The Ringer
The Dave Chang Show
Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.
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Episodes
DCS Lab: Schnitzel Take 2 09.04.2026 46:52
Dave wasn't thrilled with the results of his last take on schnitzel with a salsa-seca crust, so it's time to revise. This time, Dave takes schnitzel inspired by a Los Angeles restaurant and makes it even more Los Angeles-inspired by making it gluten-free. He also makes a delicious lemon puree as a pairing, as well as crispy cabbage, as one might see with a tonkatsu. Dave makes a bulldog sauce as w...
Tteok Mandu Guk, Traitors, and Being Korean American Today with Eric Nam 06.04.2026 1:09:33
It's a steaming hot day, but Dave makes a celebratory dish of tteok mandu guk, a Korean rice cake and dumpling soup, for his guest, singer and actor Eric Nam. They discuss being Korean American today and how much has changed since they were young, their Korean language proficiency, and, of course, Eric's recent stint on Traitors. Dave and Eric talk about their favorite Korean foods, how great banc...
Braised Tofu, A5 Wagyu Steak, Aging, and Laughter with Joel McHale 02.04.2026 1:10:51
Dave cooks a protein-focused dish for a "master of meat": actor, comedian, & host Joel McHale...but Dave doesn't cook red meat like Joel may be used to. After having some of Dave's delicious Wu's Garden-inspired braised tofu, Joel hops (literally) into the kitchen to make a gorgeous Miyazaki A5 wagyu steak. Amongst the cooking, Dave and Joel debate how often you should eat meat, talk about getting...
Hot and Sour Egg Drop Soup, Cooking with Lemons, and Iterating on Dishes with Marc Johnson 30.03.2026 1:02:40
Dave completes his Greek avgolemono-to-Chinese sour egg drop soup journey with a final iteration of lemony chicken soup. He makes it for a friend of the show, culinary consultant on Dinner Time Live, Marc Johnson. Marc and Dave talk about the process of getting a dish from its initial to its final version, how they met, Marc's career path, and Marc's recent marathon. They also compare their differ...
DCS Creative Lab: Sour Egg Drop Soup and Tteok Mandu Guk 26.03.2026 51:39
In this DCS Creative Lab session, Dave tests two dishes that will make their way to the counter soon for future guests. Dave further iterates on a dish he served to Chris Bianco, the Greek lemon-and-chicken-based avgolemono. Now, he's taking it to China for a version of sour egg drop soup. Dave also pivots a dish to an impromptu tteok mandu guk, a Korean rice cake and dumpling soup. How will these...
Avgolemono, Chicken and Rice, and Caesar Salad With Chris Bianco 23.03.2026 45:28
Dave tries his hand at a Greek dish, avgolemono, and turns it into 3 dishes for a surprise drop-in guest, chef-owner of BIANCO restaurants, Chris Bianco. They talk about pressure cookers, the ultimate Italian soups, and lemon-forward food, amongst other topics. Dave finishes with an idea to take this dish from Greece to another country in a future episode. Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizz...
DCS Creative Lab: Braised Tofu and Schnitzel 19.03.2026 56:01
On this DCS Creative Lab, Dave tests dishes that might make their way to the counter soon for future guests. He tests out a braised tofu dish that he plans to serve to a big carnivore. Dave also tests out a chicken schnitzel based on an L.A. hot spot, but with his own salsa-seca-inspired twist. Find out how each dish turns out, and tune in to upcoming episodes to see how he changed and improved th...
The Best French Fries at Home, New Mexico Green Chile Stew, and Food Science With Chef Chris Young 16.03.2026 1:13:49
Dave makes a version of New Mexico green chile stew for his friend, chef and scientist Chris Young. Chris also walks Dave through how to make the best french fries at home—from the freezer! Dave and Chris talk about their mindsets regarding the intersection of food and science, what they look for in restaurants now that they're older, and taking creative risks. Learn more about Chris Young Cooks:...
