Adam Schwab and Adir Shiffman

The Contrarians with Adam and Adir

Business EN ↓ 100 episodes

Get the fearless truth about start-ups and corporate Australia from guys that give you the hard facts, not the company line. Hear Luxury Escapes co-founder Adam Schwab and Catapult Sports Exec Chairman Adir Shiffman provide the inside word on the biggest stories in business with a contrarian take from the guys who sit on both sides of the table. New episodes dropping weekly.

Author

Adam Schwab and Adir Shiffman

Category

Business

Podcast website

contrarianspod.com

Latest episode

Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Journos WFH Fail, Catapult Goes Large, Atlassian’s Horrendous Buy, Biggest Rocketships, Delta’s Upmarket Win and Adir’s Celebrity Encounter 27.10.2025

The Westpac WFH decision and why the entire business media buried the lede, the inside scoop on Catapult’s latest successful capital raise, Atlassian horror run of M&A continues, the world’s biggest rocket businesses, Delta targets the rich and wins and Adir’s latest brush with fame. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-w...

Ask Us Anything: How Does Adir READ SO MUCH? + Performance Marketing with Fixed Costs? 24.10.2025

Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

ChatGPT Jumps the Shark, VC Troubles, Xero Pay Fight, Nike Stores Gone, NRMA Uncovered and Waymo Expands 20.10.2025

The guys chat about peak ChatGPT and their bizarre p*rn fetish, Australian venture capital hits turbulence, Xero’s highly paid CEO, Nike store franchise owner collapses, Adir investigates the wonderful world of NRMA and Waymo expands its empire globally. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube...

Ask Us Anything: US H1B VISA Fee in the Tech Industry + Should I Get a Mentor? 17.10.2025

Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

AI Boom Keeps Booming, Deep Dive into Australia’s Secret $6b Business, Pokémon Cards, Board Games and Founders Behaving Badly 13.10.2025

The guys discuss the incredible AI Boom and growing risks, deep dive into Coden Technology – Australia’s lowest profile tech giant, the hidden world of Pokémon card, the big business of indy board games and founders behaving badly.   Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube fo...

Ask Us Anything: Should Women Pay LESS Tax!? + Albanese's 5% Home Deposit Scheme 10.10.2025

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Atlassian Buys Again, EA Games Breaks LBO Record, SCA Seven Governance Mess, Australia's Most Famous Family, Cameo and Catapult Hits the Big Time 06.10.2025

Atlassian does another acquisition, EA Sports goes private in the largest leveraged buy out ever, SCA Buys Seven and skips shareholder approval, who is Australia's most famous business family, the economics of Cameo and Adir Shiffman's Catapult in the ASX200. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube...

Ask Us Anything: Elon Musk the World's Richest Person? + Can we build stuff quicker in Australia? 03.10.2025

Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrarianspod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

OpenAI a $500b Ponzi? Canva Breaks Hearts, Latrobe Crunched by ASIC, Stubhub IPO, Adir’s Worst Airline and is Australia the Red Tape Capital of the World? 29.09.2025

The guys discuss Nvidia’s $100b OpenAI ‘Investment’, Canva’s Profitability Conundrum, ASIC hammers Latrobe and signals trouble for private credit, the guys argue about the Stubhub IPO, Adir’s Airline troubles and has Australia become the red tape mecca of the world. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-a...

Ask Us Anything: Did Disney Get Jimmy Kimmel Right? + Optus' Outage Issues + Executive Disfunction 26.09.2025

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ROKT Soars, Healthengine, Reebok, Vending Machines go Hi Tech, Haigh’s Branding Genius and Mike’s Travel Report 22.09.2025

The guys discuss ROKT’s soaring valuation and dual listing, med tech, Flying Turtle enters Australia, Reebok founder’s sad tale, the incredible story of Haigh’s Cholates and Mike’s travel diary. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https:...

Ask Us Anything: Should people go to uni? + Adir's FAVOURITE PC Games Ever 19.09.2025

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Oracle Flies and Ellison the World’s Richest Person (Briefly), Amex Devalues, Adir’s BOOKING.fail, ANZ’s Cashback Retreat and Adam’s Bike Stolen 15.09.2025

The guys discuss Oracle’s Ascent and Larry Ellison briefly overtaking Elon, Amex crushes frequent flier junkies (again), Adir’s torrid Booking.com experience, ANZ shuts up shop at Cashrewards and Adam a victim of crime. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: h...

