Shiloh Bates

The CLO Investor Podcast

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The CLO Investor Podcast with Shiloh Bates features an in-depth look at the Collateralized Loan Obligation market. Shiloh Bates is the Chief Investment Officer at Flat Rock Global, and author of CLO Investing with an Emphasis on CLO Equity and BB Notes, discusses CLO basics, from "what is a CLO?" to "how do CLOs work?", reviews relevant topics in the CLO industry, and interviews key market players. Learn more about Flat Rock Global at FlatRockGlobal.com and follow us on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/company/flat-rock-global-llc/.

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Shiloh Bates

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Business

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Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

#12 Ted Goldthorpe, Head of Credit, BC Partners 30.09.2024

Shiloh Bates talks to Ted Goldthorpe, Head of Credit at BC Partners, about the lessons learned in his very impressive financial career. While most asset managers grow their business by launching new funds, Ted is also active in acquiring other asset managers. In this episode, Shiloh and Ted discuss the evolving landscape of private credit and business development companies. 

#11 John Timperio, Global Financial Practice Co-Head, Dechert 01.09.2024

Shiloh Bates speaks with John Timperio, the Co-Head of Dechert's Global Finance practice, about CLO regulation in this episode of The CLO Investor podcast.

#10 Allan Schmitt, Head CLO Banker, Wells Fargo 21.08.2024

Shiloh Bates talks to Allan Schmitt, Head CLO banker at Wells Fargo, about rated feeders, a new flavor of CLO (collateralized loan obligation) that is growing in popularity.

#9 Drew Sweeney, Senior Portfolio Manager, TCW 05.08.2024

In this episode of The CLO Investor Podcast, Shiloh Bates talks to Drew Sweeney, Broadly Syndicated CLO Portfolio Manager at TCW. The episode reviews complexities of loan documentation, the role of private equity firms, and the importance of thorough analysis and strategic management in the loan market.

#8 John Kerschner, Head of U.S. Securitized Products, Janus Henderson 18.07.2024

Shiloh Bates welcomes John Kerschner, Head of U.S. Securitized Products and a Portfolio Manager for JAAA at Janus Henderson, to the podcast. John explains the relative attractiveness of CLO AAAs versus other asset classes; how his team chooses CLO AAAs; and if he thinks the market should expect continued CLO tightening. 

#7 Patrick Wolfe, Head of U.S. Middle Market CLOs, BlackRock 25.06.2024

In this episode of the CLO Investor podcast, host Shiloh Bates interviews Patrick Wolfe , Senior Portfolio Manager in the Global Credit Platform and Head of U.S. Middle Market CLOs at BlackRock. They discuss the current state of the middle market loans and the risks for CLO investors in today's economy. Patrick explains the differences between middle market loans and broadly syndicated loans , hig...

#6 Paul Nikodem, CLO Researcher, Nomura Securities 19.06.2024

Shiloh Bates talks to Nomura Securities CLO Researcher Paul Nikodem in the sixth episode of The CLO Investor podcast. They discuss the process of evaluating CLO managers and also tackle the topic of declining CLO financing costs. 

#5 Tom Davidson, Managing Editor, Creditflux 28.05.2024

Shiloh Bates shares his conversation with Tom Davidson, Managing Editor of  Creditflux , in the fifth episode of  The CLO Investor.  Among other topics, Shiloh talks to Tom about CLO education, current opportunities in the CLO market, and CLO equity risk adjusted returns.

#4 Ivo Turkedjiev, Broadly Syndicated CLO Manager, New Mountain Capital 15.05.2024

In the fourth episode of The CLO Investor , Flat Rock Global CIO Shiloh Bates discusses credit investing, loan recoveries, and the path to building a successful management platform with Ivo Turkedjiev, a broadly syndicated CLO manager at New Mountain Capital.

#3 David Williams, CLO Banker, Scotia Bank 15.05.2024

In the third episode of The CLO Investor , Flat Rock Global CIO Shiloh Bates talks to Scotia Bank's David Williams, a prominent CLO (collateralized loan obligation) banker. Shiloh and David discuss CLO issuance, refis and resets, profitability, and opportunities and challenges in today's CLO Market.  

#2 Derek Russo, CLO Investor, Flat Rock Global 17.04.2024

In the second episode of  The CLO Investor , Flat Rock Global CIO Shiloh Bates discusses the CLO (collateralized loan obligation) market, CLO issuance, refis/resets, and more with colleague Derek Russo.

Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs) 101 16.04.2024

What is a CLO (Collateralized Loan Obligation)? What are the different types of CLOs? Why is the CLO market important today? Shiloh Bates is author of CLO Investing with an Emphasis on CLO Equity and BB Notes, and Chief Investment Officer of Flat Rock Global. In this first episode of The CLO Investor, Shiloh provides a primer on CLOs and CLO investing.

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