Oxtails, "Chicken 66," and Science With Krishna Choudhary, PhD, and Lester Nare of the From First Principles Podcast 12.03.2026 1:30:26
Dave makes Jamaican oxtails and "Chicken 66," an amalgamation of Chicken 65 and chilli chicken, for two smart guests: Lester Nare and physicist Krishna Choudhary, cohosts of one of his favorite podcasts, From First Principles. They talk about how they began their journeys in science, formed a friendship, and found a podcast format that works for both them and the layperson listener. They also disc...
Succotash Meets Spätzle, Doing Media as a Chef, and Dave's Favorite Chili 09.03.2026 57:08
Dave talks about his first experiences with TV and media as a chef and how that indirectly led to Lucky Peach. Dave then MacGyver's off-the-cuff, making a dish of succotash and spätzle, and inadvertently finding a cultural link between them and Brunswick stew. He finishes by answering an Ask Dave about his favorite chili pepper. Learn more about Fallow UK: https://fallowrestaurant.com/ Watch our...
Dave's Trip to Paris, Great Meals He Had, and Cooking from Scratch 05.03.2026 50:13
Dave has returned from a lovely trip to Paris and has plenty to say about it. He talks about where he ate, such as the incredible Maison Sota, which he thinks deserves more praise, and the great Bruno Verjus, with Bruno's unique story. Dave also discusses where he didn't get to eat, but would love to support. Dave also talks about how Paris is changing before he answers an Ask Dave about cooking f...
Italian Sunday Dinner, Betting, and Inappropriate Dinner Conversations With Cousin Sal 02.03.2026 57:32
Dave makes an Italian Sunday dinner of braciola and red sauce for "Cousin Sal" Iacono, sports gambling enthusiast and prankster. Dave also surprises Sal with two dishes that Dave didn't make, including his favorite sandwich in Los Angeles. The duo discusses a buffet's worth of topics, from GLP-1s to sandwiches, sports betting to why Vegas is struggling, and hot dog–eating contests. They finish wit...
Chicken Divan, Being Curious, and Meaningful Dishes With Cord Jefferson 26.02.2026 1:08:01
Dave makes an incredibly unlikely dish for him to make: a casserole. Dave has Oscar and Emmy-winning writer/director Cord Jefferson as his guest and makes chicken divan to try to bring him back to his childhood. The duo talk their recent trip to Las Vegas together, Cord's unusual route to where he is today, and their philosophies on failure and success. They talk about maintaining a worldly curios...
Gumbo, New Orleans, and a Pop Quiz With a Surprise Familiar Guest 23.02.2026 36:36
Dave made a special gumbo recipe for a guest ... but got a different guest than he bargained for, and one he knows very well. He and his new guest talk off the cuff about the differences between jambalaya and gumbo, discuss how New Orleans has the most distinct food culture of any U.S. city, and debate which city best represents the food of the South, all while acknowledging a lack of expertise. T...
Shabu-Shabu, the Great Chef Corey Lee and Benu, and Chris Ying 19.02.2026 1:09:53
Dave turns a solo episode into a shabu-shabu meal with our pal Chris Ying. They talk about the beauty of dishes like shabu-shabu, whether they like fish balls, and how Dave makes a delicious sauce for the dish. The duo then talks about Dave's recent trip to San Francisco, Chef Corey Lee and his restaurants, and both the admiration and ire Corey causes in Dave... for being so dang good. Learn more...
Breakfast Burritos, Clay Pot Rice, Filming Food, and Finding a New Angle With David Ma 12.02.2026 1:02:10
Dave has director and filmmaker David Ma in the studio, who is known for his amazing work with food on-screen. Dave makes an unusual pairing of delicious dishes for David: a breakfast burrito and clay pot rice. See if he can nail them both ... or neither? The duo discusses how David Ma made the leap from advertising to filmmaking, as well as how he innovated his personal style of shooting food. Th...