Ask Us Anything: The Next Aussie Unicorn, Mac vs. PC + The GREATEST Movie Soundtracks EVER 12.09.2025

Please send questions in to https://www.thecontrarianspod.com/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@contrari...

Woolworths v Coles, Cettire Nears the Precipice, Australia’s Secret Unicorn Founder, Neurodivergent Founders and Dan’s Brush with Dictators 08.09.2025

The guys discuss Woolworth’s Big W struggles, Cettire’s horror earnings announcement, the benefits of neurodiversity, Dan Andrews’ China vacation and chat to Dave Hyman founder of Lendi, Australia’s low profile unicorn. Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our vide...

Ask Us Anything: ACCC's New Merger Mandatory Notification Thresholds, The Most Insightful Things We've Read + Our Social Media Thoughts 05.09.2025

Submit any questions you'd like the guys to answer at https://www.thecontrarianspod.com/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https:...

CSL and Reece Blame WFH for Woes, Site Minder Deep Dive, Qantas Roars, Nvidia Delivers (for now), Blackbird, Sydney v Melbourne and KPop Demon Hunters 01.09.2025

The guys destroy CSL and Reece’s WFH Excuse, Adir breaks down Site Minder’s huge surge, Qantas delivers a record result, Nvidia hits new highs but are grey skies looming, Blackbird’s Class of 2015, Sydney Outshines Dan Andrews’ Hellhole and KPop Rules. Thanks for listening! Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.l...

Ask Us Anything: When did the guys take a risk that DIDN'T pay off? + A 20th Team for the AFL!? 29.08.2025

Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cont...

CSL Breaks Up, Canva Deep Dive, Xero Gets Whacked, Step One’s Struggles, RBA Fails Again and the World’s Largest Companies 25.08.2025

The guys chat about CSL’s vaccine spin off and its share price disaster, just how good is Canva, Xero CEO’s lavish pay packet gets slammed by shareholders, Step One struggles to make a buck, RBA again fails basic understanding of how money works and Adam quizzes Adir on the world’s most valuable companies. Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks...

Ask Us Anything: Four Day Work Week? + Do Founder Political Profiles Effect Business Value? 22.08.2025

Thanks for listening! Sponsors : Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@con...

Temple & Webster Breakdown, Overpaid Lawyers, the business of Sushi, Surcharge Debacle Worsens, World’s Worst Health System and Melbourne Hellhole 18.08.2025

The guys go real deep in Temple & Webster’s full year numbers, when did lawyers become so overpaid, the Sushi wars, why the NHS became the world’s worst health system and Victoria becomes a failed state. Thanks for listening! Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-po...

Ask Us Anything: Is AI Another Bubble + Managing Sleep + Starting a Software Company Without Technical Knowledge 15.08.2025

Thanks for listening! Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/contrarianspod Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@cont...

Atlassian Gets Smashed, Behind the Scenes at the Catapult AGM, Public Servants Flying Business Class, Why Price Fixing Never Works, Lorikeet Raises and Droneshield 11.08.2025

The guys discuss Atlassian’s latest loss and share price decline, Adir explains what it’s like to hold an AGM, why public servants should (or shouldn’t) be flying at the pointy end of planes, the case against fixing prices and Aussie AI start-up Lorikeet’s big raise Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn:...

Ask Us Anything: Anti-Semitism in Business + How to Get Financially Literate + When To Set Up a Board 08.08.2025

00:00 - Anti-Semitism in the workplace 12:30 - Financial Literacy 18:30 - When to set up a board. Sponsors: Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/contrarians/ Thanks for listening! Join us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-contrarians-with-adam-and-adir-podcast Subscribe on YouTube for all our video content: https://https://www.youtube.com/@ContrariansPodcast Follow us on Ins...

Victoria Goes Full Stalin, Tesla Pivots, Figma’s Epic IPO, Google Deep Dive, Step One Hammered and Carsales’ Well Earned Victory Lap 04.08.2025

The guys discuss Victoria’s bizarre work from home edict, Tesla expands to food service, Figma’s IPO goes off, Google’s death greatly exaggerated as search comes back, Step One’s profit crunch and Carsales CEO retires a legend. Today's Sponsors: Vanta: ⁠www.vanta.com/contrarians⁠ Netwealth: ⁠www.netwealth.com.au⁠ /contrarians Microequities: https://microequities.com.au/cont...

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