Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter
The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter
Helping Singers, Songwriters, and Indie Artists Create Leverage In the Music Business.
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Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Story Development 25.07.2025 19:17
This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to...
Ep 485: Five Qualities To Look For In A Co-Writer 22.07.2025 27:48
CLIMBer, you might be looking for co-writers, but what are you looking for IN co-writers? That can make all the difference between having a profitable relationship or a toxic one. And I'm sure which one we want you to have, so listen up! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! Abo...
Song Title Challenge #194: "Truth Is A Crime" w/ Eric Erdman 18.07.2025 42:19
Johnny & Brent welcome back hit songwriter Eric Erdman, who has been named Songwriter of the Year and Male Vocalist of the Year at the Trop Rock Music Awards. He's behind hundreds of songs, including "Stone's Throw," recorded by breakout band The Red Clay Strays. They just finished a tour with The Rolling Stones. He's a master of blending heart, hook, and honesty. We craft 5-6 different concepts f...
Ep 484: Is The End Of Labels? 15.07.2025 54:18
CLIMBers, a value shift is underway in the marketplace with artists moving equity and income away from traditional music companies (i.e., labels) and keeping it with the creators and their teams. Merck Mercuriatis, the founder of Hipgnosis, is behind this movement with a new venture that is all about artists and managers making the majority of the money rather than the labels. Mercuriadis has hund...
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Upgrading Your Titles 11.07.2025 14:41
This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to...
CLIMB Show Classics: Your Song Will NEVER Be Heard Without This! 08.07.2025 36:28
CLIMBer, it's not enough to write your song. You need to resolve your song, or it's never going to get heard. What's that mean, and why is it hugely important for your songwriting career? We're going to tell you today on The CLIMB, so listen up! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to...
Song Title Challenge #193: "Slow News Day" w/ Bill DiLuigi 04.07.2025 37:46
Johnny & Brent welcome songwriter, Bill DiLuigi, who has hit songs recorded in Country, Christian Americana, and film and TV, with cuts by everyone from rock icon Bonnie Tyler to Lonestar's Richie McDonald. Together, they tackle the title, "Slow News Day," sent in by CLIMBer, Joe Bigalke. CONNECT WITH Bill DiLuigi HERE: Facebook: @BillDiluigi Instagram: @BillDiLuigi YouTube: @billdiluigi9662 Websi...
Ep 482: Interview w/ Hit Songwriter & Author Sandy Knox 01.07.2025 1:12:20
Johnny & Brent welcome hit songwriter, Sandy Knox, who has written songs for icons from Reba McEntire and Dolly Parton to Neil Diamond to Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, and Martine McBride, among others. She served on the board of NERIS, NSAI, which we love, and the Music Health Alliance, which we love. Sandy has created the first audiobook/musical called Weighting, which we'll be discussing! T...
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Sleeping Your Way To The Top 27.06.2025 16:36
This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to...
Ep 481: 28 Years From Start To Chart: A Song's Journey 24.06.2025 40:24
CLIMBer, I just had a song hit number one, 28 years after I started writing it! Yeah, it's been a journey. And there are some lessons I want to pull from this story that will inspire you and equip you for your songwriting journey. So listen up. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to w...
Song Title Challenge #192: "Streetlight Silhouettes" w/ Chelsey Stallings 20.06.2025 44:57
Johnny & Brent welcome O.G. CLIMBer, Chelsey Stallings, a singer-songwriter from Utah, now living in Nashville. Chelsey is releasing amazing original music, has climbed to writing in rooms with hit songwriters, has opened for artists like Phil Vassar and Darryl Worley, and has created a TikTok and Instagram following of over 300,000! Together, they cook up 5-6 different conceptual angles for writi...
Ep 480: Streaming Isn't Broken, But Maybe You Are... 17.06.2025 41:16
CLIMBer, how many times in the last 30 days have you privately or publicly disparaged streaming platforms for how they pay? What goes on in your head with that? Well, streaming isn't broken, but maybe you are...So, take a deep breath. This one may sting a little. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business...
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Mind The Melody 13.06.2025 14:27
This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to...
Ep 479: Lessons From Recent Co-Writes 10.06.2025 40:18
CLIMBer, you know I'm a songwriter. I've had some recent co-writes, and there are some important lessons that I've learned and want to share with you. I have some great takeaways that'll help you have a better co-writing experience, more wins and less fails. That's it. Let's go. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In Th...