Dried Squid: The Next Big Thing (After the Next Big Thing) 09.02.2026 29:22
Dave makes a quick snack that you might see more and more often in the coming years: dried squid. He talks about the rising amount of cephalopods in the ocean, discusses the specific umami and texture of squid, and ponders whether it might be coming to more and more grocery store shelves near you. He also answers an Ask Dave about London eating and general dining strategy when on a short trip in a...
Chinese Chicken Salad and Inappropriate Dinner Conversations With Chris Ying and David Meyer 05.02.2026 56:04
Dave is joined by friend of the show and host of Recipe Club Chris Ying and producer (young) David Meyer. Dave serves a Chinese chicken salad and some leftover jangjorim. Then the trio dives into some real Inappropriate Dinner Conversations in a new game version that reveals a lot about the three contestants. Get a copy of Jacob Soboroff's book 'Firestorm': https://www.harpercollins.com/products/f...
Jangjorim, Balance, and a Dream Last Meal Rotation 02.02.2026 56:12
Dave cooks jangjorim, a Korean braised dish usually served as a side, but that Dave thinks could be an entree and a star. He also discusses how to know when rice is properly washed, as well as the difference between mu radish and daikon (amongst other Korean and Japanese foods). Dave finishes the episode by answering an Ask Dave about who he would want as company for his dream last meal and his...
Potato Jeon, or Which Foods Hold Value to Us 29.01.2026 42:54
Dave makes a delicious, two-ingredient dish that he hasn't had since he was a child: potato jeon. Along the way, he makes a second unusual potato dish that his grandmother loved, talks about both of his grandmothers, and reflects on the value we place on certain foods—and how much the value is shaped by our personal experiences. Dave closes with an Ask Dave about when servers don't write down your...
Dry-Aged vs. Wet-Aged Steak, "The Secret," and the American Chef Pantheon With Bill Simmons 26.01.2026 1:27:59
Dave is joined by the Podfather himself, the founder and CEO of The Ringer, Bill Simmons. Dave makes steaks that challenge Bill's wet-aged vs. dry-aged opinions, and then they discuss his "secret to basketball," which applies to much more than just sports—and explains Bill's unique ability to find and foster talent, as well as predict future trends. They finish with a discussion of the top five Am...
The Los Angeles Fires, Lettuce Cup Memories, and New York vs. L.A. With Jacob Soboroff 22.01.2026 1:02:28
Dave is joined by Jacob Soboroff, MS Now senior correspondent and author of the book 'Firestorm.' Dave makes a lettuce cup dish that takes Jacob back to his past, and then they discuss the Los Angeles fires, which are the subject of Jacob's new book, as well as his personal experiences having grown up in the area. They finish with a MOIF comparing Los Angeles and New York in myriad ways. Get your...
Tteokbokki Three Ways and Soft-Chewy Texture 15.01.2026 48:17
Dave makes tteokbokki, a classic and delicious Korean street food, three different ways. He talks about the genius of how the dish is served, how gnocchi may have opened a pathway to tteok acceptance in America, and his love for soft-chewy texture, with hopes it might someday be as beloved by American diners as it is by him. He also answers an Ask Dave about his "broke chef" days. Learn more about...
Truly Tasting Through Plain White Rice 12.01.2026 34:18
Dave makes one of his favorite dishes, one he is still trying to truly taste: a plain bowl of white rice. He talks about trying to train his palate to tune out all of the noise, with plain white rice serving as his guide. Dave also asks whether the Michelin Guide, the world, or even he himself is learning and listening enough to decree what is good and worth rewarding. Who would have thought we co...
Paris and Global Food Trends With Noelle Cornelio 08.01.2026 1:00:21
Dave is joined by friend of the podcast Noelle, partner at Majordomo Media, as he cooks her a meaningful dish that she did not know he was going to make. They talk about Paris (related to the dish), changes in the global dining scene, and some necessary improvements on the rules of sharing food. Watch the last episode Noelle was featured on: https://open.spotify.com/episode/33aFBsLNTYouk1GewCjRtS?...
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