

Lets take a look back at the year behind us and examine all the good, bad and ugly that came with it!

Ep.79: Are there any unforgivable sins? 26.12.2023

This week Emily and Danny explore how far inclusion extends and ask the question, can you lose your seat at the table?

Ep.78: Is Jesus a Narcissist? 19.12.2023

Sorry about the sound quality - we have a few issues, but this is a one-week issue. Also, the longer you listen, the better it sounds! Now to the topic: This week Emily raises the question, is Jesus a narcissist? If he's only a man, maybe? If he's also 100% God, Danny doesn't think it's possible. What do you think? Listen and drop your thoughts in the comments now!

Ep.77: Do Our Beliefs Impact Others 12.12.2023

As an inclusive pastor, Danny is often told that "the blood of those he leads astray is on his hands." Whether you're a pastor, or not-religious at all - or somewhere in between - we likely all ponder the impact of our beliefs on others. This week Dustin and Danny unpack this and more!

Ep.76: Deconstructing Church Burnout 05.12.2023

Have you been burnt out on Jesus & the Church? This week Dustin and Danny explore some of their experiences with that, and other thoughts on organized religion.

Ep.75: Deconstructing Spiritual Warfare 28.11.2023

Do you believe in spiritual warfare? Is it real? How do we handle it in our world today?

Ep.74: Emily Zell From The Well is Going to Hell 21.11.2023

This week Emily and Danny take an episode to unpack some questions from Instagram! After listening, make sure you take a moment and answer the poll on Spotify and leave us what questions you have and topics you'd like covered in the episodes to come!

Ep. 73: What is Indoctrination? 14.11.2023

Let’s chat about indoctrination! What is is? Is it inherently bad? Is everyone kind of doing it? This and more will be unpacked on this weeks episode of The Deconstruction Zone! 

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