Song Title Challenge #191: "Running Out Of Luck" w/ Brian Davis 06.06.2025 32:10
Johnny & Brent welcome hit songwriter, Brian Davis (Jason Aldean, Brantley Gilbert, Tyler Farr, Lee Brice, Gretchen Wilson) to The Challenge, where they craft 5-6 different conceptual angles to writing a song titled "Running Out Of Luck." If you want to write like a pro, you need to think like a pro - and these episodes help you do that! Connect with Brian Davis Here: Facebook: @BrianDavisLive Ins...
Ep 478: Do You Wanna Get Streamed Or Do You Wanna Be HEARD? 03.06.2025 53:51
CLIMBers, ALL artists want to be heard. That's why we do this. We want to reach people. But there's a difference between being streamed and being heard.... Are you conflating the two? That's what we're going to dig into today, y'all. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to helping singers, songwriters, indie artists and industry pros "Create Leverage In The Music Business." We want you to win! About t...
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: How To Stay Inspired 30.05.2025 14:09
This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to...
Ep 477: Overconfident & Underqualified: The Dunning-Kruger Effect In The Music Business 27.05.2025 52:41
CLIMBer, have you ever met somebody who thinks they're the next big thing - but they suck and they don't even know it? Well, that is the Dunning-Kruger effect at work. It's a real thing. It's all over the place, and you do NOT want to be its next victim. So today, we're diving into how overconfidence can sabotage your music career and how to avoid being that guy or girl. The C.L.I.M.B. Show is ded...
Song Title Challenge #190: "Broken Lines" with Anthony Orio 23.05.2025 37:34
Brent & Johnny welcome a longtime friend, Anthony Orio, to The Challenge, where they cook up 5-6 different conceptual angles for writing a song titled "Broken Lines," sent in by CLIMBer, Andrea Shihady. Anthony Orio is a singer/songwriter who was featured in ASCAP's Hot On The Row series, he's performed at The Grand Ole Opry, The Ryman Auditorium, The Bluebird Cafe, he and his band The Goodfellers...
Ep 476: Interview with Sanctus Real's Dustin Lolli 20.05.2025 1:11:55
Here's the thing: after multiple record deals, their greatest successes came when they WEREN'T on a label! Brent & Johnny welcome lead vocalist for the acclaimed Christian band, Sanctus Real. They are celebrated for their authentic lyrics, powerful performances, and they've earned eight number-one singles, including "Lead Me" and "My God Is Still the Same," multiple Grammy nominations, Dove Awards...
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Turn A Cliche’ Moment Into A Hit Moment 16.05.2025 14:23
This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to...
Ep 475: Interview w/ Rebecca Lynn Howard 13.05.2025 1:00:52
Rebecca Lynn Howard is a powerhouse vocalist, acclaimed songwriter, and dynamic multi-instrumentalist known for her unmistakable Appalachian twang and captivating stage presence. She burst onto the country music scene with her 2002 hit single, "Forgive." Now, after eight years, she returns with her highly anticipated new album produced by Elisha Hoffman and executive produced by country artist Lee...
CLIMB CLASSIC Song Title Challenge: "Taste Of Mercy" w/ Radney Foster 09.05.2025 45:22
Johnny & Brent welcome LEGENDARY hit songwriter, artist, and author, Radney Foster (Keith Urban, The Chicks, Brooks & Dunn, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Hootie & The Blowfish, Kenny Loggins, Los Lonely Boys, George Benson), to Song Title Challenge where they create 5-6 different conceptual angles for a song titled, "Taste Of Mercy," sent in by CLIMBer and SongwritingPro.com member, Fred Kitchen. If you...
CLIMB Classics: If You're In A Band 07.05.2025 55:09
CLIMB Classics: "If you're in a band..." this episode is a must-RE-listen! Mark Maxwell of the legendary Louisville band, The Crashers, reveals game-changing advice for anyone who wants to start a band or take their existing band to the next level. We're sharing Mark's wisdom because we want you to win. So listen up! Follow Maxwell's House Of Music to see all these tips from his viral content! Fac...
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Put Your Song On The Stage 02.05.2025 17:16
This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If you're not yet a Songwriting Pro member, NOW is a great time to start your 14-day FREE trial at SongwritingPro.com! The C.L.I.M.B. Show is dedicated to...
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