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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Google Hire is Killing ATSs, Skype is Killing Video Interviewing, Dominos is Killing Delivery Drivers 08.09.2017

The first show to follow Labor Day weekend finds the guys especially salty and feisty. They start the show with a rant about Dice that follows up one of their best interviews of the year. Then they bring it down a bit with some news from the pizza delivery space … delivery is about to get nutty and a lot of drivers are going to be unemployed. Monster has dropped a new commercial that has the guys...

Live from PracticeLink 29.08.2017

This week, the boys broadcasted live from Hinton, West Virginia at PracticeLink‘s annual corporate event. We had a great time and loved visiting West Virginia and soaking up a little southern hospitality. Much love. We covered our recent interview with Dice’s CEO and give a few opinions on what the takeaways were. There’s a lot of good advice in here for niche job boards. We look at new advertisin...

Interview with Dice’s CEO 25.08.2017

The boys were really excited to recently chat with Dice’s CEO, Mike Durney. As listeners will know, DHI, Dice’s parent, has been through an interesting year that saw the company look at strategic options for the business (a fancy way of saying, “We’re for sale”), then take the company off the market after no sale was realized. In addition to digging into that news item, Chad and Cheese dive into w...

Interview – Mark Weidick of hiQ Labs and the Case Against LinkedIn 23.08.2017

One of the hottest stories in recruitment right now is the legal battle between hiQ and LinkedIn. If you’re not familiar with the case, here’s a good summary:   A federal judge issued a huge setback for LinkedIn on Monday, ruling that LinkedIn can’t block the startup hiQ Labs from accessing public profile data. Many news outlets were calling this a test for the social media conglomerate in how muc...

Firing Squad – Vervoe 22.08.2017

Startup Vervoe faces the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad. Firing Squad is a podcast which allows a startup company to either showcase their technology, products, and solutions or just fail miserably. It’s a Shark Tank-like podcast with 37 pieces of Chad and Cheese flair. Vervoe wants to prove they can change the Recruiting Industry so they stepped up to the mic, reached down deep, and have chosen to...

eHarmony’s Elevated Careers Finally Finds a Match | LinkedIn is Building Pipelines | Facebook is for Poachers 18.08.2017

Lots going on this week. Dog days of summer be damned. EHarmony’s Elevated Careers found a buyer in this company and a little crow has to be eaten. Is it a match made in matching heaven? We’ll see. HiQ gets a ‘W’ against the big, bad LinkedIn, but this fight isn’t over by a long shot. GoodTime gets some love from Chad, but there’s not total agreement on its future and how bright it is. Is it a fea...

HR is the New PR | Ladders Gets Its TMZ On | Is VCV the Future of Recruiting? | Werk Does it Differently 11.08.2017

Another big week. The boys cover a grassroots campaign by HiQ to fight-off LinkedIn. Are you in? Indeed has gone shopping, acquiring Interviewed and taking the company into ATS territory. Can Indeed build a platform to take on Google, LinkedIn and Facebook? They sure are giving it their best shot. HR is progressively becoming a mainstay in every company’s PR efforts. As PR gets more and more compe...

LinkedIn is Out for Blood, Indeed is Dining Out and Dice is Out of Gas 07.08.2017

The summer of love rolls on, boys and girls. This week, LinkedIn is out for blood, Dice hits rock bottom and there ain’t no party like a microchipping your employee party. But first, the state of Wisconsin is losing its mind or maybe overindulging on cheese curds as one company throws a party to celebrate the microchipping of its employees. There’s even a T-shirt. Then, rural communities are being...

CareerBuilder Gets a Divorce | Employers are Microchipping Workers | JazzHR is Jazzed 28.07.2017

Giddyup kids! Episode 19 is in the books. Chad and Cheese are hot on Google Hire’s exploding interest and latest product demo. Chad breaks it down like a math problem. CareerBuilder’s 15 year marriage to Gannett ended in divorce this week. You’ll never guess who was waiting in the wings as Gannett swiped right! JazzHR got $6 million in funding. Talk about great timing, as we’re not sure they’d get...

Google Hire Officially Launches, Indeed and LinkedIn Aren’t Taking the News Sitting Down 20.07.2017

The boys are back after the 4th holiday and Chad trekking to Oregon for college visitations. And it’s a good thing, because the news was hot-and-heavy this week. Google Hire officially launched. Are the guys impressed or not? Indeed and LinkedIn were also making waves this week. In Indeed’s case, the product offerings continue to come down the pike. One of the guys is not impressed. LinkedIn, on t...

Talking Millennials, Employment Brand and Employee Assessments with the CEO of Wonderlic 14.07.2017

While Chad is on vacation in Oregon and consuming enough craft brews to hydrate a frat party, Joel Cheesman is left to hold down the fort. Listeners won't be disappointed. This week, we deliver an interview with the CEO of Wonderlic, Charlie Wonderlic. Football fans will recognize the Wonderlic name for the assessment tests they provide for the NFL during the combine. Employers will know the Wonde...

Jumping into Indeed’s Walled Garden Against Google | Canvas’ Text Recruiting | Deep Thoughts from Jobg8 10.07.2017

Still a little hungover from the 4th of July holiday, the boys dive into Indeed’s walled garden against Google, wonder if old school job board SEO is dead and drop wisdom and perspective following the Jobg8 conference. Put on your big-boy pants and buckle-up. Also, we look at Canvas and why others aren’t on the text messaging bandwagon, asking are ATS’s next. And what podcast would be complete wit...

With special guest Bill Fanning: Are you embracing or fighting Google? | Why is CareerBuilder snuggling up to Google? | Does anyone care about compliance? 30.06.2017

Where’s Cheese? Chad brings recruiting industry veteran and America’s Job Exchange GM Bill Fanning to the mic while Joel takes a much-needed vacation. Chad takes aim at Bill with questions like – What the Hell is going on in this crazy AI/Google shiny object market? Is AJE playing stubborn (like Indeed) and fighting Google or are you bringing the big G in real close? Should Careerbuilder be anxiou...

Live from Jobg8 Job Board Summit in New Orleans (There Will Be Drinks) 21.06.2017

The boys headed down the The Big Easy this week for a live podcast at the Jobg8 Job Board Summit. As usual, they weren’t so “easy” with the commentary on CareerBuilder, who is valued at $500 million, instead of the $1 billion-plus price tag originally touted. They also didn’t hold back their criticism of Beyond, who just changed their name to Nexxt. (Pretty sure some Nexxt employees in the front r...

McDonald’s Goes All-In on Snapchat | Amazon Wants to Buy Slack | Entelo Gets $20 Million 16.06.2017

What started out as a slow week certainly turned up as time passed. Entelo received $20 million in funding, and the boys discuss what’s really behind all the money flowing into A.I. Can you say “land grab”? Amazon, yes, that Amazon is rumored to be bidding on Slack to the tune of $9 billion. That’s with a “b” folks. McDonald’s is looking to hire 250,000 employees this season in the U.S. and are go...

Workey and Clustree Get Paid | TaskRabbit Grows | Kalo is ‘Badass’ | Olivia & Mya Get Competition | Recruitics Gets All Analyticky 09.06.2017

It was a busy week. Economic megatrends continue to take hold. There are more job openings than ever before, and that has invigorated the gig economy and put recruiters in a strong sellers market for many positions. TaskRabbit, where anyone who will deliver your laundry or fix your door hinge can make cash, is growing into new markets. Kalo, a Silicon Valley darling, has investment cash and hope t...

Live from TA Tech Summit – All Things Google for Jobs 01.06.2017

The boys were at TA Tech Summit in Minneapolis June 1, and did a live broadcast on all things Google … we’re talkin’ Google Cloud Jobs API, Google Hire and Google for Jobs. They even discussed ideas for what the future might look like. Special thanks to Peter Weddle and his son for having us and giving us a platform to expand the podcast listenership. As usual, visit our sponsors, because they mak...

CareerBuilder Gets a Haircut | Snapchatting Gets Someone an Internship | Indeed Strikes Back in 'Battle of the Buttons' 30.05.2017

This week, the boys discuss a big discount in the acquisition price tag for CareerBuilder based on a Reuters report. Someone actually got a job opportunity, compliments of Snapchat. Here's how. Then they revisit the garbage pile and give advice on how Talent.io might fix it's junk status. Jibe goes all-in on Google for everything and they boys debate whether that's a good thing. Should others get...

Google for Jobs Launches ... What the Hell Does Indeed.com Do Now? 19.05.2017

Oldies but a goodie! It was a big week. The boys cover Google for Jobs officially launching and ask, "What the hell does Indeed do now? Talent.io gets investment cash, but one of the guys thinks it's a hot, steaming pile of garbage. LinkedIn keep churning out the hits with new features to these two popular products. And there's a differing of opinions on the death of job boards as Chad and Cheese...

CareerBuilder’s Revenue Drop | Microsoft’s Workplace-of-the-Future is Scaring the Hell Out of Us | Google’s Virtual Reality Play | Mya Gets Funding 12.05.2017

Happy Mother’s Day Edition! This week, the boys are scared sh!#less at Microsoft’s workplace-of-the-future, Google makes a virtual reality play and disagreement ensues about its relevancy to recruitment, startup Mya’s A.I. recruitment play gets a shot of venture capital, the gig economy has ups and downs and CareerBuilder revenue is down for the quarter … queue the acquisition price discount. Enjo...

Google Testing Indeed-Killer, Dice Cuts Off Its Arm To Save Its Soul, 84 Lumber Recruitment Ads 05.05.2017

It was a big week. We finally have visual proof that Google is testing an Indeed-style job search, Ladders looks like it wants to become an online newspaper, Dice is getting rid of these sites, 84 Lumber returns with new recruitment ads (follow-ups to their controversial Super Bowl commercial) and job seekers seem to be pretty OK with this technology. Enjoy, and be sure to checkout our sponsors: A...

LinkedIn’s Future | Slack Eavesdropping | Vervoe’s Automated Interviews | Job Boards Aren’t Dead (Mostly) 28.04.2017

This week, the boy wonders discuss LinkedIn’s ongoing ubiquity in news and finally catching up to Facebook and Twitter on this one key offering, eavesdropping on employees and gauging morale via Slack, Hipchat and others, more end of the world chatter from people much smarter than you, Yik Yak and the death of  anonymity and another job boards aren’t dead story. The Chad and Cheese Podcast is prou...

DICE | Snapchat’s ‘Snapplications’ | LinkedIn | Completed | LinkedIn | Smashfly | HiringSolved 21.04.2017

This week, the boys discuss how no one apparently wants to buy DICE and its portfolio of sites and what it could mean for CareerBuilder’s reported sale. Snapchat is in the news again with “Snapplications,” a way McDonald’s is generating candidates, and DIY advertising being unveiled soon. Completed is the latest startup to get thrown onto the steaming hot pile of garbage. New York City has made it...

Google Jobs API | Glassdoor Court Case | Beamery | Teamable | Crelate | Google Hire 14.04.2017

On Episode 6, the boys bookend the episode with Google, starting a discussion about the Google Jobs API and ending with the news this week that Google Hire is set to turn the ATS market upside down … and maybe the job search market too. Glassdoor is so over the court system in Texas. Beamery, Teamable and Crelate all get funding, but which one will be the most successful? And we love on Tim Sacket...

Bloom Automation’s ‘Trimmigrants’ | Indeed | TheLadders | CareerBuilder | LinkedIn | Nymeria 03.04.2017

Chad’s really ticked off in this week’s episode, as you can tell by the “E” rating on this show. In this week’s episode of HR’s most dangerous podcast, the boys cover more automation – this time in the marijuana industry – with Bloom Automation, unlimited PTO, a more official report on CareerBuilder’s pending sale, TheLadders (who?), LinkedIn beating up underdogs and more. Enjoy and be sure to che...

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